Bangsang Moro substate in the Philippines
By bulastika
@bulastika (5966)
Philippines
July 10, 2012 10:03pm CST
I'm not from Mindanao so I guess I don't know their sentiments. But I really don't understand why do our muslim brothers in their want to have a substate of their own.
As under our constitution we all are equal. So why do they need to be a special state?
If they really want to represent their people then run for mayor, run for congress, run for governador, run for senate or even president.
If they can't win election in their turf then its only shows that they are not wanted.
How can they manage a substate when they can't even win a local election.
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3 responses
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
12 Jul 12
Well let us just say they wanted to instigate the Islamic state which is something not acceptable under our rule which practices freedom to exercise our own faith. I guess this is what most what the muslim sentiments are all about. The way they wanted is to live according to what their religion practices and under the current system we have they could not freely practice their faith because they have so many restrictions that our culture tolerates very well.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
From what I know that is what is the aim of MILF in their fight. They wanted to install a separate islamic state in the areas they are claiming to be their own. We already granted them autonomy in ARMM but they wanted to expand it and wanted more autonomy.
@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
ARMM is for MNLF. while MILF want more province to be included and they don't want autonomous type of substate. they want federal type. The difference is that in autonomous state their still using the same constitution as our constitution. While in federal state. They have their constitution under our own constitution.
In layman's term. autonomous is like employer and maid type of relation ship in which employer will give her the list of works she will do and she will do it independently while in federal type its like Father and children relationship. He is still the father but the children is some how coequal with the father also in some sense.
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@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
I don't think they are that extremist. As far as I know they only want to have their own substate like a federal government style. Like in United States that each state has its own constitution under United State Constitution. But for me. They really don't need to do that because actually if you think about it its also the same if you think about provinces. Although our provinces does not have its own constitution. They have autonomy as will.
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
11 Jul 12
I think those who are pushing for a sub state are delusional in thinking that it's the only way to get their place out of poverty. The main reason why most of the muslim areas there are poor is because of their leaders. Only the politician who sits in power get rich by sucking up all the government funding just like the Ampatuans did. The Ampatuans are not unique, other politicians do the same. I don't think a substate is the answer. if they really want a sub state then they should show the entire country that they can take care of themselves first, there's no sense in asking for substate if their own local leaders can't even take care of their own.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
14 Jul 12
for the record, it's not the entire Mindanao that's asking for a substate. There are areas in Mindanao that are first class municipalities, meaning their fiscal management is good. it's also common knowledge that Mindanao is rich in natural resources. If only managed well, the place has a lot of potential to become at par with luzon and visayas once fully developed. The people who are calling for a substate are just a minority of the minority. Muslims in general are business people that's why a lot of them are forced to do business elsewhere because of some of their muslim brethren keeps wrecking havoc in that area. Billions had been poured in that place for its development but due to corruption, most of the money ended up in the pockets of the politicians. So not until, an honest to goodness leader sits, mindanao will always be as it is for the time being.
@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
15 Jul 12
That's right. Not entire Mindanao. Only the western portion as also its included palawan as part of their territory. As their basis of territory is from the claim of Sultan of Sulu.
In business we are using our head but if our hearts believe on something we can easily close down our business to fight for it.
I'm not from Mindanao and but almost half of my relatives lives in Mindanao. Just like when we try to gain independence from U.S. they also want to have their own identity to speak of.
@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
That's right. that's why its better that our government will spend billion of dollars building mindanao. Develop it to the point that all people who live in mindanao can have a decent job. Once they have decent job their will be no problem anymore and does who still want to have an substate then I guess they must be put to jail for rebellion.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
11 Jul 12
I am from Zamboanga City and it is particularly here that they want to divide the place as they said part of it is the Bangsa Moro substate but a lot of us ZamboangueƱos are not in favor of it as we know it will do no progress.
They have this notion that this place is theirs, they have this high pride and that they think the country is unfair for them... it is sad that they think this way but all of what is happening in their place are in their own doing. Take for one Maguindanao, a lot said that poverty is high in that place even Jolo but their leaders there are the ones doing this. It is because of corruption and they take it to the whole government system.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
11 Jul 12
It's their fault anyways, their ancestors sold most lands for money until the place become mostly christian like and ruled by the philippine government. they are too late now to turn this into a substate because it is totally against the constitution of the country. It's not just them rebelling, it's probably because some government officials are selfish. not to mention they got their ground because they were handled little.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
12 Jul 12
Yup they think this place is theirs when in fact treaties were made before and this has is now owned by everyone who is here, not just theirs particularly here in Zamboanga where the Subanons were the first ones to reside not just them.. well they have pride as big as the earth sometimes.
@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
I do agree. I'm not war freak but for me the best solution to this problem is create another government agency that going to protect the right of all minorities. from Aeta, Igorot, Lumads and to our Muslims brothers. So that theirs an agency who going to stand for them if they think they been abused. And also that agency will help us to be educate on how this minorities works and things and how to understand and respect their ways also.
Because lets face it. I'm from Iloilo and I live in Manila now but when I see our Muslim brothers with their traditional dress. Its either children get scared or some will going to think they are terrorist. This is a clear sign of ignorance in our part also.