Gays and Chick-fil-A

Have those on other forums seen your point? Bad customer service is a legitimate reason to stop frequenting a place of business as is discrimination, but Chick-Fil-A doesn't do that; so any boycott of Chick-Fil-A would be based on intolerance and bigotry of Mr. Cathy's views on marriage.

Some have and some are like... "Well, I don't care because I am so intolerant that I can't handle anyone's viewpoint but my own." Maybe not those exact words, but that's the gist. Of course, the really good arguments come up when I point out that Darwin's theory is also against gays joining together for the purposes of procreation. Yeah, scientists haven't figured out a way to by-pass the whole egg meets sperm even though they have changed the delivery system. Yeah, a lot of people are shocked that there are non-religious arguments out there that have a basis in Science. But that's a side issue. BTW, even if people support a cause, such as JC Penney using Ellen, doesn't mean that people are spending their money there. In a way, it is the exact same thing as a boycott because no money is actually going to the company. So unless you are actually buying things, you aren't actually "supporting" their cause. That's the whole catch-22 of supporting a company's belief system.

Of course they would not use those words. They would never call themselves intolerant. I wonder just how effective (or is it affective) boycotts really are.

If enough pay attention or have it pointed out to them, they will see that those pointing fingers are just as guilty, if not more so, than the ones they are accusing. There's an old saying, "The guilty dog always barks."

Ever notice how certain groups in the USA are stereotyped as being persecuted and so people accept their intolerant stances more readily without questioning them?

I wonder if they believe others will side with them if they making Mr. Cathy appear intolerant. The problem in this case, though is that Mr. Cathy doesn't come across as intolerant, they do.

Yes I have. That's the reason some things need to be pointed out.

He doesn't sound like someone with a double standard. It's good to know there are those who can accept the opinions of others even if they don't agree with those opinions.

Would you say the gay community was being intolerant?

Why can't this man express his views in any forum he chooses? If a gay person gets up and tells a group that gay marriage is good and everyone has to accept it that is fine but If I get up and say gay marriage is unacceptable to me and here is why who is being inflammatory?

I take your point Bobmnu, and I agree that seemingly, we have to accept what the gay lobby say without question, while feeling unable to respond to it. However, I do feel it would be inflammatory if a head of a major corporation aired his views to the world. When you run big business, you have to consider the feelings of your clientele if you want to stay in business. Like you, I would be happy to articulate my views and defend them - I'm also against gay marriage, by the way - but if I was a CEO responsible to my employees and shareholders, I'd have to be more careful. If my personal views were seen as representative of the company I headed, it could cause a lot of grief to a lot of people.

After you read it, I'd like to know what you think.

And when Christians stood up for their rights to free speech, they were called intolerant and bigoted. Not only that, the gays tried to put Chick-Fil-A out of business just because its founder Mr. Cathy believes in traditional marriage.

So what you are saying is it is okay to stand up for your beliefs as they match a certain format? It is okay for so-called Christians to express their feelings, but it is not okay for someone who believes differently to do so? These people who call themselves Christians are the first ones that try to do way with others right to free speech, but are also the first ones to yell when someone states and opposing opinion that their rights are being violated. You cannot oppress rights for certain groups. Either everyone has the right, regardless of what it is, or no one has it. That goes for all rights. No one has tried to put Chick-fil-a out of business. Some people have just decided that they are not going to give their money to an entity that continually supports organizations that discriminate. If they were donating to a racially motivated hate group, would you be defending them? Would you defend them if they were donating money to an atheist group? Realistically, the LGBT community could not put them out of business. Even if you took the high-end percentage of people that are LGBT (10%) out of the equation it would not happen. If that were the actual percentage of people that identify as LGBT, that is 1 out of every 10 people that enter. If you take away 1 person out ten, that leaves 9 other people still buying their product. You might reduce a profit by a minuscule amount, but you are by no means going to bankrupt them. Personal views do not belong in business. There is a business in the town that I live that I will not spend money in because every year they post political signs in the business. It is not because I dont have the same views that they do. I have supported many of the same candidates/issues in the past. I just feel that a business is not the place for it.