So you want an original discussion

@p1kef1sh (45681)
July 26, 2012 1:18am CST
In her discussion my friend suggested that there were no original discussions here these days. Finding something truly original is not that difficult, but it may of course push us into a niche where others feel that they are unable to contribute. However, here goes: the word "hospital" is familiar to us all as a centre for the care of the sick. However it has its origins in the word "hospitable" and from that spawns two other words: "hostel" and "hotel". I wonder what we would have called those three things otherwise? The Germans and the Dutch call a Hospital the "sick house" for example. I wonder if my friend will respond to this? LOL.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
26 Jul 12
Many hospitals are still called "Hôtel-Dieu" in France = "God's hotel". When they were founded, they were made for poor people, and this name was a symbol of charity and hospitality.
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
26 Jul 12
That's it! What do I know of the French? this was my only visit to New Orleans to date and without mom it probably wouldn't be as much fun...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
I work in a medieval hospital that today provides sheltered accommodation for the elderly. It is a Christian community and has been since at least 1215. I am certain that hotel-dieu and our foundation are related. We still call ourselves a hospital in fact.
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• United States
27 Jul 12
I do not think that I would want to stay in a hospital that was named "God's hotel" ... it does not give me much confidence in their success rate at curing/helping people.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
26 Jul 12
I love the German words for hospital and ambulance - krankenhaus and krankenwagen. I also love how lots of words have 'fart' in them - ausfart for exit, and roundfart for roundabout. Do you think it's because the Germans eat so much meat that they have so many 'farts?' Is that an original response, do you think? I think when people ask for original discussions, they actually mean they don't want to see dozens of discussions on the same topic. Recently, that would mean the Aurora shootings, but when celebrities die, there are a raft of discussions. It's as if everyone has the same idea at the same time, and instead of checking existing discussions, they just pitch in.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Perhaps I should stick my originality up my auspuff! LOL.
• Philippines
26 Jul 12
That allusion to fart is funny hahha. I don't believe anyone would ever run out of discussions to post here or respond to. Change is one thing we have to deal our whole lives so there will always be new topics, new discussions to write about. I do the search discussion step first as I would rather reply to a previously posted discussion on the same topic I was contemplating to write even if the original post was created 5 or 6 years ago!
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
26 Jul 12
Ya know, when my mother fell and sprained her ankle in New Orleans, the bar called a taxi for us to take her to the hospital... and, being how we were very close to the French Quarter, they took us to a hospital that did have linens with "Hotel" on them... that was quite some time ago...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
There we are. The same word used in different situations. Either that or they got the laundry mixed up with a local hotel!
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
26 Jul 12
(The bar also paid for the taxi, the hospital visit and other doctor stuff once we got home. That's why they have insurance!)
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@topffer (42156)
• France
26 Jul 12
The New-Orleans hospital was named "Hôtel-Dieu", God's hotel, like many hospitals in France.
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@bhanusb (5709)
• India
26 Jul 12
We say hospital as Haspatal. 'Has' means duck. But hospital is not the dwelling place of ducks. A word has different meanings in different places. But what your friend mean to say 'original' discussion ? There is no original. Every thing of the world is always changing. No original form remains.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Now you got me wondering what you call a duck house?
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
26 Jul 12
It is hard to find something original that will appeal to the masses and get us lots of responses, therefore earning us lots of cash! If we post something original, we do seem to attract less responders, well I do anyway. Most of my discussions seem to fall into a niche where I get few responses. Whenever I post something a bit lighter that does not require much thought, I get more responses. But then I find it difficult to come up with original replies to those short responses. Have I rambled on long enough to earn my few cents of originality yet?
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Earning lots of cash is not something that I associate with here anymore. Maybe if I was more original I'd earn more!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
27 Jul 12
The only genuinely excited people that I have seen are the BBC commentators. The BBC has exclusive rights to broadcast in the UK and are already pant wettingly OTT about the whole thing. I have not spoken to a single person that is more than passingly interested. If you live in one of the venues then perhaps it pays to either leave or get into the mood. Personally I will be glad when it's all over.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
27 Jul 12
My tongue was firmly embedded in my cheek when I mentioned earning lots of cash here. I have never seen it as somewhere to earn loads. Just a place to chill out a while. The few cents are just a bonus. I bet it is buzzing with excitement over there right now! I remember the opening day of the Sydney Olympics in 2000, it seemed that everyone was talking about it.
• United States
27 Jul 12
When I hear the word "hostel", I actually think "hostile", and it does not really make me want to go to a place like that. Then again, I think that "Hospice" is anther place that has taken its name from "hospitable", and I really do not want to go there, either. Do not misunderstand me, though, I actually think that the "Hospice" is a wonderful thing, and they were the only ones that told us the truth when my sister was dying - I just don't really want to be in a position to ever need their services again.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
27 Jul 12
I lived for a few months in a hostel once and it was most certainly grim! I hope that you never need a hospice either.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
26 Jul 12
Yes, often times there will be a lot of different meanings for one word, or a series of words, and many times it really depends on where the person is from as well. I do think that it is interesting when you start asking questions in here or talking about different things all the creative interactions, and many times something you may have never considered as well.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Very true. I also find it interesting to read how native speakers from different continents can interpret phrases so differently. Quite innocent words are offensive to American ears and vice versa.
@ajithlal (14716)
• India
26 Jul 12
I think there are not lots of good discussions coming now a days, but I think most probably it will come. It is also good to respond to good discussions. I think we should try to bring back the old good discussions by commenting on them. I am also trying to respond and comment to old discussions now a days.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Good luck to you I hope that you manage it.
@BarBaraPrz (47308)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
26 Jul 12
The Polish word for hospital is szpital... I guess they do a lot of szpitting there.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
26 Jul 12
Probably the nurses do if the doctors get grabby. LOL
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jul 12
I only respond to original discussions. :D
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
Good job that you didn't respond to this one then!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jul 12
Yes, exactly my point
@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
26 Jul 12
Germans do like to use phrases as singular words, don't they? Such as "bushaltestelle" (SP?) for bus stop (literally, bus stop place). I've also wondered if hostile has origins in the same root word, especially since it is often homophonic to hostel here in the US. I've always found it interesting that on your side of the pond, you'll say "in hospital" while we here say "in THE hospital". I wonder why we added the article (or is it that you all dropped it?) As for what we might have called a hostel, I think back in the early 20th century, perhaps earlier, they called them "flop houses" or "rooming houses" - someplace one would go for a bath and sleeping for cheap. Obviously, hotels were inns way back, but possibly also sleeping accommodations. At one time, a hotel's purpose was to provide rest for a traveler who had no plans of staying in that location more than a night since their destination was farther along the road. Now, we book rooms as our final destination for tourism, which didn't exist previously, wanting the hotels to be as much a part of the entertainment as the rest of the region being visited. Another thought....I'm betting that "host" is also associated with the root word.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
I quite sure that host has its origins in the word hospitable. The American interpretation of English has always been less rigid than ours I think. Yet some of your spelling predates the standardisation of English that came about as a result of Johnson's dictionary in 1755. The spelling of the word Centre for example. You would spell it center - an entirely authentic English spelling. Which of course has its origins from French which would have spelt it the way we do today. Curious thing language.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
27 Jul 12
Jerz - I have discovered that if I stand in the center of the Sports Centre I am entirely correct in my usage of English on either side of the Atlantic. Funny old language.
@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
27 Jul 12
binggaling - you made me think of the word "smelt". It's either something you did with your nose, something you caught with a hook or something you do to metal in order to pour it into molds. P1ke - where I grew up, there is a section of the township named Centre City, the newest section, named (I've always assumed) after the Center City of Philadelphia (again assumption, because so many who moved there were from Philly). There is also Centre Square in Logan Township, another "newer" area in the same county.
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
26 Jul 12
Before surgery became so commonly done, probably most wealthy patients were cared for in their homes, or as a guest at the doctor's home. It was the less fortunate who had to go to the doctor for treatment, since doctors would not go to them. Since the word origins is middle English (1250-1300), and you live somewhere in the middle of England, I'll let you come up with suitable replacements.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
27 Jul 12
You are right. Rivers here are pee green....
@fantabulus (4000)
• India
26 Jul 12
I will start now original discussion and I hope nobody can start this type of funny discussions. Wait and I will complete your friend wish original discussion.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
I will look out for it.
@sishy7 (27167)
• Australia
26 Jul 12
I know one other language that call a Hospital the "sick house"; Indonesian term is Rumah=house Sakit=sick
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• United States
27 Jul 12
P1key, Sishy7 provided something new and unique here-does that mean that is who's gonna take the BR crown this time? Inquiring minds DEMAND to know!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
That is interesting. Thank you.
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
26 Jul 12
guess it all depends on what original means to you..
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jul 12
I guess so.