Should employers try to influence their employees voting?
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
August 6, 2012 8:03am CST
I work for a company that is run by right wingers, although are not very vocal about their political views in the past, their views are coming out more, and I see them trying to push their influence more. This morning the company mailed out an attached to a weekly employee news letter siting a Washington Post article that bashes the presidents view of letting the Bush tax cuts expire. Should employers attempt to influence their employees for their own personal good? Should the work place be a political save area?
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
6 Aug 12
I think that is really bad. I think professionals should stick to the profession and political view should be left to each individual to decide. Of course, organizations can provide their property to various parties for airing their views, but they cannot force employees to either join in or listen to these.
So in that sense, for me this is complete no-no and not democratic.
Cheers!
Ram
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Aug 12
Fat, my point is that if one of these candidates plans effected my company DIRECTLY I could understand that. In fact it is the exact opposite. Obama is supporting wind power which makes my company millions every year. Yet, they are supporting the guy that wants to end wind subsides. Unions are telling their employees who supports their ideas, and their wages. My company is doing the opposite because the owner, and executives make a lot of money and don't want to pay more in taxes even if it hurts their own company. What kind of sense does that make?
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@crossbones27 (49721)
• Mojave, California
7 Aug 12
Are you telling me that this is why so many business people do not like Obama? Being they do not know the issues well enough to make an informed decision on who would make a better President? To many people just see Republican or Democrat and never really look at the issue that would make more sense for them.
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@fantabulus (4000)
• India
7 Aug 12
This is not good way for voting influence employees for employers voting. But now politics are everywhere we cant save ourselves from politics.
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@Citizen_Stuart (2016)
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7 Aug 12
Your employers are just exercising their right to free speech. Trying to influence people politically is something we're all free to do (at least in democratic countries) so I don't see a problem here. The only problem I can see is if they start harassing employees for expressing different views - has anything like that happened?
@Citizen_Stuart (2016)
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7 Aug 12
If your employers are being unreasonable then it sounds like it'd be a good idea to look around for another job anyway - or even go into business for yourself. I've had literally dozens of jobs, and you can take it from me that you really don't need to take it if your bosses are giving you unecessary grief.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
8 Aug 12
My employers point me out from time to time, but it isn't often, and they know that they can get a laugh about it, but they also know that I can pick apart their ideology, and rarely engage me in political talk. I like my job, and the business I am in. I could leave to go to a competitor, but I have been at my job for 11 years, and they treat me well beyond politics (which is a very, very small amount). But, this is more of a wake up call to those who think that businessmen put their own business ahead of politics. When someone is willing to lose millions of dollars to same himself tens of thousands it should make us all wonder if listen to these people makes any sense at all, and if giving in to their tax demands would actually hurt the economy much like it has since Clinton left office.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Aug 12
The problem with inserting the first amendment is that it doesn't apply to employees. If I tell my employer to go to He!! he can fire me. If he tells me to go to He!! I can't fire him.
Yes, my employers know who I voted for in 2008, and voice their displeasure with it often. But, I ask them if they enjoy paying the taxes on all the income I make for them, and it shuts them up real quick!!!!
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
6 Aug 12
There is no federal law that says they can't influence their employees, but there may be state laws that say they can't coerce employees to vote a certain way. I think it's a good idea if an employer just leave his employees alone on this subject.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Aug 12
I believe that Unions should tell their employees who is looking our for THEIR income, and jobs. The problem I have with my bosses is that they are only looking out for their SHORT TERM wallets. If a union is telling their employees that one candidate supports their JOBS, and one doesn't than that is business related. For my company it is the opposite, it actually would hurt their business.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
8 Aug 12
Fat, did you actually read what I said? My employer is more worried about the taxes on his six figure salary than the $3 MILLION his company makes a year on the installation of wind turbines. He is actually NOT worried about his employees, or their jobs, he is worried about his bank account.
You right wingers are so ignorant and never learn from your mistakes. Trickle down economics didn't work for Reagan, it didn't work for Bush, and it won't work for Romney. When will you neo-cons learn?
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
7 Aug 12
And the employers are not looking out for their jobs?
It is okay for the union, but not the actual employer who needs these people to work for them and help them.
This is just a bunch of lefty crap you are spouting out here.
Debater, you lefties forget one big principle. Without the employer, the employee will not have a job. So let you union buddies take care of you when the employee goes belly up.
Haha, You are a union rep.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
7 Aug 12
It is wrong to let their employees know that some of the tax breaks, that come from Bush's tax breaks, are going to expire?
When these employees get their checks and it is less that previous, who will the employees complain to first. They will be in the HR office complaining.
The employer needs to inform their employees that their taxes will be increases, and the employee can take the action they want.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Aug 12
Fat, would it be wrong if my employers were democrats and they said that if Romney was elected you would all lose your jobs? Romney wants to cut funding for wind energy which makes up 3% or my companies income. Would that destroy their jobs? Probably not, just like this fear tactic that taxes will go up for middle and lower income Americans if Obama is reelected. We all know that won't happen, but republicans are using this fear to save their own hid.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
8 Aug 12
Fat, if we shouldn't support energy companies, then why do republicans vote for the $18 BILLION every year?
The power line tech was feeding you a line of bull. The reason they cut them down is because of supply and demand, you can't store electricity you either use or lose. The reason they tell them to scale back is so the company that guy works for can make more money. The real problem with our energy grid is own by the electric companies, and they are making sure their monopolies are remain untouched.
I am tired of giving corporations BILLIONS in republican hand outs, when they make BILLIONS in profit, and hold the country hostage.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
7 Aug 12
Shouldn't win energy be able to stand on its own two feet and not need tax payers assistant to prpduce. If it can stand on its own, it is not viable solution and the rest of us may lose our jobs when the country goes down in smoke because we funded too much of these nonviable projects.
Where I live, the power transmission techs tell us they have to tell the wind generators to scale back because they are overloading the transmission lines, yet the wind mill people still are building them because they are making money from the government. They are not making money producing electricity, the are making money from the government. This is totally wrong. Many of us are getting tired of this crap.
@sender621 (14893)
• United States
7 Aug 12
Everyone has their right to their own political views. It was they belief in and abide by. Noi employer should have the right to influence any kind of political swayoing with their employees. Everyone should have the right to choose.The choices should not be made for themy employers. Poloitics has nothing to do with job performance.
@Fulltank (2882)
• Philippines
7 Aug 12
The Constitution states that one should votes based on his/her own and no other people should influence that. If someone influence me to vote for someone, it should have been a great deal to follow him/her. I knew that even religion influence their followers to vote for certain politicians.
@love4kolkata (279)
• India
7 Aug 12
I dont support it. Its unethical because its a workplace and it should not encourage any kind of grouping among the workers which can lead to unhealthy working environment. Everyone should have their own political views and interests which should be made private in a place like office.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
7 Aug 12
I think this needs to be done in some instances.
I.e. If the government policies are going to force the company to shutdown, the employer has the responsibility to let its employees know what is going on and what they can do to help prevent the company to shut so that they will lose their jobs. They can even get their unions involved in this, if they are unionized.
Employees and employers need to have a working relationship so they can communicate what their needs are, especially if jobs are on the line. It would be more unethical not to tell the employees what is going on.
There a many employees who do not follow what is going on and need to be informed.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Aug 12
Fat, this is actually the opposite in my case. My company made millions last year on wind farms, and Romney has already said he is cutting funding for them. But, my employers are like most wealthy individuals, and is only worried about his own pocket book (even if he is stepping over dollars to pick up pennies).
What people don't understand is that it isn't how much money you make, it is how much you spend. The rich have become the worse at this since the Bush years. They don't realize that they would have made a lot more money if the economy was doing better, instead of using that money on tax cuts, they should have used it to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and pay down the debt.
Now the world is paying for the greed of the ultra wealthy at their own expense!!!