she stuck her finger in the sugar bowl then licked it, and back to the bow.. Why

hi janey I am so glad to be back,.your mom would have had a fit had she se en that. the woman actuallysucked the sugar off he r' finger. I was in total shock and was staring at her and she did not even blink. so guess she has always done that.It is gross and unsanitrary. who knows what she had on that finger at any time. she may have just come from the restrooom for all any one knew.

hi janey yes looking back at my comment I grossed my self' out but its a thou ght I think alot of us had watching her go back again and again with that finger., y uck.

Yes, of course..wiping her bottom. Doesn't bear thinking about. I can feel a coming on!

hi ElicBxn and stringer on some tables there are sugar containers with a lid and y o u pourout how much sugar you wish for your coffee or cereal bu t on a few like hers there are small open bowls which I realize should not be as a lot of people here do have some mental problems. from what I have observed over the years I have been here that the 3 owners do cut a lot of corners and do do some things that I feel would not pass inspection bu t the rules I am told are more lenient for retirement centers as opposed to real nursing homes which have more stringent rules.you both have brought up some really valid points. I have wondered at the open sugar bowls on some tables.

Aunty: yes. you can ask for packet sugar instead of sugar in a big/small bowl. but aunty--do you take sugar? i am sure you may not. tell me.

You are right , ElicBxn , I have never seen sugar in restaurant that came with something other than a small and close personal package of 1-3 grams... How can people give sugar in a bowl and expect 100% of the people to keep the sugar clean ?

hi shellyann you know I think its that old I do not w ant to get involved thing that people do when they take no action at someting that goes wrong in front of them.

hi shellyann I was so pleased just now when I went to dinner as Rose one of our health helpers had heard me complain about the sugar and she took it off t he table and instead put a container that pours from the top and no way can the woman stick her finger in it. thank goodness as watching her began to make me feel queasy just thinking about it. glad rose heard and did what had to be done.I never use out of any open containers here ever specially having seen this weird lady. she must be senile or have Alzheimer disease like my roomie. but my roomie is very clean thank g od for that.

I am glad that Rose took care of it for you. She sounds like a real winner! Don't you just cringe at the workers who just shrug their shoulders and go on about the day like nothing happened?

catdlal i am back and just realized we h ave a resident meeting on Thursday so am going to bring this up and see if sometghing can be done. the president is the o ne who come help on this. good idea as if any one else borrows that sugar bowl they will get more than they bargained for.the other person does not use the s ugar and he has seen what she does so he goes else where if h e needs sugar,

hi catdla1 yes it finally boiled down to the fact that given sugar bowls at some tables. they gave her her own sugar bowl and just said have at it. loll

Maybe the easies way to solve the problem is to give the woman her own sugar bowl. That way she can enjoy herself, and others aren't put at risk. Good luck at the meeting.

hi lologirl our top health aide overheard my complaints and she took the dirty sugar bowl and brought a cont ainer that has a spout so she cannot put her fingers in it. I e xpect Rose also talked to hertoo. I am so glad as it was starting to make me feel sick just watching her.rose is really pretty good about things like that here.

hi pahak she is old enought to be senile bu t have no idea her age. not all old people are senile. I am not for ex ample and a lot of us are not. its deplorable that the care taker did not speak to her about it. so gross.

Considering this buffet system in hotels -- lunch or dinner is not at all healthy. you get different people with or without problems. Unfortunately germs do not come in places we expect and they affect us without our knowledge as we grow older and older. good day.

At some point, we needed to have our immune systems built up so that we didn't contract every sickness brought to school. I know that I have to be really careful, because multiple sclerosis is an auto-immune disorder and I'm more likely to pick up something nasty. But if that woman has always done it, she may not realize that not everyone else wants to share her sugar bowl-spit!

hi scorpiobabes and ravi yes I agree yo u just do not know in buffet places whether its clean or fu ll of someone'elses spit with their germs offered to us. y es I think as we age our immune systems seem to suffer more and do not fully protect us. I think the lady has done this all her life and maybe she really do es not know its not sanitary. lol.

hi jazel__juan yes I do think she is getting senile. Rose overheard my conversation with t he caregiver, Rose is our medical lay person and she agreed that contaminated sugar bowl had to go. she put clean sugar in a closed container with a small pour spout so nobody could stick a finger in it at all.thank goodness for that.

Rse felt m y complaint was valid and I was glad as I hated watching that women d o th at, yuck.

oh thank goodness for her, it must be that gross lol..

hi canellita yes we shou ld or covered containers with pour spout on top.yes i agree she seems to have done this for years and finally she got another bowl so they told her bluntly" okay stick your finger in this and eat your own spit but do not share this with anyone.hope she obeys?"

you are right a s she might just hand it to someone who wants to borow sugar. yes sugar packets really would be the safest way but these 3 owners are only watching the bottom line here and thats costs. theycut corners w ay too much in my estimation and its not like its cheap to live here either as it takes the biggest part of my social security and SSI checks.

I don't think I would trust her! Who knows if she is the only one doing it? A dispenser with a lid wouldn't come with a lock so that wouldn't help the situation. Individual packets, that's the way to go.

allknowing I have seen that too at parties and have com plained and been told "you are too prissy. live a little" they just did not see that every time you dip another chip you are contributing your spit to the bowl with others spit. this idea should make their stomachs rebel.It is most unhygienic too. the lady here got reprimanded by Rose in a tactful way and now they have clean sugar in a sealed container with a pour spout on top. I am so glad.

hi all knowing most of the tables have closed container of sugar with a pour spout on top. some unthinking caregiver put a nother open bowl of sugar at her table and shes right b ack at it, wetting her finger, sticking it in t he sugar and sucking the sugar off then going back for more. yuck

Even 5 star hotels have this system Ugh...! May be your home could start on cubes?

hi chang there really are a strange mix of people here from intelligent literate to completely senile and all stages in between. Rose our top lay medic person overheard the care giver'blowing off my complaint. so she went over to the lady with the sugary finger and told her"Love do not put your finger into'that sugar bowl as you have now put your spit in the s u gar. do not do that sweetie." she took away the dirty sugar bowl and replaced it with a sealed container of sugar with a pour spout on top. no fingers can get into that now.

hi chang it did n ot really upset her as she seems way out of it as if she may have had a stroke.

I don't know how the lady felt at the moment when the top lay medic person said that to her.If it were another person,she would look for a hole and crawl into.

Bacteria from strangers can make damage if they come to our body. I had a room partner in the army , he used to ask me for my shaving machine. I didn't think it would make any infection to my skin but it did. My face skin got 2 spots that had infection and I had to stop shaving. I still have a scar on one of my chicks , near the jaw bone. I wish I could just buy shaving knives for a single usage and just give him some...That poor and crying room partner.

hi ravisivan yes som etimes things do change in some as we age but I am one who ha s survived with my mind in tact. arthritis and high blood pressure and diabet es yes, but my mind is clear and working as well as it did twenty years ago.She seems to be one lost lady and I have no idea what her mental and physical conditons really are. I know she has some nerve damage as she cannot keep her legs still.

Stringer: you are a young man. Normally young people must be more fit and infections should be affected by you people.!!! I know what you are telling. If the lady can understand then we can tell and try to correct her. Beyond some age people lose the ability to accept others views.(exception hatley aunty)...right.

hi RiotterSport yes I really am so glad I am not senile or have Alzeheimer disease as I am so fortunate. I can enjoy old age and use my mind to have all sorts of fun here on mylot and on other sites tool. I think the poor finger licking lady has possibly had a stroke as she acts not with things. still got the shallow sugar bowl back and is sticking her finger in the sugar and having a ball. yuck.

hi ritterSport yes some just are thoughtless and do n ot realize that putting your fingers into a common container loads it with ones spit whic h I do believe is laden with germs.] some intelligent people at work had double dipped with their chips and did not even u nderstand why the rest of us wou ld not use that bowl of dip.I had tried to tell her to put some'of the dip on her plate then have at it, she just did not' believe me that it was unclean. lol

this great aunt I referred to was in perfectly good mental health back then so that wasnt the cause but mere thoughtlessness.....

hi bj I had complained to a caregiver who shrugged me off but Rose our lay medical person did overhear me and she got the contaminated sugar bowl and took it away.she replaced it with a sealed sugar container with a small pour spout that the lady could not stick her finger in it. she also reprimanded the lady for that action too. glad she did it as watching her stick her finger in that, suck her finger then s tick it back in made me feel half ill.I could envision all sorts of germs multiplying in that sugar and it made me feel sick thinking about it.

hi bjc oh my she did it again got another sugar bowl and is now back at sticking her fingers in it but she 'was told it w as hers only no one else was to use it. live and learn. I just look the other way.,let her containate hedr own sugar and eat it.

I am sure you did got that sickness feeling in the tummy.. I am glad someone there had sense to take control of the situtatiuon,,,,

I'm sorry if you thought I was being critical dear Hatley. I'm afraid when I re-read my post, it could be taken that way but that was not my intention. It was just my thoughts from my own experiences and thinking.

hi mstickle thats okay really., its so hard here to know when I should report something as these are co residents and I must live with them and get along too,. some people here are younger like in their fifties or sixties and some have anger management 'problems too, I really did understand where you were coming from. I found myself very angry at one whom I have always admired here for making fun of a resident,. to me he went too far. She co uld not help what she did as she had had two strokes and was much older than Jesse who made fun of her.

hi mstickle I thou ght long and hard on this but as the lady is really rude and trying to talk to her did no good I talked to rose a health helper here. she told me she had always dispised the idea here of having open sugar bowls. she got rid of the contaminated sugar and put clean sugar in a container closed with a small pour spout that nobody could stick a finger in it. I did not discuss her with anyone but the caregiver who saw nothing wrong and Rose. sure I have faults to but growing up in a medical family I learned about good hygiene and germs.I would never make fun of anyone here but truly was concerned that others would use that sugar as it was not clean. I am 85 and why should I pick on others my age unless I w as really concerned with that contaminated sugar.

I wonder if the health inspector got wind of it if any action would be taken? That is so disturbing..

hi carm I also wondered about that. in the kitchen they really are scruplessly clean and wear gloves all the time while cooking and c leaning up. surely someone can see her doing that y u ck

hi carm thats why I told several of the care takers who just shrugged and I do not think they reported it to the kit chem. I know the other person at her table now re fuses to ust that sug ar bu t borrows from a table with sugar in a pour spout container.I felt just like you and I had expected the care giver at least one of them to have put a stop to it. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Oh, you are right and I am wrong. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today and I've been very contentious. I also forgot, as I wrote, that you live in a facility that has to take care not to compromise the health of those that may already have problems. I keep forgetting that you are older than me! Thank you for disagreeing so nicely with such a grumpy dragon today.

hi dragon54u what a sweet apology for just saying what you feel, nothiong to forgive you for.I love it when my mylot friends feel free around me to disagree if they do as this is what makes our mylot so wonderful that we all can say what we feel and not start a war either. hugs from hatley

hi dragon54u if we had been all younger healthy people I might have thought that way too but here there are all ages and m ost are elder5ly with many health problems. so I just told a caregiver who thought like you whats the big deal? well the big deal with this lady is that she may carry some really nasty germs given her state of health and why let her put her spit into sugar that others will also use? Rose overheard our conversation and did what should have been done but with tact." love, please do not s tick your wet finger into that sugar, thats nogt healthy sugar." then she took the contaminated sugar out and brou ght over a container of sugar with a pour spout on top.Nobody could stick a finger in that. I know that what you say h as a lot of validity but here theres more chance of spreading some really nasty germs to those whose immune systems are already weakened. I grew up in a medical family with medical values and I still believe in having decent table manners and not spitting in others foods. soory to disagree.

Not everyone is taught proper table manners. My grandpop (he was from Italy) used to have a boarding house reach that drove my father bonkers, but didn't bother my mom. I'd be sitting between them and I'd notice my grandfather's hand coming over to grab something that was in front of my dad, but he never thought to ask me to pass it. My mom grew up with it, so I guess she didn't really notice how rude it was. I'll share a drink with a straw with someone I'm already involved with (ie, boyfriend or husband) or my child, but not with a friend. And if I have a really big chip, I'll make it a point to turn the chip around so that I'm holding the section I bit in my fingers and dipping fresh, rather than take an overly large scoop. That's just plain wrong!

hi blondie I also think it gross and no matter what age we still should strive to remember our table manners and to think of other people too.Double dipping is always a no no whether at home or in a retirement center when I share something I am careful that my silver ware or fingers never touched it as I know how easy it is to contaminate food when sharing.Often some of us do not like one item so we try to give it to a friend but if I have seen them eating from this plate I will refuse it. it is not safe to assume the other person did not dip a spoon in and get their saliva onto the food they want you to eat.

ravi my mom and I w ere so close and she always was there for me. so many people do not have that closeness with their moms.My dad was a different story. nobody corrected him as he had a quick triggered anger all the time.I respectedhim of course as my dad but I am sorry to say I did n ot like him. He was two faced,a hypocrite who was constanlty unfaithful to my Mom but she never'knew it. I did find out sadly when I started tracing my family tree on the Clark, my dad 's side.

Stringer/Hatley: You are right. Aunty you corrected you mother also at her 40th year. similar to what we have in Hindu scriptures -- Karthikeya (muruga) corrected his father(Lord Siva) when he went wrong. nice. See nothing has happened for you after that also. good.