Obama and Betrayal

@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
September 2, 2012 3:24pm CST
President Obama has declared that the US will not be complicit in an attack by Israel on Iran. http://www.debka.com/article/22324/ I'm sadly reminded of his previous 'I've got your back' to PM Netanyahu earlier in the year. Could this be something to do with his speaking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Seoul, with an open mic caught President Obama saying, "This is my last election. And after my election, I have more flexibility." Medvedev responded, "I understand you. I transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you." http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/russia-warns-israel-not-to-attack-iran-if-putin-wins-march-4-election-would-he-threaten-military-action-against-israel/ “Russia warned Israel on Wednesday that attacking Iran would be disastrous and played down the failure of a U.N. nuclear agency mission to Tehran, saying there is still a chance for new talks over the Iranian atomic programme,” reports Reuters. “‘Of course any possible military scenario against Iran will be catastrophic for the region and for the whole system of international relations,’ Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov told a news conference. http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/ayatoilet1/closure-straits-hormuz-joint-act-russia-and-iran Russia for sure has been cosying up to Iran in recent times. Iran, that was once a stalwarth ally of the west, is now in many ways a Russian sattelite. Russia has been supplying Nuclear technology to Iran, but also many key components for its defense industry. So far the regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is going to "wipe Israel off the map" seems to be Russian-friendly. But Mr. Ahmadinejad is anything but predictable. What will Russia do if Iranian president suddenly remembers his Islamic brothers in Chechnya? Nobody has yet managed to get weapon "toys" provided to a friendly regime back from an unfriendly one. Mr. Ahmadinejad said in a televised address: "Nuclear technology is not something we obtained easily, or something someone gave us so that they could take it back; no one can take it back." So,
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@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
3 Sep 12
So if Obama loses the election, would he be able to call martial law and not let Romney take over?
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Sep 12
I believe the easiest way would be if we were in a state of war. There is something about not changing leadership in a war, but it would have to be a declared war not just what we went through in Iraq which was not declared. I don't know if there are any other ways to usurp an election but if there are you can be sure he knows them.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
You mean between Nov. 6th and Jan. 20th? Not sure, I will go digging.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
http://mercatus.org/publication/beware-surge-midnight-regulations-0 This is all I can find but I limited my search to the time period right before transfer of power. http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon5.html Another less reliable site said insiders are sure it is about to happen. I don't want to even go there. I can't sleep as it is.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Debra, Bible prophecy states that Israel will be attacked by the BEAR from the north and God will defeat her enemy with Israel not firing a shot. I believe this time draws near very quickly.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Yes Fatcat, the bombs will be falling and the missles will be about to strike and God will save her and no man will be able to deny it was God who saved Israel.
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@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
3 Sep 12
From what I understand, Isreal will be at the brink of destruction and God will save her at the last minute.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Isaiah 38 and 39, it will take seven years to clean up the mess!
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@finlander60 (1804)
• United States
2 Sep 12
I would not trust OBAMA any further than I could throw him through the air. He may put his arm around your shoulder for a picture but, watch out for the other hand which probably has a knife in it.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
The internet rumors are rife with stories about his narcissistic ways. Mostly from White House staff and supposed friends from 'before Chicago'.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
2 Sep 12
I read this week sometime that Iran also is partnering with Korea for nuclear technology. None of these people like us and they all hate Israel. I hope we get a change in 2013. I hope Israel will hold off till she gets an ally in the WH. I hate it that we are betraying our friends, who saved our butts at least once when they bombed Hussein's fledgling nuke endeavors.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Sounds to me like the nations of the earth coming against Israel, just like it was predicted in Ezekiel 38-39 - that in the end days, after Israel had been returned to her land, the nation of Russia would lead an alliance of nations in an attack on Israel. We've heard of Gog and Magog leading this army; The term, 'Gog', above is translated from the Hebrew phrase, 'nesi rosh'. While 'rosh' can be an adjective meaning 'head' or leader, it can also mean a proper place name, 'Rosh'. "The Hebrew lexicon of Brown, Driver, and Briggs indicates that Rosh here is the proper name of a people ... today's Russia."6 'Tubal' and 'Meshech' were the fifth and sixth sons of Japheth, and their descendants settled south of the Black Sea ... The name, 'Moscow' derives from the tribal name, 'Meshech', and 'Tobolsk', the name of the principal state, from 'Tubal'. ("The Coming Peace in the Middle East", by Tim LaHaye, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, MI, p. 29-30) The other nations listed as lead by Gog and Magog; Persia (Iran)--from the North Cush (Ethiopia)--from the South -- while the direct modern equivalent of ancient Cush is Ethiopia, other black nations from this region might also be included. Put (Libya)--from the South Gomer (Eastern Europe)--from the North-Three sons of Gomer are mentioned in Genesis 10, namely Ashkenaz, Riphath (spelled Diphath in I Chronicles), Togarmah. Some have identified the children of Ashkenaz with the Scythians (Assyrian Ishkuza)However, in Hebrew the word Askhenaz designates the region of middle Europe now known as Germany. It has been conjectured that the term in the original Hebrew was Ashkuz, but that it became Ashkenaz when the Hebrew letter waw was accidentally miscopied as the similar-looking letter nun at some early stage of the transmission. Ancient Armenian and Georgian chronicles lists Togarmah as the ancestor of both people who originally inhabited the land between two Black and Caspian Seas and between two inaccessible mountains, Mount Elbrus and Mount Ararat respectively. According to Khazar records, Togarmah is regarded as the ancestor of the Turkic-speaking peoples House of Togarmah (probably the southern Russian republics [mostly Arab] and possibly Turkey)--from the north. We already see Persia in this (Iran) and Turkey has recently become 'radicalized by Islam'. So, I'd be watching for the others to fall into line with the Iranians.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Sep 12
A very late thank you for educating me. You know, the Catholics think that Armageddon already happened a couple thousand years ago but I can see the dark clouds gathering and I don't discount their believe but I think it will happen soon even if it's a repeat. Thanks for connecting the dots!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
5 Sep 12
I was born and baptized, raised a Catholic, but they are wrong. And it's ok to say so. They did not understand the scriptures found in Revelation and therefore made an error in judgment. I respect them too, for other reasons. Like their stand for life and dignity of human beings.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
3 Sep 12
Politics will never be clear cut with the volatile Middle East and unstable North Korea. There will no such thing as being on the fence in this topic. Like Israel, I am sure any country that assists them will be in disposition with most of the Middle East states. And, when Israel decides to strike their offensive enemies - their allies like US will be in a difficult position to support them when the entire world is against violent war. So, can we blame US from walking away from Israel? As for Iran, I think the whole world actually saw their defiance on developing an aggressive nuclear program. Didn't the entire world UN council used sanctions and exercise enough diplomacy to dissuade them? At the end of the day, can Israel be blamed for their drastic decisions when their people are being threatened with an imminent nuclear strike? I think we all know too well that Iran is like North Korea, who always have their own agenda and never honor their side of the deal.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
I am reminded of this quote: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke Nuclear weapons are terrifying instuments of war. When America stood up to USSR during the Reagan years, it brought about some real stability and lessening of fear. Now, America is ruled by appeasers who do nothing against evil, and shackle the good men who would do something to stop the evil. Sad sad state of affairs for the entire freedom loving world who actually DOES look for America to lead.
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@natliegleb (5175)
• India
3 Sep 12
obama is a man of opposite words and reaction,i lost faith in him in the first year itself,he has never ever lived up to the promise.i would prefer someone new for next president of usa
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
5 Sep 12
There are a lot of folks who agree with you on that natliegleb.