At what age do american young people...

@marguicha (220215)
Chile
September 20, 2012 12:19am CST
become independent? I just read a post about a 30 year old US citizen that was mad at his mother because she did not give him his "allowance" due to his having made some money that week. What I found more incredible (according to my experience in my culture and country)is that several americans (no age especification though)agreed with what he said. That mother must be at least 55 years old if not more. When is she going to retire as a provider for her "baby"? When I read these posts, even though I imagine that not everyone is like them, I feel so happy I live where I live. When I lost my husband, my two daughters handed over to me all their part of the money my husband left. They thought that we had done our jobs giving them an education. They both work, manage to ear for their family and are paying for their own house. They are my babies, but only to cuddle. I wouldn´t think of giving them money so that they can be lazy. Please tell me a different story. I´m shocked.
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• United States
22 Sep 12
Once upon a time , long ,long ago a teen would graduate highschool and then go to college. Find work, their own place and then a spouse. It was shameful to be 30 and not married. But then the 60's came along and many things changed. The major one, Having to be married by 30. With the 70's and 80's teens couldn't wait to leave home but many didn't go to college. By the 90's , the kids of the 60's and 70's had kids who had been brought up to look out for number 1, to get what they want when they want it. And along the way going out to find their own place wasn't a benchmark. They seem to go away to college and then come back home afterward. These days many would love to go out on their own but they can't find a job so they are back home. So that is why many are agreeing with the child/man. It is sad and wrong but how it is.
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• United States
22 Sep 12
There are exceptions. I have a friend who is 23 or 24 . She is married and has two children and she is more mature than I am and I'm old enough to be her mother! Will it ever get back to most teens Wanting to be full adults and work hard for thweir own house? I don't know.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
23 Sep 12
I don´t think that everyone should lead a full adult´s life when very young. I did it, but several things were different than the media. I was out of school and at the university at 16 and my fiance was 24 and earning more than my father as he was a professional soccer player. Still, my parents would not let me marry him until he got out of the university. Soccer playing doesn´t always last long. Still, I think that if a 30 year old man is being helped by his family, he should be thankful instead of wanting more.
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@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
22 Sep 12
I hope that your story is only half of the story, friend, and that as time goes by the next chapter gets better. I married at 18, got a husband for life (the only thing he messed up was to die too soon), 2 daughters, 2 university titles plus a postgrad. I understand the lack of jobs. But I´d love to pay a little for a boy to help me with the gardening. Only they all want to be executives now
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
20 Sep 12
Hi... I have always known Americans to be highly Independent.. I've heard that at the age of 16 they start making their own money... And thats what create their high sense of privacy and personal freedom.. I think, the story that you read was a one-off.. An exceptional case... You see, such cases exist everywhere... In every country!!! There are lazy over-grown over-fed babies, even here in India... We can't help it... It is just over-parenting...
• Tucson, Arizona
20 Sep 12
I wish I could say it was a one off case, but here I see it all the time. Over 55% of Americans are now on welfare or food stamps, for instance. It's amazing to see people in the grocery store with carts full of steaks, expensive TV dinners, chips, sodas, cookies and other junk-- all paid for by my tax dollars. I haven't had a steak in 6 months-- I can't afford one. We USED to be independent-- back in the 50's and 60's, before affirmative action, welfare, and going off the gold standard. Now the government encourages people to grab all the free stuff they can, at the expense of the 20% of Americans who actually do pay taxes-- and then these people scream that we who pay don't pay enough. Last year, ILLEGAL ALIENS-- trespassers, here against the law-- collected 7 BILLION dollars in payments from the government in tax credits alone-- which is funny because they don't pay taxes. What's even funnier is our government was running commercials on Spanish TV here and in Mexico, encouraging these people to apply for food stamps.
@sq2108 (95)
• China
21 Sep 12
I think it's the responsibility of the social welfare policy in America. Many person just live rely on the social welfare, because with social welfare they can live more comfortable than working by themself, so why they prefer to work? Hunting a job is so hard and work is so tired and bored, staying home without any working can live comfortable as well. It's unfail for other people who work hard and pay a huge number of taxes. So the unfair and unavailable social welfare policy must be amended now.
@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
20 Sep 12
It seems to vary by cultural group and area of the country. My boys were out on their own at 18 and 19, but I know people my age who still have kids living at home, in their 30's no jobs. A lot of kids are moving back home now too, because they have lost jobs or can't find work. When mine lived at home and worked, they gave me money towards the household bills, and did chores. Now my older one sends me money because over the years he borrowed over 10,000 from me for various things. y younger one is very financially responsible-- everything he ever borrowed he paid back as fast as possible. There are some cases where kids live with their parents because they have to, but sometimes it's laziness, or they are getting government assistance-- it's not uncommon in Arizona to see a middle aged woman collecting welfare to raise her grandchild, while the child's mother collects welfare and food stamps for being an unwed mother, and they all live in government paid housing. That is the fault of the government systems in place these days.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
20 Sep 12
I can understand the problem of lack of jobs, but I cannot understand complete lazyness. And if a young man is mad at his mother because she did not give him his allowance for a week (because what he earned was for luxuries), there´s something rotten in Denmark, as Shakespeare would have said. An it also shocked me the answers where I could see a sort of applause for this rant. I have lent my children money, and they have repaid it when they could. It´s the sort of thing like changing a roof (noone has money for that and asking the Bank is more expensive). I know a boy, son of a lady that helped me out with the house chores, that started to work on Saturdays when he was 15. He helped out with gardening for a few pesos. Now things are difficult as jobs go here too. He has not been able to find the kind of job he´s prepared to do. So he is working with a garbage company, getting the trash from each house and placing it in a truck. I say that is a job as decent as anyone and I´m proud of him. He helps his mother with her meds and is a good person. When he has time, he comes to give me some computer lessons. He can do that, but there´s no jobs available for that now.
• Tucson, Arizona
20 Sep 12
well unfortunately, for quite a few years here, people have been giving young people the idea they are entitled to things, like cars, cell phones and money from their parents that former generations would never have given them. So a lot of kids have never had to work for what they get-- which is sad. And the government is sending the same message-- that things like health care food and shelter-- which people used to have to work for-- should be rights. Now don't get offended-- I am not saying we should let people starve on the streets or die because they can't afford a doctor. But I AM saying that any society that punishes success the way America does is going to have serious problems. In the past, successful people could enjoy the rewards of their success-- you could be rich. Now, the government is sending the message that you can have money, but if you have more than they think is reasonable for a person, then you will be forced by taxation to give it to others who did nothing to earn or deserve it. The rich people are doing one of two things at the moment-- they're closing businesses and putting their money where the government can't touch it, or they are moving to other countries where success isn't punished. We gave all our money away, and now we are going to have our taxes raised AGAIN because we still have "too much". Why should I work hard to make money if the government is just going to take it and give it to someone who doesn't take care of their own life? Why should my other half work 80 hours a week to put steaks on the table for food stamp recipients? This is the biggest problem with socialism, collectivism and communism-- the 20% of people who actually want to work and be successful end up supporting the 80% who don't. Sooner or later, the 20% stop working-- like we will. We are glad to give our employees everything they work for and deserve, but I'll be darned if I'm going to support those who don't try to support themselves.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
22 Sep 12
I suppose it depends on the family and situation here..lol. I have seen children as young as 16 go out on their own..me included...and make their own place in the world. It is hard to do since legal age is 18 and I certainly would not recommend that choice but there are those that do. I have also seen people never leave home.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
23 Sep 12
I think that if people do not leave their parent´s home, they should help as much as they can. And they should be thankful for what they have instead of ranting because they don´t get more.
@asliah (11137)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
hi, actually i don't have any idea about on what age do American young people become independent,because here in my country we still keep our parent in our house even how elder they are.it because here in my country we give importance in our elder even our grandparents.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
16 Nov 12
Different countries have different customs, friend. I have found out here, at mylot, that many countries in Asia treat their elders with greater respect than in the western world.
@jula65 (133)
• Hyderabad, India
23 Sep 12
sometimes its not because of laziness people are dependent on their parents, but due to lack of proper job or any kind situation which makes them to dependent on their parents. see in my case i was doing a business at the age of 25 years but i met a sever loss so in order to recovery i dependent on my parents and they helped me to come out from the loss.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
25 Sep 12
I am sure that parents want to help their kids . But they should not be taken for granted as this youn man did.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
21 Sep 12
I think there is a spectrum - most people, however, should be responsible for themselves by the time they are in their mid-twenties. I stopped asking my parents for things when I was 19. But some of my friends still got an allowance from their parents for quite a while.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
21 Sep 12
I understand that if a young man or woman is in college, parents will try to help as much as they can. what I don`t undeerstand is that someone will blame his or her mother for not giving money if he`s earning some.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
20 Sep 12
That is ridiclous!!!! Both of my sons left home at 20. I have helped both of them out at times but they have always worked. I can not stand to be around lazy people. I think they both live above their means most of the time but they pretty much take care of themselves & their families & as far as i'm concerned that's what they are suppose to do.
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
21 Sep 12
I agree to that, Jo. I sometimes think that one of my daughters has too many vacations or that the other gives too much to her kids. But it´s her hard earned money. They are not asking anything from anyone so they can do as they please.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
22 Sep 12
I was in college until I was 21-years-old and my mother was partially supporting me through that time. However, as soon as I was done with college, I started providing almost everything for myself. I did still live under her roof until I was 28 years old (but paid her rent from the time I was 22 until we purchased our home and started the remodel a couple months before I turned 28. However, I really don't think that there is a real age that a young adult in America is considered to be independent. I've been there for over ten years now, since I was 22. However, my brother is going to be 30 in a little bit over a month and there are many things that he still depends on my mother for (despite the fact that he is married and has three daughters).
@marguicha (220215)
• Chile
26 Sep 12
I know you are afighter, friend. But besides what every person does (if they live with their parents) at least they should be humble and grateful if they are grownups.