Could it be a punishment?

That is just cruel. Her sister is just being petty. The sister is trying to make an excuse to explain, mostly to herself, why her sister had a miscarriage. Its just an evil way of thinking.

[b]Oh gag me. What an ignoramus! Such cretinous behavior would have horrible even if the poor mom had been older. After all, God forgives anyone who truly repents. That the jerk hauled out such a wicked attack, not when she'd been just an innocent child? I'm certain the poor lady was stunned by such an ignorant, rude person & was disturbed when she'd first realized what had been done to her! The nasty woman had NO idea whether the mom had repented or not!! Gee, judgmental, much?? I doubt seriously she didn't ask God to forgive herself & ALL others involved! I believe I can explain why her miscarriage was so devastating to her. She still felt the need to be forgiven. It's hard to forgive ones self. If the self-called "pro-life" (?) "gotcha" woman denied that,in essence, the mother probably prayed to Him, she butts in where she's not allowed to go! She's trespassed in God's territory. Stupid AND dangerous! The poor mom--unconsciously, remember--still felt guilty. She could have prayed--often! The cretin had no idea of what the poor lady had done or not done! Here's why I believe she was forgiven: she had done something for which she had to seek forgiveness[i], as evidenced by her grief. You see, the lady's got the pain very common to those who'd--deep within--been unable to forgive themselves their desire to further atone...all logic & knowledge aside. So, her feeling of hatred of abortion twisted her soul to hold tightly to unconscious guilt. Sad as it is, it's the pain of a miscarriage that alert doctors of the reason for such deep grief. And pro-life councilors can lead her to understand how God really works. Short of a miracle, only then can she internalize what previously understood only intellectually. At that point, she'll start to heal. Frequently this particular (there are lots other forms) expression of such guilt takes a form known as having children, & in fact, is called "having a 'replacement baby/babies.'" That's the attempt to make things better by filling her desire to be shed of her guilt. Her grief--after so long-- does bear a textbook resemblance. Often, those people know nothing of their own reasons, & don't even realize this is a psychological problem [/b] If you someone you know has abortion problem, gently & prayerfully steer them to trust God has complete forgiveness when ANYONE sincerely repents & believes His infinite love. Sorry for any typos. Maggiepie--still just another sinner, as we all are[/b]

People who say stuff like that should shut up. I am against abortion as well, but I don't believe God allows things like that for vindictive reasons.

I agree with you, that is something that you shouldn't say to someone who just had a miscarriage. That is just messed up that her sister even told her something like that. It is not a punishment for her having a abortion and you are right there are a lot of people who have miscarriages and they never had an abortion. Even you did have an abortion it is still not a punishment.

I think her sister is this religious fanatic. The soul is probably in the body of a fetus already and having an abortion is probably wrong but wow, if she had to do it at 12 I can only imagine what happened to the poor young girl. To say that in this painful moment shows this sister has some anger towards her sister cause you just don't kick your enemy like that, let along a sister!

I really can't say if it's a punishment or not as we are not on the right position. Only God knows. What I can say is it might be just a trial that you need to go through to learn a lesson. Maybe you need to change some of your attitude or maybe God wants you to develop faith in Him because He can really do miracles to our lives more than what we can expect. I suggest whatever happens to us keep on holding on to the promise of God that He will never leave nor forsake us. All of us have different trails so don't ever think that life or God is unfair.

I'm very sorry she lost her baby. That was a horrible thing for her sister to say to her. She is a bit*h & that was a very cruel thing for her to do.

That is SOOOO mean. Poor woman is going through enough and then to get her sister's nasty and mean hearted remark. To have such a thing happen when a girl is only 12 must be horrible. And by a family friend. I hope he was hung. I hope this woman is able to have another child and that she lived far away from her sister.

A remark like that one would be very hard to forgive. If what she said is true then I must be an awful person becauswe I had three miscarriages before my first son was born and then another two. Thhis poor girl has suffered so much in her life from the child abuse etc. That sister doesnot deserve to be called sister. I have a sister who can be a right royal pain but she would never have said this at all. I feel it for the young lady so deeply. I pray that she will get over this and one day will hold her own little baby in her arms. Many blessings

that sister is stupid and hateful and judgmental! i am sorry to be name-calling but i feel bad reading this story. some people, and some of them can be family or relations, can be so insensitive and ignorant (i think i am beginning to name-call again). how could that be punishment when the girl was raped, young and helpless? she was a victim and what bad thing did she deserve to have this incident? it was not her fault, it was the rapist fault and he must be the one punished.

Yeah, i quite agree with you as the sister being such a real B. If something unexpected and unfortunately this time a miscarriage, no one is to be blame as this could have been a congenital defect or a health issue. There is no rational as to blame it or associating it to some misfortunes before.

It could be a punishment if we do it on purpose, without no reason at all. That sister of hers should show some understanding because in the first place she has not gone through all what her sister went through at the age of 12.

oh my , how can she say like that, that to, to her own sister ,who is in pain at the moment. I don't think/believe its is punishment, that abortion happened with no fault of hers, at that tender age, If God want to punish , what was he doing while she was being raped ,in that age? No no,you brothers gf is not at all punished by God. The sister is really out of mind, she should visit a doctor.

My mom miscarried once when I was like only 15. She never had any abortion nor did she hurt anyone. Thinking that a miscarriage is a punishment from God is like saying that we have to sacrifice a virgin whenever it floods to appease the gods. It's just a very ancient way of thinking, very backwards and very offensive to God. That woman better be careful with whatever she says, the words coming out of her mouth are obviously poison, if she isn't careful she would choke on it. I feel bad for your bro's gf, but she could live without that sister of hers.

In pregnancy there can be twins either due to two eggs for non identical twins or the egg can split resulting in identical twins. Usually there is one baby and the baby could be normal or abnormal. Miscarriage happens when something wrong happens in the pregnancy. It can happen in the first four months most typically. It is just something bad which can happen and the lady doesn't bring it on herself. Miscarriage is not a punishment for a misdeed in the past. Nature has is successes and failures. It was very sad that your brother's girlfriend had a miscarriage at 16 weeks pregnancy. Something was wrong with her baby, pregnancy or body. Her sister was very nasty to say that the miscarriage happened due to the abortion she had a 12 years old. It was awful she got pregnant at age 12 by a family friend raping her. It was terrible her mom took her for an abortion and said it was a special procedure. It was tricky for the 12 year old girls mom. It was the rapist that was wrong. Her mom arranged the abortion so your brother's girlfriend was not responsible for her abortion. It was done without her wishes or knowledge. I feel very sorry for the girlfriend of your brother losing her baby due to miscarriage at 16 weeks pregnancy. It was such a shame you had two miscarriages. Life can be miserable sometimes. I wish every pregnant lady could have her baby born at 37 to 42 weeks pregnancy. I hate it when a pregnancy ends in miscarriage and it is misery for the lady.