Only good troll is a dead troll!!
@Hatley (163776)
Garden Grove, California
September 27, 2012 10:13am CST
I have seen several discussions lately where new users have been taken from tens and nines down to 4 or5 and these are people
who are making great posts.I surmise we have several trolls who
are minusing every time they can just for what? destroy someone'
account, revenge or just because they are sick individuals.
I have been suggesting to those whose ines toppled over night
to pmessage GoAsk Alice I did this for one newcomer who was
a little shy as she seemed to be really picked on.Alex notified me that he turned it over to those above him who will check on it
'and find out who is up to trolling,. your take mylotters, do we need someone to be trolling here? grrrrrrr is m y response.
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@koopharper (7601)
• Canada
27 Sep 12
Trolls are not welcome on myLot by anyone who actually likes the site. I wish there was a way to detect and deal with them easily. I know several victims here besides myself. It is discouraging to watch your star take a tumble. Thankfully I have friends here who plus me up at every reasonable opportunity. It doesn't do the really dramatic drops it did a couple of times here. Anyone who responds to anything I comment on gets a plus from me.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
27 Sep 12
Even Facebook doesn't have a 'Dislike' button. You can undo a 'Like' but you can't 'Dislike'. I have always thought that the 'minus' button here is all wrong and against the whole spirit of the thing. There should ONLY be a [+] and a [!], in my opinion.
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@BarBaraPrz (47308)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
27 Sep 12
I'll second that emotion.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi koopharper you are so right and I too give a plus to all
I comment on. I wish there was any way to stop this meaness
and thats what it is. one caution to my lotters all of you
in the guidelines it states firmly do not minus someone solely
because you did not agree with them or dislike them. remember this is not Facebook where you can like or dislike a person, this is my lot and we are rating posts, not peo ple MINUS only if the post harms mylot or is mean and insulting,.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
27 Sep 12
vandna7:
Yes I have seen in the recent past you make strong responses in other discussions. I am surprised at your lower fiddle here ! good day.
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@ajk111 (2495)
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27 Sep 12
Trolls have been a problem on mylot for as long as i can remember, some of them in the past were particularly nasty to certain members. they rounded on them like a pack like they were partaking in some bizarre bloodsport.
mylot seem a lot more on the ball these days and reporting them would seem the best option.
As many people have said already, the "-" button needs to go and why mylot have not acted on this i have no idea.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi ajk like we have to explain why we think a post has
been insulting to admins when we report it, we should
have to give admins the reason why we want to minus an
post,.so the troll would not get his or her way.
I think GG's idea is a good one and it should
'work too. either that or do away with it entirely.
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@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)
• India
27 Sep 12
Hatley, we must follow the rules and guidelines of this site to avoid unwanted reports, some persons may take revenge by giving low rating and give -ve rating to our topics, we must be careful with this kind of persons
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi vidhyaprakash I really do not think some people here whose stars dropped had done anything bad here.they obeyed the rules
and the guidelines.its wrong for anyone here to take revenge
by minusing anyone's post. if they have problems with others they are to go to the admins with it.we are not to give negative rating to people because they do not agree with us or we just do not'
like them as we are rating posts not people.I am careful but I
was not talking of myself at all bu t of o hers mostly newcomers on whom some troll is trolling them.this is wrong.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
29 Sep 12
@devilova, I think it is a shame that we cannot have a Bible discussion without someone taking offense. Personally I like to discuss Bible topics but as you say some people are so sensitive they cannot discuss it without getting there feelings hurt.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi riyauro you are most welcome. I do hope that there can be some patrolling to catch the troll or trolls and ban them
from mylot. its just so unfair and they love new comers as its easier I guess to bring their rating down, such meanness is just
not right for a great place like m ylot.
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@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
27 Sep 12
Hi, Hatley, there are several things going on besides just minusing people. Any time we have option to rate and we do not do so, we are bringing down the overall average of a person as well. I admit I am not as good as I used to be, at one time I would go through all discussions I participated in and give + to everything and to all. I still do rate + a lot, but not quite as much as I used to. I do the + for the discussion itself, and then + in any box I participate in and + for any comments on my responses, and then + to others in the discussion if I feel like it. So, we need to 1. be aware of trolls and stand up for anyone that is being bullied and 2. rate people + any time we get the chance and not get lazy about it. I am not sure if the newer users are aware of how important their + is to the fellow lotters.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi GG you know thats som ething I had not though of as I imagine a lot of newcomers who do not really read the info know we are supposed to rate our fellow mylotters. by this inaction
it sort of slows things and nobody will move at all
or someone will minus just at the wrong time and bring someone own,I went to Alex for this one newcomer who was shy and he is getting the admins to check on why her star dropped so
dramatically .I am pretty religious now on rating as like Lamb told me a long time back its a way to tell you have already
responded to someone;s discussion,.I hope a lot of newcomers'
will read your response and know to start rating.Also
those new here do read the guidelines and the FAQ's too a s it will help you to answer all your questions on my lot.
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@urbandekay (18278)
•
27 Sep 12
Even trolls contain the light within, you just need to find it!
all the best urban
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@BarBaraPrz (47308)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
27 Sep 12
I wonder what they would taste like if properly roasted? No doubt, would have to use a lot of garlic, but hey, I like garlic!
@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
27 Sep 12
HAHAHA! I'm getting this image in my head of this little troll turning on a barbeque roasting like a little pig! Hysterical and roasted garlic, what more can we ask for!!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 12
hi Kashmeresmycat i got that picture too and made me smile all day today. my tablemate asked me why I was grinning and he did not hear me so a joke screamed at someone does not seem so funny and of course he did not get it ,not being a computer nerd,.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Sep 12
I've said it before...we need to lose that negative button. I don't see any real good use for it and it leaves too much open for abuse. I haven't noticed this going on but then again, I've been very busy lately and haven't been on here as much. Hope they figure it out and put a stop to it real soon!
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
28 Sep 12
Hi Hatley,
Yes, that is a good idea too.
Brownie, I don't need a silly button when you comment to me...I can deal with your little comments...pretty used to them by now. And I commend you ...for once you seemed to not have anything to say about us "Blondies". I don't even get bothered by your comments....I know you love me. Admit it. There. Now you have something to say. I left you Un-speechless...as I usually do.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi sid you know what GG suggested we s hould have to give reasons for giving peop;le minuses just like we do in reporting something and I think that would stop trolls completel y.
he he vandy what on earth are you going to say to poor
sid that he would miss you
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
28 Sep 12
i could remember one mylotter here who said she believe someone was giving her negative ratings..even tho her posts are very good ones. So yes there might be a troll and it is about time admin could look it up.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 12
hi jazel__juan I went to bat for her and notified /alex by pmessaging GoAskAlice. He turned it over to adins and they
will check to see why her number was dro pping so hugely.
Alex was very sweet and notified me that they were checkinginto her rank dropping like that.
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@much2say (55601)
• Los Angeles, California
27 Sep 12
I wonder if there are any actual good trolls here . . . the kind that are plus-ing everyone! Ah, so the people upstairs are able to check on who is trolling? Well I hope they get caught. The bad ones just must have nothing better to do with their lives than to haunt people this way - so lame, isn't it? I remember there was a big problem with this on Yahoo Answers . . . I suppose it's the same with any of these type of sites! Grrrrrrrr.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
hi much2say I someetinmes wonder what makes a mean troll tick I mean surely they have better things to do than minus others for what, spite, hatred or what., its so stupid what do they think
they will get from this?I guess a good person just does not understand what motivates someone to do this and they do not even
know the people they hurt.grrrrrrrr. Admins needs to do some
patrolling to catch these trolls in the act.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
27 Sep 12
Hatley aunty:
I remember two years back on account of this your account and another leading member's account were given lower mylot reputation and it took several months for it to be rectified and your mylot reputation was brought to 10.
It is not known who spends time keenly for reducing the reputation of a particular member/s.
In fact mysdianait--I saw has given how to give +,- !.
Thank God for the last nearly six or seven months I am able to maintain 96% score. I know getting an increase over that may require more + because I have already posted more than 6000+.
Anyhow thanks for your initiatives in this regard. another new member from Philipines is also in a problem --her reputation is brought down repeatedly and in fact she posted about it more than once also. I think this must be the work of another woman -- because woman only envys woman!!!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
27 Sep 12
"woman only envys woman".
I am a woman but I have to admit that you have a point there. We don't see or hear of males who are jealous or envious of others as much as we hear and see woman tainted by that evil trait
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
h ravi I went to bat f or her and Alex nofified me he has admins
looking int her sudden drop.I went through that yes when I first came here. it took a long time before I got my blue star and Diana got hers at the same time. yes it could be a woman at that.hi diana and vandy and vandy you are making me la ugh again.I imagine there are men trolls as those two men who bragged about putting the old lady down to five meaning me and mylot admins hearing them immediately banned them from mylot;guess they never expected that. lol but women generally are more the jealous ones
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
27 Sep 12
That's why we need some under cover mylot police here. Actually, in a way we do. Concerned Mylot citizens like yourself and others watch out for folks who get bullied or snarked and minused by trolls. When I find some wrong doing like that I have a special person I go to who watches everything.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 12
Yes PQ in a wa y we need some patrols who could spy unusal
minusing down maybe on just one or two p osts.an under cover
troll catcher if you please.also please all newcomers remember'to
rate us as you read all our posts, we must do this to keep
our stars high and rating up.Please do this I beg of you
as it will benefit you too
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@shaggin (72131)
• United States
28 Sep 12
Wow I dont even understand how there number gets so low so fast. That is very dissapointing to them. If I see a very low rating on a newbie I usually advise them what to do to post quality discussions and comments. You can only rate someone a certain amount of times in a day thats all thats allowed. They would have to have an awful lot of people rating them negative at once for it to drop their rating a few numbers over night. I give a lot of positives out.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 12
hi shaggin I also rate everyone positive except for an insulting one then I just hit report.but hav e not done that
in years. I am glad they have set a limit to how many times one
can rate one person., that should discourage a lot of
trolls, that is what baffles me. I doubt that any one person now could do much minusing before running out of time as i am sure there's some stop when you get past a certain number o f minuses on one person.but two or three people in a group could do some real damage to ther person's reputation.
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@shaggin (72131)
• United States
28 Sep 12
Yes sometimes even I as open minded as I am thought some of her posts were a bit too much for me. I would just not comment on them and go to a different discussion. But like you I wouldnt have started putting negatives on her its just some of her discussions werent my cup of tea but it didnt mean that she was doing anything wrong.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 12
shaggin I think I remember her and they seem to have drove her away but at times she did get a bit too raunchy for me but I
never rated her negative because I just do not do that just because I do not agree with someone. thats not a negative post at all. I don't minus for insults but just re port them .And driving people from my lot is a sick thing to do.
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
28 Sep 12
Mine is always 7 with a white colour for this 1-2 years.
Never change, whether raise or drop.
I do ever give a minuse and also report a person cause his/r comment could brought a bad image for Mylot.
Imagine if people watch it, and make a judgement that Mylot isn't good place to stay.
Finally, most of his/r comment and or respond get deleted by the admin.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
hidevilova as we get bigger numbers after our names s adly it takes a lot m ore pluses to make it rise but keep doing quality posts and be as active here as you can it will rise slowly but surely
and remember to have have fu n and relax as you earn faster
that wa y.also do reall y read the guidelines as they help us
to learn what to do and not to do in making discussions, if
y=ou know the rules you will not break them, okay?
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
29 Sep 12
I don't care enough about it, cause I'm here to get discussion with others.
I believe, there are people like that in every site.
We could do nothing, as long as there still - button.
Anyone could be that troll, cause like in facebook. We could create as much as account in here.
One for the primary, the rest is for trolling.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
28 Sep 12
Trolls are just ugly 'nerds' (elves of the digital age) who don't agree with our purpose, and so by hindering us they think they will guide us to the right purpose (I know because sometimes I have to BE a troll, a gremlin throwing a monkey-wrench into the system that's not working for me as a regular user.)
Don't let the trolls trouble you; just go about your daily routine, stay set to your purpose, and the trolls'll get tired of trolling.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
hi mythociate I detest wrong doing and it does bother me
as they are picking on a young newcomer friend here
who is really hurting from it. I feel hopeles b ut asked adm ions and they will look into it
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 Oct 12
I know it's sad; but we have to grow a "rhino-skin" sometimes, to get through the small 'travail' into the life of old-timers
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@missjahn (4574)
• Philippines
28 Sep 12
hello there my madam...
actually this discussion you started is a bang and like a concern story to us who i considered a victim of prank people for their mischievous reasons behind they only knew selfishly. hmmm sorry for the words like that.
i almost lost hope with this, that is why i lost my perseverance to struggle harder in here because how can i have a joy in my heart that i could not maintain even my reputation to at least protect my standing. i am not asking for a perfect one for i know that would be too ambitious of me. at least i deserve to be rated fairly. to say my madam, you are the one who uplifted and give encouragement to stick even at my status. i do not want to delete this account for gone through with myself to this but maintaining the points of reputation would be so hard at the same time. i do not even want to get myself and to have a peek because i am scared to notice myself what is happening with my score ...
thanks my madam for bringing this topic on air. i hope everybody would listen and pay attention to this. you and you :)))
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
thanksmissjahn I have written to Alex and he told me he has his
admins working to find out why your star dropped so suddenly.'
I am hopeing that they can find the culprit and ban
him or her from mylot. so hang in as they are working
on it. hugs
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@missjahn (4574)
• Philippines
1 Oct 12
hello there again my madam:)))
ahmpt.. i am so happy for joining my cause. you are such a nice person. gosh, i am overwhelmed because it is out of your task already to do such thing like that but still you made your ways to help me resolve this problem of mine. how can i repay for that?
another one, i would like to inclusively share this idea of mine. i know that this person could use another account not to hurt the reputation of this doer to bring me down. what do you think about this kind of thinking i built in my mind. whatever, i still believed for best resolutions being done to give solutions to this.
whew! how can i repay you. saying thank you is not enough to show my gratitude to you. maybe God will repay you for me. more blessings! :* mwaahh
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@lynnes75 (443)
• Malaysia
28 Sep 12
Wow, thank you for this discussion. I'm somewhat new here and still getting the hang of things and slowly familiarizing myself with myLot, so I didn't know there are trolls around who are actually mean enough to sabotage someone else's account :( That is so sad. I've never liked trolls when I was on other sites; people usually suggest to ignore them and maybe they'll go away. But if these trolls can actually manage to 'minus' someone and mess up their earnings, then I say they need to be removed. As another poster commented first, we need a pa-troll team, maybe :P By the way, how else can we identify trolls here aside from them 'minus-ing' someone else's posts?
@lynnes75 (443)
• Malaysia
30 Sep 12
Ah. Well, thanks anyway, and I agree the admins should be alert to these nuisances ;) If the trolls here are like the trolls I encounter on other forums, maybe I can share how to identify them: They're mostly, if not usually, negative; always shooting down other people's opinions, to the point that sometimes they (the trolls) contradict themselves. They're also very prominent in infesting many threads and hijacking/sabotaging discussions by making inappropriate, inane, off-topic posts. Ok, these are what I know from other forums, hope this helps :D
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@yuficollections (72)
• Indonesia
28 Sep 12
Hi Hatley!
I found you =)
Ah trolling everywhere I guess..
No, I've had enough in my work place rite now. I don't even wish they are still exist until now at myLot . I'm new here and I hope I never met one of them :\
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
hi yuficollections hope you never do either as they will pu ll your reputation down to a silver star. for a long time they did not'seem to be here bu t now one is tryiong to chase out some newcomers
for some nefarious reason., I hate that.
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