Discussions Issue...
@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
India
September 28, 2012 8:38am CST
My point is very simple. Why is it that old timers, regular and popular myLot users tend to get higher responses to their discussions? Whereas interesting and genuine help wanted discussions started by others receive very low to no responses at all. Many not so popular myLot user's discussions manage to find place in the "today's top" category, but responses they get is disappointing at times. Its not that I'm angry or jealous with old timers, most of them are my friends, but it makes me wonder sometimes. What factor causes this distinguish? The number of friends one has plays a role, I know. But its not so vital. What other factors exist? I mean one gets paid to respond, yet such hesitation or avoidance makes no sense. Your take at this?
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
28 Sep 12
One thing to remember is that some of the 'help wanted' discussions may relate to issues that can be resolved in the FAQ section. If that's the case, the discussion will end up being deleted, so people are wary of it.
Another thing is that friends of the 'Old Timers' tend to be very active on MyLot, both starting and responding to discussions, so there are bound to be lots of responses. And of course, as you get more experienced here, you get to know what type of discussions will draw in the responses.
Finally, more experienced members tend to manage their discussions well. They'll pop back in to check if more comments have been made, and keep the discussion going. It's nothing personal against anyone at all - it's just the way things shake down.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
I agree with your point that most "help wanted" discussions relate to FAQs. Which can be very easily resolved if people know where to look for them. I myself entertain about 5 such discussions daily. But I never find them getting deleted though. You made a nice point about experience. Yes I'll learn about what discussions draw users as I ripe with time. I do comment back whenever possible to maintain the flow of the discussion till the replies remain interesting. Yeah I know no one has any personal issues with anyone. Its just like a big family where we all try to help each other in the form of discussions. Good day!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Sep 12
It is indeed one big family and we all try and do our best to make the interesting new users feel at home. Take a look at some of those discussions that get many responses and see what Sandra means by how they "manage their discussions well".
Too many new users just slam out a topic and then go off and leave it. Most of us are here to discuss and that is not easy when all we hear is an echo
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
Diana, discussion is a difficult form of communication it seems to most.
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
28 Sep 12
Hi MIMO, The only thing that I can think of is the visibility and familiarity that older members have .Many of the older members are regularly posting and starting discussions and they respond to each others discussions so naturally they get more responses.When you participate in others discussions they would want to respond to your discussions as well, it is as simple as that...In my own case I do look out for those members who regularly take part in mine .However,I also respond to any discussion that I find interesting no matter who started it, a friend,an old timer or a new comer - all the best and happy mylotting
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
Correct. Makes sense to me. I myself get interested in the discussions which my regular responders start. If I find their discussions interesting, I get eager to response. Getting familiar is a great factor. Nice point. Have noted it. Now I'll try to be more active and get popular.
Good day!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
28 Sep 12
As you rightly observed the older standing members have been around for long enough to collect a decent database of friends who have similar interests, which increases the chance of responses because many members check their friends' discussions and their own interests first. It is also helpful to have built a reputation for good discussions and responses which people rely upon.
I can understand your comments about good quality discussions receiving little or no response, but I do not consider this to be intentional. The vast number of members here makes it virtually impossible to find many of these decent discussions, which tend to be buried among a huge database.
I personally select discussions according to merit and my own preference for the type of content, but must miss a great deal of worthwhile discussions started by new members.
Naturally there will always be those who support their friends only, but these people are the exception and not the norm.
The only real solution is persevere and you will gradually get noticed , with the result that members will look for your discussions.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
hiasylum I often look for discussions that really interest me ajd a lot of times I do not even know the user beca se I am looking at the topic not the author the again I do go to my friendw and also respond there b t I respond as frequently to people I h ve not got on my friends list and a lot of time these people ask to be my friend too. I agree there are some gems by newcomers so we should really jump all over the place to give some newcomers a boost too.,
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Yeah definitely noting is intentional. I know that. I never meant that either. You're right there are so many discussions started every minute that good ones usually get buried under them. Having a large database of friends does help. Agreed with you points an took note of it. Good day!
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@silverfox09 (4708)
• United States
28 Sep 12
Good topic , I also wonder this myself , I think some of the older members are not interested in new members joining as if its taking something away from them . The old timers ignore your discussion because you are new and look out for their friends . I notice more new members reply to me and you know what I look out for them also .
I have old members on my friend list that never bless any of my discussion with a respond even if I make over 10 respond to theirs . I normally just ignore it but I notice a lot of discussion similar to yours are being started since lately, I guess others are seeing it also and asking "dont they count".
Good luck and I hope you have a good day .
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
28 Sep 12
On the contrary, new members are very beneficial to the site and a welcome addition. Without new members the site would gradually slow down and become much less interesting. I happily respond to a discussion that appeals to me irrespective of whether it was started by a member who has been here for 1 day or several years. Unfortunately, since the database here is so large I am more likely to discover a discussion created by a friend than by a new member, unless the discussion falls in my interest categories.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Sep 12
@ silverfox: 'some' of the older members may not be interested in the new users but I cann assure you that MANY older Lotters spend most of their time only with the new users.
We all need new users here. They bring a breath of fresh air with new topics for discussion and a different angle on old ones too.
@ Asylum: do you use the 'recent' tab? Everything goes there, regardless of whether it is a new or an old topic. As soon as there is recent activity, it will appear there. Refresh the page often, like once a minute, to see which discussion has received the latest activity. At the top of the list is the most recent.
Several of us use that list rather than any of the other pages.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
As a senior mentioned in a response above. Most newbies start discussions that are related to FAQs and can be easily resolved if they look at them. Although I respond to any discussion I come across which interests me, irrespective of the number of days they have been a member. I do come across discussions by newbies that have old timers responding to them. Good day!
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@Inderjeetkaur (944)
• India
28 Sep 12
Hello Mimo,
It is true that one can make money here with regular participation, but it is important that the discussions should be interesting enough for one to participate. Sometimes I come across discussions where I don't have anything to input.
I think that number of friends is also an influential factor on the number of responses one receives. More friends, more chances that they'll browse through the discussions started by friends. This will probably get you more responses.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Oct 12
and participating mimo that gets your user name in their view and they will seek you out as you responded to them so next time y you will start g etting oddles of responses so comment back
on all of them. good going.,
@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
I completely agree with you. Number of friends one has does plays a role. Also the interest level of the discussion should be seen from the view point of the others and not just mine. Something which interests me, may not interest others. Good day!
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@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)
• India
28 Sep 12
Hi friend, i too noticed it, some popular mylotters always get a lot of replies to their topics, even though the topic is not so interesting as well as their personal information. May be it is due to their popularity, friends circle and mylotting activities, i.e some senior mylotters are very friendly and always help and guide the newbies in a good way as well as comment on each and every replies, so most of the persons are interested in placing their replies to them
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 12
hi mimo and vidhya I get lots of responses now to my discussions
but believe me when I first started here I felt so bad
about not getting but two responses and i made a discussion
about it and one older user clued me in.she told me that when you
are the new kid on the block you have to get your name out to other users by responding a lot to their posts then a few will look and see for ex mimo has been really responding to us. we must go and look at her or his discussions a nd before long you will be getting responses.so I tried that and it did work too.Mimo you are on the right track now. I really bust my gut trying to comment back on all responses I get as I really appreciate the time'and effort they took t o respond to me. So I feel it would be rude
not to really work at commenting back to all the responses I get.
sometimes I may have to do it in steps but I really do do it.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
Yes. I'm thinking alike. But as others have mentioned. Getting familiar with other users is helpful and has its advantages. Also sometimes it is not about what we find interesting about our discussion, but whether others will find it interesting too or not. It makes sense to me. Good day!
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
28 Sep 12
Hi,
I am Old Timer here on Mylot. I very seldom pose a question myself because I never got a lot of responses. However, I know that some Mylotters always see who of their friends has a new discussion and they stick to answering the discussions of their friends.
My own approach is different. I cannot spend a whole lot of time on Mylot so when I sign on I look for discussions that interest me and I partake in them. It does not matter to me if these questions are posed by new people, friends or long time mylotters. I guess each one of us has a different system or method.
Stay awhile, you will find some interesting discussions.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
My approach is quite similar to yours. I too browse through different interests. If a topic interests me, I respond. Doesn't matters who started it. Often when I have some time in hand, I browse through the discussions stared by friends. Again I respond to them if I feel I have something to add. Good day!
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@AgentGulaman (3546)
• Philippines
6 Oct 12
She is leading the number of posts. She is the great myLot postaholic! I am now wondering how old will I be to reach even half of the posts she has!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
1 Oct 12
Hatley, nah you got it wrong, its actually R-U-L-Z.
Just call me Mimo. That is my real nickname. You must be really good as per Gulaman's description of old. As you have over 53.6K participations. Its phenomenal. Great going!
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@shaggin (72110)
• United States
28 Sep 12
A lot of people that comment on my discussions are the same ones over and over so I know they are my friends and must get notifications to their email when I post discussions. I love the notifications when my friends post something it helps me find more things to comment on then if I just browse around mylot. I just glance through the homepage and see if there is any titles that look like something I could comment on which is how I found this discussions :) I left you a bunch of positive ratings on here just so you know. I see you only have a 7 but looks like you leave quality comments and write quality dicussions so hopefully your number will go up higher.
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@shaggin (72110)
• United States
29 Sep 12
Yay you are right I see your star is at an 8 now that is wonderful. I didnt realize that newbies cannot rate until they reach the 100 mark. Its been 6 years since I was a newbie. I only remember I could not copy and paste in the beginning.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Sep 12
Just over 3 years ago myLot changed things and made it so that new users can no longer rate until they reach 100 to avoid abuse. There were seem in past years who would join and start neg rating others even without posting one single post.
MyLot saw the problem and fixed it for us!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
I guess your positives helped. Last night I was a Silver and today I see a shiny Gold beside my name. Thanks for the ratings. Yes I try my best to respond with quality. But I mostly respond to newbies. It turns out even though I've responded properly, they are not able to rate my response until they reach the 100th rank. So maybe that was affecting my reputation somewhat all this while. Thank you again. Good day!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Sep 12
mimo I can hear the sadness as I read your topic but I also hear you asking for explanations too.
I can only speak for how I participate in discussions. When I start my own, I only do so when I am available to comment back to all of the responses that might arrive. I do this immediately. Therefore those that are logged on at that particular time and want to discuss, know thatthere is someone else available too. Many users tart a topic and then go away. What is the point in doing that? those who respond then feel that they are talking to a brick wall and might remember it the next time that user starts another topic - and avoid it.
I know that many users start, including yourself, start discussions asking for help in certain specific interests. I can't help them so there is no point at all in me responding and saying 'I don't know how to help you' because that response would be removed.
I skip about all over the Lot, as you know, and when I see what to me is an interesting topic, I land on it - and sometimes stay there all day commentiong back and forth with even only one user.
Whether a topic, of mine or anyone else, reaches the 'top' is completely indifferent to me. I never check the 'top' discussions and I have absolutely no idea what makes them get into that list. I know hoe the 'hot' list is compiled and mine usually end up there thanks to everyone who is busy on them. The 'hot' list is made up of the most active discussions in a 24 hour period after they are first posted. When the 24 hours expires they vanish from that list.
Regardless of the fact that we get paid for our activity here, if I can't relate to a topic, no matter whether it a friend or a new user or whoever else, I will not particpate in it.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Sep 12
You know that I know that you are trying hard to get the best out of myLot
How about you forget about all the specific information for the next few days, for the week-end maybe, and you just concentrate on having fun? You see me on thos topics concerning myLot but I also know that you see me on the other fun topics too. I don't see you there though on those. Maybe it is time that you get some skates and start using them because then you will have a lot more fun than you seem to be having at the moment. Deal?
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
I completely understand what you mean. Yes replying to the responses is a good habit and will keep the responder interested in future discussions that I may start. Point noted. I must admit that I don't reply to every response that I receive. I comment back only when I find it interesting or the responder is unsure of what I asked for or has made a very good point. I seldom comment on echo responses, unless its exceptionally well written. Yes I've seen you commenting back and forth is several discussions on many occasions. The last part makes complete sense. I may have started a discussion which is interesting to me, but it may not be so to others. Thus, they'll stay aback. Nice suggestions. Will remember and try to implement. Good day!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
Haha. I know you know about my current position with myLot.
You're right, I seldom engage in issues and discussions other than myLot. As very little discussions seem to interest me. I somehow enjoy guiding newbies and solution seekers regarding myLot. Maybe I've some problem with me.
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@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
I am really careful this days, I guess that's the very "criterion" responders consider in choosing a topic to respond and interact with. Most newbies started topic that might violate the guidelines, we know all that admin will thrash it soon, so better not waste our precious time to it.
Second, the interest - most genuine topics that talked about life and religion, and some complicated issue (most personal) tend to receive few responses. Most of the times, myLotters are accessing myLot during office hours, take a break to respond, even they are interested they find it time consuming. Advices, giving crucial opinion sometimes finds the perfect time even for experts in that matter.
In your case, you might fall the my second idea... I guess most of the active myLotters during the time you have posted your topic are not interested, or not in the "mode" for your chosen discussion.
Yest, anyway, you have succeeded in this topic! See? Most Pioneers came specially my favorite mysD!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
I agree entirely with your first point. I myself come across several discussions which seem to be violating the guidelines. Thus, I avoid responding to them. As you mentioned, most of them come from newbies. Your second point makes sense too. Some discussions takes a lot of explanation to resolve it. Most office goers can't make time to respond to such discussions. And yes Diana has been of a great help to me lately. No wonder she's been loved by many users, including myself. Good day!
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
29 Sep 12
Considered like this,
A start a discussion and get couple comments. But A never give a respond or not so active on it.
B start a discussion and always active on giving respond to each comment B gets.
If A and B make a discussion, which one you will take a look first?
Both of them on your friend list and both of the topic are in the same interest you choose or we could say you able to give an opinion on that discussions.
The popularity is not only on the hand of Mylot, but also among Mylotters.
The elders have so much friends in here and most of them owe to that elders for the tips and tricks that they give in the past.
Like the law in Mylot, the more you active the more you will get.
Whether earning, friends, comments, responds, knowledge, etc.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
30 Sep 12
Yeah when I come across a mistake in someone's response, I comment to rectify them. Irrespective of their reaction towards it. I think I did the right thing by adding the comment. As it would benefit both, the responder and the discussion starter.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Nice example you sent up with A & B. Definitely B will be making most out of this site. I agree with you that myLot is such a site where the more one participates and remains active and better will he be awarded, be it earnings, responses, etc. I think there is where I commit the mistake. I comment only to responses which I find interesting, or a mistake. Also I seldom comment on other's responses. I think I should make myself more familiar around. Good day!
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@AgentGulaman (3546)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
Well, there are a lot of factors that affects the popularity of a discussion. Some of the big factors can be time zones, interests, discussion exposure. Old timers have already built friends and networks from their own time zones as well. Chances are, they will get many response when they are putting up discussions during the peak of the activity times of most myLotters. Such timing is important to be able to fetch responses. Of course, interests play a big part in the number of responses. However, people tend to respond to such discussions which are likely to receive back responses within the limited time that they have online. Getting quick responses drives the interest of myLotters too making those who are active old timers the favorites to get responses every now and then. Also, the exposure factor is there. Some discussions aren't even visible to others or noticeable to some because they are already flooded by their favorite friend's discussions. So where do you think will they respond using their limited time online? Of course you will respond to those discussions you have quick access into. You won't even bother to search for other discussions. That is why most top discussions even get richer responses compared to some other discussions.
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@AgentGulaman (3546)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
Oh, and may I add. It really helps in building up a good reputation also here in myLot. Gaining trust with other myLotters is a sure thing for them to participate in your discussions and respond to your comments also. Being known to be active and being an always good responder will surely attract other responders into your discussions. Many myLotters will never post on some other discussions which they knew that the topic starter will not get back or even read their comments on. Who would like to comment to a discussion when the starter won't even care about the discussion totally? Also, getting those old timers set as a great example to newbies make them popular in the first place. Same goes to their discussions.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Nice points. Taken note of. Time zones is a great factor, no wonder. Having several friends of the same time zone as of mine will definitely help to receive more responses as they'll be online sooner or later according to my time. So chances of receiving a response is greater. Visibility is a cause too. Good discussions can get buried under the number huge of discussions that are started every minute. Having a good number of friends definitely reduces the chances of being unnoticed. Good day!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Well, it makes me think. Is commenting back really so important? Sometimes a discussion starter may simply ask for opinions and/or advice. So he is going through the responses and thinking about his next step. He just wanted to listen and not reply. In such situations will it be notioned by the responder that this user is not reading the responses or never comments back?
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@riyauro (6421)
• India
28 Sep 12
I have not given a thought on this ever..lol actually to tell you that it does not matter as far as you are writing. It doesn't mean that if they are in today's top list that they are getting more money or something but it is a system that works that way and I don't think so that it does any favor to anyone. Just keep writing and your reward will follow. I am here from last three months and I am having fun here because I am learning alot. So i would tell you that just concentrate on writing and all will fall in place. Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful day ahead.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
28 Sep 12
Yeah I know that ending up in "today's top" has no monetary benefits. I'm not expecting it either. But the point is about starting an interesting discussion, but receiving no responses. It feels strange. Yes I'll keep on writing, as I enjoy my time here. Good day!
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@dfollin (25351)
• United States
29 Sep 12
In my opinion those people that get the most response to their discussions is because they have acquired a lot of friends.It is a good idea to ask a lot of people to be your friend.And when you get friend request then you should accept them as well.
Good luck!
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Yes. Having a good number of friends help. I don't have a large number of friends. I seldom request for friendship. But I make it a point to approve friends whenever a request has been send to me. Maybe I should try and expand my friends list for better responses to my discussions. Good day!
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@ajithlal (14716)
• India
29 Sep 12
I think regular mylot users get more responses because they tend to reply to others discussions and others do pay them back by replying to the discussions they start. I think it also matters one keeps lots of friendship in mylot. I think when one make good quality discussions, they can get more replies.
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@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
29 Sep 12
There is one thing that all these kinds of users share is a larger list of active friends in MyLot. More active friends that more than likely receive email alerts of each and every discussion that the user posts mean more responses to each post. Also, as I'm sure many people have said before, people are always more inclined to post in a person's discussion who also comes to theirs to post.
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@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Rightly said. I'll try to expand my friend list and become more familiar with the people around. As many have pointed, including you that this is a great way to generate responses. Thanks for the help. Good day!
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@surekharathi (14146)
• India
1 Oct 12
Yes I also observe this even on my old discussions get lots of responses and fun also. I enjoy on comment and lots of mylotters comment back on single response. But now no get more responses on my discussion. I also not know why this is happened. I think my discussions was interested in last year but not today.
@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
1 Oct 12
I guess you didn't update the interest levels of your discussions with time!
On the more serious front, it seems odd. Why should myLot users all of a sudden avoid your discussions? I think maybe your discussion gets buried under the thousands of discussions that are started everyday. It is receiving less exposure compared to a year before, as the number of members is increasing by the day and so does the number of discussions. That's what I think. Good day!
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
29 Sep 12
it all depends on your topic,how popular it is and how effectively it can reach out to people for sure
@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
I've seen that sometimes even an interesting topic/discussion misses responses. That forces me to think and start this discussion. Good day!
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@watchamacallitz (1171)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
Personally, I only respond to those topics that I know I can contribute in. Some discussions posted here are not relevant to me and instead of just answering for the sake of earnings and not make sense at all, I would prefer to just read and not comment.
Yes, the more friends you have, the more response you can get but that doesnt apply all the time :). Happy myLotting!
@MIMO_Rulz_111 (2074)
• India
29 Sep 12
Agreed. No point in responding unless we understand the subject and/or find it interesting. Our activities should be meaningful and not just for the sake of earning. Rightly said. Yup I know how important it is to have a long list of friends. No matter what the discussion is, some will definitely find it interesting. Thus, generating responses. Good day!
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