India lost out because of negligent coach and team management
By fannekhan
@fannekhan (783)
India
October 2, 2012 2:25pm CST
When India was thrashing Pakistan and closing in on a win Harsha Bhogle , in the commentary box was saying that India should win the match in 16.4 overs to overhaul the Pak net run rate. But any intelligent scorer or statistician could have told that India should finish the match in 12-13 overs. It was possible, not impossible for Kohli who was hitting at will. When Sehwag got out Dhoni or Raina should have walked out with instructions for Kohle totake the attack to the Pakistan camp and finish the match as quickly as possible. But no. Kohli was unawre as he and Yuvi did not show any urgency to close out the match in a hurry.
When Aus was thrashing India they showed the urgency to finish the match in 14 overs, if I am not wrong.That is why they crised into the semis even after losing to pak by 33 runs.
I think the coach and support staff who look at strategy and scoring and studying opposition batting and bowling shopuld be held accountable. Even captain and vice captain should be answerable for this show of ignorance and poor attitude... what do you say?
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8 responses
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
2 Oct 12
Everybody will own a victorious team. Losers have no takers. So nobody to support India which has failed miserably. Players do not have discipline. They are interested in money and this is the end.
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@stardustcdsd (1856)
• India
3 Oct 12
when you ask any of the indian players about kirsten they said he is a great coach and guess what ?they are saying the same thing about fletcher. I am pretty sure none of the players including the captain said anything bad about him.iam almost sure none of us here is a mind-reader so we are not sure what was going through the batsmen mind. We are not part of the team management to know whether they knew about it or not.besides india pakistan encounters are always an emotional one so the batsmen might have thought that they first win the match and then worry about the net runrate. so i am not sure we can comment and blame about things we can only guess. My argument is simple. This is not a team of rookies. If one remembers this indian team played and won matches without even a coach for a year. There guys can perform even without a coach. Simply put this team doesn't have the will to win. They might needed the cup badly but not badly enough and maybe next time pick a squad based on form and not on past glory.
@fannekhan (783)
• India
3 Oct 12
As usual, you go off at a tangent. net run rate is simple maths not rocket sience. Most scorers and statisticians have the figures at their finger tips and teams depend on them to formulate strategies. Players don't go out and simply bang away, this is not gully cricket. It si a matter of being alert and smart. If the Australians and Pakistanis can be smart why not India?
It is naive to think that teams can play without coach and support staff.
@stardustcdsd (1856)
• India
8 Oct 12
Are you by any chance saying that the indian players are nothing but a bunch of morons who dont even know that batting slow affects the net runrate?
After all its not rocket science. isn't it?
I might have agreed with you if the opposition were australia or england or even south africa but any match against pakistan( strong or weak ) in an ICC tournament,every indian players aim is to win first and then worry about the net run rate.
Cmon you should atleast have to agree with MS Dhoni.He was the one who kept saying and i quote," we want to take one game at a time and win.we dont want to think too far ahead". He must have sent that message to the indian batsmen during drinks break.
so if you want to blame anyone,blame Dhoni.
BTW i am not good with trigonometry .have a nice day.
@fannekhan (783)
• India
8 Oct 12
LOL! Hey, look what happened to Mahela once he started looking at the Duckworth Lewis sheet when he was batting. Immediately afterwards he gave a couple of catches and then he played a ridiculous reverse sweep shot and got out. Just because it had started raining and he needed to accelerate, but instead of accelerating he panicked. Now hat do you see iin this? He should have been sent a firm message to start pushing the rate because rain was intervening. But when the decision was thrust on him he made a serious error and lost the match. That is why I say that the messages should be sent by the coach and the player should take note and act accordingly, even if he is the captain. If the captain starts to open his smart phone or laptop at the non-striker's end you can imagine what will happen.
Tangents indicate trignometry, so dont't pull my leg, you must be a mathematical genius. But maths genius does not make you a cricket expert, LOL! Don't get offended friend, it is a game, after all. And poor Dhoni is trying to do his best and he does not look like a mathematical genius to me, LOL!
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
3 Oct 12
I agree with you assessment that India could have closed out the match against Pakistan earlier. At least one over earlier when Kohli and Yuvraj played a lot of dot balls could have been salvaged. Who knows in the final analysis that could have saved the day for India. But having said that India did not expect Pakistan to beat Australia by a huge margin of 33 runs, which was just the exact number of runs Aussies could afford to qualify for the semis. So in that sense India was a bit hard done. But no sense in crying over spilt milk.
Cheers!
Ram
@fannekhan (783)
• India
3 Oct 12
At least someone has the sense to understand where India went wrong, thank you. These small changes in attitude can win you major wars and it is high time India learnt to play professionally. If Hafeez played defnsively it was because he knew India will win so why not save the run rate so he set defensive fields and mitigated the margin of win but India was unaware that the other teams were alert while iNdia was complacent. this is where coach and support staff can be of great help.
@pratik87 (1927)
• India
4 Oct 12
very true, I think dhoni does not plan for these things and makes excuses later on such as the rains in the match between india and australia. He had gone in with three spinners and it would have been very wise to bowl first in that scenario. Instead, he batted first and then cried later that they lost due to the rains.
@fannekhan (783)
• India
4 Oct 12
His statements should not be taken too seriously. He is defending his team and it is important to sound positive even when the performance has been poor. Best thing is to shift the blame elsewhere.
Dhoni, as captain, cannot be bothered too much abour mathematical calculations, that is the job of the coach and support staff. He has to be fed inputs at the right time so that he can take informed decisions.
But if he is guilty of ignoring such vital inputs he has take responsibility for the lapses.
@grvdubey11 (1879)
• India
3 Oct 12
Completely agree , Dhoni and team management were aware that its a tough group and there is a strong possibility that Net run rate will be decisive.Indians could have finished the match against Pakistan much before 16.4 overs.It was quite poor approach overall.
@fannekhan (783)
• India
3 Oct 12
I hope they learn from their mistakes. No point saying we won 4/5, that is simpoly not good enough.
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
3 Oct 12
they were kind of complacent and they never attacked when it mattered the most in some areas and that caused them really and dearly the tournament
@rocking61279 (182)
•
2 Oct 12
You're absolutely correct this is due the team management and the coach. I don't know why they have appointed Duncan Flecher as the coach. He joined just after the world cup and after that India's downfall started didn't win any game in England. Then dismal performance in Australia. Even lost to Bangladesh in the Asia cup. Even the same thing happened they defeated Pakistan but didn't qualify for the finals. Indian cricket is going through a very rough phase as we just perform in the subcontinent rather than that we play like novices. Something should be done some changes should be made as soon as possible.
@mohkanari (1957)
• India
3 Oct 12
I think coach of Indian team is there only to fill the post. He is almost a failure to bring motivation to the team. I think he is just accompany with the team.
