Allah is the God of Bible !

Thank you for your comment. I believe all monotheist religions believe in the same deity as their God.

In my opinion to say something is a lie, we also should proof it or give at least a reason why we think so that it is a lie.

urbandekay, please can you describe what properties the God of New Testament have. Please do not tell me Father and Son things because that contradicts with the Old Testament. The entire Old Testament does not speak of any son for God. Something that became the basis of the Christian religion, why was it not mentioned in the Talmud? silvercryst340v3, I do not know which Muslim testimony you have referred to. Muslims are not prohibited to friend Jews and Christians. They are only told that Christians and Jews will not be loyal to Muslims. You as well as lot of Muslims misunderstand the concept of Jihad.

A Muslim testimony I read states the Allah is not a god who heals. According to the Bible, God can heal any kind of sickness/injury. I don't believe that Allah has an attribute of unconditional love (unlike the God of Christians) because according to the Qur'an, Muslims are prohibited in making friends with Jews and Christians (another is the Jihad). Therefore they don't have the same attributes making them to be different with each other.

Perhaps you could give the properties of Allah, since I made no identity claim, only gave the conditions to determine identity all the best urban

cher913, Yes Islamic God and Christian God and also Jewish God all are the same. Which one created the universe? When He is the same God ofcourse He is the Creator of the universe.:)

cher913 "But are the the Islamic God and the Christian God the same God?" yes He is one, He is the creator of the universe, But if you mean that the God of the Christians is the Christ, the Son of Mary , here I tell you they are not the same God because Muslims worship the Creator of the universe and believe that Christ is a messenger from the Creator to the children of Israel .

Have you ever heard or used the word YHVH for God?

Perhaps you will find this interesting http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293394,00.html

Yes, that I have heard. Not used it myself, but I've heard it. Just never Allah. I never knew it was the same thing.

work4kids2007, thank you my friend for sharing your views. I beg to differ with you and believe God is the same for all three religions i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I also do not think that Muslims are trying to kill Jews and Christians.

History proves that Muslim invaders killed thousands of Christians and Jews especially when they conquered Jerusalem. silvercryst340v3, which history you are referring to? can you site me some authentic source please?

How about Muslims who have known the truth, renounced their Islamic faith and were converted to Christianity? Just for example Youcef Nadarkhani, an Iranian pastor who had been sentenced to die in Tehran because of apostasy. Isn't that called "trying to kill a Christian?" History proves that Muslim invaders killed thousands of Christians and Jews especially when they conquered Jerusalem. Why did the Arab nations attacked Israel? There is no month that Israel receives surprising rockets from their haters. Do you know what the Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told in his speech? He told the UN audience that Israel is going to be eliminated. Isn't that called "trying to kill the Jews?"

silvercryst340v3, May I ask what are the basis for you to think Allah of Christians is different from Allah of Muslims? You mentioned Genesis, I have been told by Christians here in myLot that the Old Testament does not apply to them as Jesus came with a new covenant.

"I used the book of Genesis as a reference that the God's favor is with Isaac and not with Ishmael." ???? ?????? ? ?? ??? ??????? 17 : 6"And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee." 7"And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." 20 "And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. " "I used the book of Genesis as a reference that the God's favor is with Isaac and not with Ishmael." What do you say? In Genesis 17: 6 "And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee." 7 "And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." 20 "And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation." That God's covenant blessing had two sons together Ismail and Isaac , so Prophethood was in their offspring .. The Sons of his third wife Qtora was not in her offspring prophets , because God no longer Ibrahim blessing in his seeds of her.

I'm not sure about those Christians you are referring to because I don't know what exactly they have told you. Yes, Jesus came with the New Testament but that does not mean that Christians can not use the Old Testament as a reference (except for referencing the Old Testament for salvation). Christians also use the Old Testament to trace back history. I used the book of Genesis as a reference that the God's favor is with Isaac and not with Ishmael. Based on the 16th, 17th and 21st chapter of Genesis, Ishmael is the product of Sarai's decision in not trusting God. He was not the the child God wanted from Abraham, but Isaac. God told Hagar (Ishmael's mother) that Ishmael is going to be a great nation (because he is a son of the father of nations, Abraham - explains why there are many Arabs today). After those events, God still fulfilled his promise with Abraham regarding Isaac, the father of Jacob (to whom was the 12 tribes of Israel originated). God's purposes at that time is with Isaac, not with Ishmael. Ishmael should not have been born if Sarai trusted God's promise. I believe that Allah is not God. According to a track published by Jack T. Chick, "History proves that before Islam came into existence, the Sabeans in Arabia worshiped the moon god who married the son goddess, who gave birth to three goddesses. They were called Al-lat, Al-uzza and Manat. They later became idols and were worshiped throughout that part of the world as the "Daughters of Allah." The moon god was Allah. He was just one of 360 idols in the Ka'aba in Mecca. In 1950's a major temple to the moon-god was excavated at Hazor in Palestine. Two idols of the moon-god were found, proving Allah was a pre-Islamic deity." - from Allah Had No Son track Let me make myself clear that I'm not going to debate for this. I'm just here to share my opinions (as what MyLot was made to be). I'm not also here to convince you to believe my views. Believe what you believe to be true. As for me, the Bible is clear that God and Allah are not the same. God bless!

How do you know? all the best, urban

Hi anklesmash, indeed all Abrahamic religions believe in the same God though they might use different words to call Him. We Muslims also believe Islam to be the only religion sent from God/Allah. All prophets preached the same message, it might not be as we know Islam today since Islam evolved from good to better to best.

Hi, Allah is a name and also a title for the Almighty God.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you that we must believe based on knowledge instead of following traditions.

walaikum salam and thank you my sister for sharing your views. Indeed all Jews and Christians being the people of the book are our close friends and we must point out and find the similarities instead of differences to bring us all close to each other. Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." [3:64]

Walaikum Salam, yes some Christians are made into believing Allah is some pagan or moon god. But there are also Christians who have knowledge and who know this is not correct. In fact the website (Al-Bushra) which I have referred to in my post said they found the words 'Bismillah alRahman al Rahim' written on some very old Christian temples from the first century, i.e. before the doctrine of trinity was made.

That is Good , That's great, but do this change a thing for them , I do not think that , they convinced themselves trinity, The guilt of these in the neck of who adding trinity , to their faith which came by Christ, peace be upon him , they will know that when Christ descends .

Hello mangtony7451 greetings, Thank you for sharing your views. In the OT the names used for the God are ELOHIM, ELOAH, ELAHH etc. ELAHH sounds very much like Allah. Indeed the creator of the universe is one. Muslims call Him Allah and Christians like to call Him Yahweh. Jesus never used that word Yahweh and according to Matt. he used the words 'Eloi' when at cross. which again is close to Allah (Alaah Aramaic). Here I would also like to share with you this article by an American Muslim and hope all Abrahamic religions can find more reasons to come close to each other instead of feeling rivals. http://godfaithpen.com/2007/08/25/did-jesus-call-god-allah/

Hi and thank you for sharing your thoughts. Yes I totally agree. The creator is the same, calling him with different names does not mean we are calling different beings.