Politics at the pump
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
United States
October 21, 2012 10:10pm CST
I do not know how it has been in other areas but here gas has miraculously gone down. ( I am not complaining by the way) There has been quite a debate as to whether this is legitimate or a political ploy by the Obama administration to win the up coming election. There was a whole news cast just now about it on our local news station. So I want to hear Mylot's opinions on this. Weigh in on what you think. Falling gas prices a Democratic bid to keep Obama in office or one hell of a coincidence?
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@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
22 Oct 12
I like things simple, the government likes things complicated. Oil, is a highly over complicated matter.
At the federal, level there are only 2 things that congress can do to effect prices at the pump. Directly they can raise or lower the taxes/fees associated with gas. Indirectly they can release oil reserves which in theory would always lower the price much like it did last time. The state government is about the same, lower gas prices in certain areas is often due to the rate at which gas is taxed.
Other things that can affect prices, include, disasters, wars, foreign politics, threats, rate of current production, supply/demand, market politics, large investors, OPEC, EPA policy, etc. etc. because so many trillions of dollars are connected to oil.
That being said, it's most likely a significant reduction in demand, directly related to a poor economy. Looking at eia.gov our gas consumption has declined since 2007, the 2 major decreases were 07-08 and again in 10-11. We know the economy hasn't made a major recovery, and judging from the most recent data we may see another massive reduction in consumption this year. Combined with decreased imports and increased local production, prices should be dropping significantly.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
I hope each and everyday they drop! We have had a lot of ups and downs the last two years and the prices at the pump sure aren't helping our household budget.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
26 Oct 12
I know we are down to one car (using anyway) because we just cannot afford the gas. It is amazing how much can "happen" for no reason!
@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
25 Oct 12
I think they'll stay on the lower side then rise as people can afford to burn more gas than they absolutely have to again. Remember the last time we saw gas hit around $4/gal it went down a lot then for no valid reason (but a lot of made up ones) it went up again to where it was recently. I highly doubt we'll see anything around $2/gal ever again unless the economy collapses further. I think in essence gas is cheap because too many people like myself can't find a job that pays enough to own a car.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
22 Oct 12
No it is not. No one has control over the price of oil. Even if the Democrats were to change policy that would encourage oil production, it would be years, possibly a decade before the investments in production today, resulted in lower prices in the future.
Ironically, falling prices could be a very negative sign. It could mean that the economy is starting to stall out, and the demand for oil has stalled slightly, resulting in lower prices.
It could also mean that the economy elsewhere in the world has stalled. Even the smallest dip in Europe, or Asia, at now even Latin America, could drop the price.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst. But for sure, the Democrats had nothing to do with this.
The only thing I'd like to point out is, all those crazy people saying the price of oil will just go up and up and up. Doesn't this prove them wrong? All the people saying OPEC controls the price of oil. Doesn't this prove them wrong?
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
25 Oct 12
It's kind of like Ebay. You see a product for sale. Who controls the price? No one. As more people bid on it, the price goes up.
When a hurricane rolls towards the gulf, oil buyers anticipate possible disruption of their supply. We better stock up before the hurricane hits.
So they bid on the oil, just like you bid on an Ebay item. The price goes up.
It's no different, except that oil market is world wide. We bid on oil, just like Russians, Japanese, French, Africans, Brazilians and so on.
But no one controls the price. If anyone could control the price, the price would never go down. No one would ever sell oil for a lower price if they didn't have to.
If they have to, then they don't really control the price.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
Well I don't know. I mean if there is a storm before it hits the prices rise to "compensate". Someone controls the prices some where. The web though is so vast and intricate it is hard to decipher who it is really pulling the strings.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
22 Oct 12
Ours has not yet. But I heard it is supposed to. Whether it is a political issue, most likely but I am not sure.
According to marketplace.org, it is because of a weak economy
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/why-are-gas-prices-falling
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
Something the Obama administration denies, they keep saying in the debates how much better things are but really where is that happening I can say it is not here!
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@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
26 Oct 12
Die hards will tote it as one of his miracles though..
@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
22 Oct 12
I haven't noticed our gas prices the last couple of weeks because I actually had enough to get around. I don't think I could honestly say that I wouldn't think he would do such a thing. I think he would do anything to get the election. And, no, I don't think it is just one heck of a coincidence.
@eagletrek2 (5499)
• Kingston, New York
22 Oct 12
Hi no it not Politics im in ny state
and gas is still going open and this
is a dem. state I wish gas would go down
i have more money for food as of right
nigth No more going out to movies
or eating out at restuarant need the money for
gas to get to work .ok have good day.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
There have been weeks we need to chose gas for Hubby to go back and forth to work and food for our family. It has been easier since he carpools with a friend but that will only last so long as the friend plans to retire in a few months.
@stary1 (6612)
• United States
22 Oct 12
OpinionatedLady I live in the Los Angeles area so I don't see prices coming down. I have heard they are down in other parts of the country.
I never understood what Obama was saying in the debate in telling Romney that a bad economy means low gas prices...
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
Seeing as the economy has been bad the whole time he has been in office and here in our area getting worse I would love that logic explained to me!
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
26 Oct 12
Another Mylotter posted an explanation but I just don't really get it. The oil companies have been making record breaking profits yet the politicians in control say they are NOT in big oils pockets.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
Yes. I still never understood why he would want higher gas prices though
@evanslf (484)
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28 Oct 12
Oil prices are pretty difficult for any one government to control, the price largely depends on the cost of crude on the markets, and the markets gyrate depending on whether it is predicted there will be a tightening of supply, a possible war / flashpoint, a storm, etc.
Government's can of course control how much petrol costs at the pump by the taxes they put on petrol - in the UK petrol is very expensive as there is so much tax on it. In the US, it is a good deal cheaper than most European countries because the tax is far less. So how much you pay does depend on the Government, but this is more a long-term thing, not something short term just before an election, where the Government can get oil prices down.
That said, I do recall that the Clinton administration released some of the strategic US oil reserve a few months before the Presidential Election in November 2000. I can't remember what the reason was for doing so, but I do recall people querying this at the time, perhaps because they felt this might reduce the oil price before the election. I don't recall that it made much difference though, and Al Gore lost anyway! (seems that Romney could be Al Gore in reverse, he might win the overall vote but lose in the Electoral College!)
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
22 Oct 12
Well, this isn't a slam on Obama. I'm just paraphrasing what he said.
Obama claimed that gas prices were lower under Bush's waning moments because the economy collapsed. So if the gas prices are falling again, that must mean the economy is in the crapper like that floating turd that just won't go down. So if Obama says Bush was bad and wrong and all that, then Romney's gonna have a hell of a mess on his hands and a great scapegoat for the next four years.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
25 Oct 12
They'll still blame Bush..lol Our gas prices here are as high as anywhere else but our local, and state economies are lower now then four years ago. It is over 8% four years ago it hovered around 5.1% and it was stated in the paper that the amount of employable people no longer registering in the unemployment rate has jumped a 15%! How come our gas isn't lower? Not seeing it...
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
22 Oct 12
Gas prices are all politics here in Mexico. As most politicians get something off gas sales. it will never stop here. Even with the new president about to come in here.