reading what is written
By savypat
@savypat (20216)
United States
October 24, 2012 7:09am CST
Many times when I make a discussion that someone disagrees with it's a case of that person not reading the discussion correctly. Now I understand that many people here only have English as a second language and that accounts for some of this but when ever I have a really angry response I always read my original discussion to see if I have screwed it up. My spelling is not always so good, but usually my discussion is clear, if it's not I say I am sorry are repeat what I meant to say in the first place. If it's just a different point of view I often give my best response award. After all that is what the word discussion means. Everyone can contribute their views.
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15 responses
@millertime (1394)
• United States
24 Oct 12
That happens all the time here. It seems that there are a lot of people here on MyLot that don't understand the concept of "discussion". They only want to voice their opinions and have everyone else agree with them. They don't want to hear an opposing view or anyone put forth any kind of alternate thinking.
I had it happen recently, where the poster of the discussion didn't like what I had to say so he proceeded to sarcastically tell me that I was inferior to him because I didn't agree with his thinking. His view is that anyone that doesn't agree with him is automatically considered inferior, stupid, etc. and isn't worthy to have a discussion on his level.
The whole point of MyLot is to have discussions about just about anything and a sometimes spirited back and forth including opposing views is healthy and most times fun. Unfortunately, there are some that can't have that type of discussion without letting their emotions or arrogance cause them to be sarcastic, rude, insulting, degrading, etc. which spoils the whole experience for everyone. Hopefully, most people will see them for what they are and just avoid them altogether. I also hope that people will use the "-" button whenever they see that type of response and even the "!" button if it's really bad.
All we can do is try to avoid the rude people and have good discussions and fun with the rest.
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
24 Oct 12
Deliberate rudeness is the appropriate reason to mark someone negative. I am fortunate to not see that really often, but I always tell people that I use the negative button for negative behavior. Of course if the behavior is really out there I report it as abuse. It is unfortunate that we have some "superior and arrogant" users who make it unpleasant in our discussions.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Oct 12
hi GardeGerty yesit is m ost u nfortuate and I think they are f ew thank
goodness. I did report one user yesterday a s he went way way too far
insulting and calling her names. So I did report him . I do not do
very much reporting but this time it was way over the limits.He was
jusiong temrs that actually inferred she was a fool. that does not fly in Mylot.
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@sriroshan (2585)
• India
24 Oct 12
Even I have received such comment on my post like you even I agree if there is some mistake in my post. There is no harm in accepting if any mistake we makes in our post. But just for the sake of, without any reason if some one disagree what we have written, is really bad on other member part.What I feel we must do our work of posting our post and response to other members discussion fairly and if they have made any mistake in their post then write it so instead of just disagreeing with what they have written in the post.
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
24 Oct 12
I do not recall getting angry responses on any of my own discussions, but I have seen discussions where people seem to get a bit hot and testy with each other. If I know at least one of the users I try to intercede and clarify things if it is obvious where the disagreement comes from. You are right that all can offer their own opinions and views and that is what makes a discussion a discussion in the first place. I do not think people set out to deliberately annoy others or make them mad, but it does sometimes happen inadvertently.
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@silverfox09 (4708)
• United States
25 Oct 12
Also some discussion starter is confuse and when you reply they may get upset . I have experience what you are talking about , try not to make it bother me because maybe its just communication barrier .
I sometime try to explain what I say just in case it wasn't as clear as I thought .
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
24 Oct 12
As you stated, English is not everyone's first language. Even in the two countries most known for English speaking, it is used differently. So that means that even "native" speakers are not always using the same "English" with each other, which can cause some comprehension confusion.
Many times people use words with different meanings as if they were interchangeable. Some people have difficulty with concepts; the good thing about myLot as that we are all able to learn from each other if we are open and willing.
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@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)
• India
24 Oct 12
Hi friend, Some persons don't read the content properly and place their reply based on the title, it is the main reason for misunderstanding. Whereas some persons may misunderstand our thought and place their reply based on their understanding. Whatever the reason is we will get various kind of replies and opinions by creating topics here.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Oct 12
HI Savypat I have always thought your discussions were very clear to read so what is people's hang ups? If someone disagrees its up to them to do it in a respectful way and not with malice.Yes discussion does mean for us to all
give our points of view with keeping respect in mind always,.I h ave no
problem with others disagreeing as long as its done with respect and not
malice.I dislike angry responses and try to be civil at lest if not kind too'
to all people.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
25 Oct 12
I once got an angry response in a discussion and that person accused me of saying some bad things that I had never said. Those things were actually a part of the discussion, but it was another member who had written those things in their response, and the angry person mixed up that response and my introduction of the topic. I think that other kinds of misunderstandings happen as well for instance because we read the discussion too fast, because we are tired or because English isn't our first language. I always try to read the discussions carefully before I respond, but mistakes still happen sometimes and I have misunderstood topics in the past.
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@marguicha (223850)
• Chile
24 Oct 12
Many times I get angry when that happens, but I have discovered lately that sometimes in missread too. I don`t answer just anything because I want a cent, but probably something happens and I get distracted. Who knows! Now, when there is a longer answer, it seems that it is not just a lapse of concentration. And I have met people who think that a discussion is to reply the opposite to what the other person said. I just don`t mind them.
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@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
25 Oct 12
I guess this mostly happens, not getting the thought of the discussion first before posting their comments/views about a topic. Yes, they have read what is written but I guess some don't understand what is being discussed. Mylot have members worldwide and some of them including me considered English as our second language.
I will do the same thing, reread my started discussion and look for any word or sentence that could have offended others regarding my topic, if ever I received angry response. Anyway, it's just a discussion and we are entitled to our views about a topic but not to the extent of hurting the feelings of others.
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@knicnax (2233)
• Philippines
25 Oct 12
Yes you're right. A lot of us only use English as a second language. I think that's the beauty of mylot. You learn how to explain things in a way that everyone can understand, which in time will make you someone who can explain things in a simple and understandable way.
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@surekharathi (14146)
• India
25 Oct 12
My English is also poor but I understand most of the discussion only few discussion not understand then I ask the creator and they explain me in easy way so I understand and put my response there. My spelling and grammar is also not good many times but I heard from many mylotters my discussion always with clear explanation.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
26 Oct 12
I understand what you're saying. I also think that not only are they not reading the entire discussion, but it also has to do with as the responses go on, sometimes the discussion changes a bit as well. I have had a few of those half baked responses myself. But I guess that is par for the course on any site actually. I wouldn't get buts about it though.
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@besweet (9859)
• Ireland
24 Oct 12
I think that you manage the situation in a correct way. It has happened to me as well, to read a discussion fast and miss the point, so I responded something irrelevant or opposite! It can happen to everyone!
I also find it interesting to read different points of view. Sometimes, the different points of view are the most honest responses! So they should be appreciated accordingly :)
Nice discussion!
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
26 Oct 12
I do agree with you that there are some times that the responses that do seem to be taken out of context and I honestly do believe that the main reason that this happens is because of the fact that there are so many mylotters that are not native English speakers. However, I also do think that there are some times that a discussion is really more of a debate and in those situations I believe that people get empassioned with their point of view on those more debate type of topics.