Perhaps this is how it should be
By p1kef1sh
@p1kef1sh (45681)
November 12, 2012 2:04am CST
Matriarchal women are managers and administrators, who organise the economy not according to the profit principle, where an individual or a small group of people benefits; rather, the motivation behind their action is motherliness. The profit principle is an ego-centred principle, where individuals or a small minority take advantage of the majority of people. The principle of motherliness is the opposite, where altruism reigns and the well being of all is at the centre. It is at the same time a spiritual principle, which humans take from nature. Mother Nature cares for all beings, however different they may be. The same applies for the principle of motherliness: a good mother cares for all her children in spite of their diversity.
Could this be an acceptable alternative to our current capitalist system. One that rewards all and not just the few.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
12 Nov 12
Something like that would not work because of human nature. When everyone is rewarded, there is no incentive to better yourself or try to reach your potential. A segment of the population will realize that they'll be taken care of regardless of their efforts so they'll make no effort and others will have to take up the slack.
In capitalism it's true that a relative few prosper much more than the masses. But those few are who start companies that employ people and provide jobs as well as goods. Who would create and maintain employment in the Mother Nature economy?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
12 Nov 12
You are right, we are conditioned so much by our current ideas that this is alien and hard to understand. For instance, when I first read your post I immediately thought of communism or socialism. Reading it again before I replied I saw that it wasn't that at all but more like cooperate-ism. Still, I replied with capitalism in mind. Accepting a completely new idea, or at least one that hasn't been practiced widely, can be hard to do when the concept is so different. I'll be looking up the Seychelles, thanks. I'll learn something new today.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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12 Nov 12
The whole Economy under a matriarchal system is a local community based economy. To our mind that is entirely alien and involves us setting aside our current notions of what constitutes 'success'. Think about your children. They are different characters but you raised them to be cooperative and mutually supportive I imagine. You did not raise them to be selfish and mindless of the needs of those less able. The whole point is that those that are disinclined to participate through idleness won't be tolerated. In a mutually dependent society everyone has their role. It does work - the Seychelles for example. But we are conditioned not to think of alternatives, just to want more from dwindling assets.
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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
12 Nov 12
I'm not sure that it could work because the world at large is primarily dominated by men.
Within certain societies, men dominate outside of the home while women run everything within the household economy. I'm of Italian descent; my grandfather was an immigrant where my grandmother was an orphan. He went out and worked while she handled everything at home. She even doled out an allowance to him! My mother tried to be the same way, but there were two major differences: 1) she chose to work outside of the home, and 2) she did not marry an Italian.
For a true matriarchal society to work, I think there would have to be a total role-reversal between men and women, and to be honest, I don't see that happening anytime soon. We have adapted to our traditional roles over many years, and until men can BEAR a child, I seriously doubt we'll see a change.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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12 Nov 12
I live like your Italian grandfather! LOL.
I don't think that there has to be a total role reversal. But there would have to be a more cooperative attitude between both men and women. I could not see this happening over night but if we were just to take a few baby steps the world might be a little better.
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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
12 Nov 12
LOL, does that mean your wife irons your skivvies too? But seriously, this type of rule may work in the home, but I'm not quite sure how it could work for all of society.
It seems that when someone promises to take total care of a segment of society, it becomes more like a cult or a dictatorship, rather than a democracy that will fulfill its promise to care for you. I'm having flashbacks of Jim Jones and his followers (probably because I watched a documentary recently).
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@AnnieOakley1 (5596)
• Canada
12 Nov 12
Yes, definitely. I think this method would be much more beneficial to the majority.
@GreenMoo (11833)
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12 Nov 12
Mother Nature is also sometimes cruel. I've just been clearing up the remains of a nest of baby rabbits which a rat had been into, ripping the babies apart then leaving them. Mother Nature allows the strong to prey on the weak. It's the way life is, but sometimes people forget it. Let's not copy her example completely.
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
13 Nov 12
I wish I'd looked at this discussion before I tackled your other one. This covers a lot of what I was thinking (in the background) when I suggested universal female emancipation.
I would certainly agree in principle, although I would point out that there is a minority of men who would be just as useful in these terms, and a minority of matriarchal women who would fit best with the current status quo (Thatcher and Palin come to mind).
In anthopology we learn that most "peasant" economies ran on a basis of altruism - e.g. nobody goes hungry unless everybody goes hungry. Then there is the potlach principle which the British banned Native Americans from using because it was the antithesis of capitalist thinking, in which the tribe's "Big Man" (to use a PNG term generically) annually helds a big party and gave away his wealth to even up the playing field. I am also reminded of an anthropologist in Thailand, who found one of his informants bewailing the fact that three of her four pigs had been slaughtered. He later found out that having four pigs had made her insufferably smug and hoity toity, so the rest of the village decided to put her back in her place.
Lash