See What Christians Miss by Not 'Submitting to Allah'?

Not Jesus-&-friends... Rather those who tried to kill Jesus. After all the entire New testament does not contain a single word written by Jesus or any of his 12 disciples.

Really? So you know for a fact that Paul didn't write all those letters?

No. But it teaches that G-d gave Jesus all the powers the Bible describes Him having. And says that he was given the same message to deliver as all the other messengers. Jesus-&-friends just capitalized on them a little better!

mythociate, there's nothing in the Bible about sitting on clouds and strumming harps.

At the end of the day, We don't marry little girls especially cousins and nieces and we dont believe in a heaven where you can marry 72 virgins.

I know. You sit on clouds and strum harps as people drive down golden roads. So do I.

Grap, you have every right to disagree and I have no problem with that at all. So, all I can say is keep on sinning on Jesus account!!.. good luck.

Naseem, obviously I totally dissagree with you about nobody being able to take the burden of our wrongs. Jesus does exactly that!

Jesus showed us that it's exactly like being G-d's child---no matter what you do, you'll always be his child ... even though you WON'T be his child while you're 'forsaking' his kingdom for your own---the lesson of the Parable of the Prodigal Son.

What grace? That somebody else has taken your burden? Is that a grace or a deception? As for Muslims Allah is so very Merciful... 39:53 Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful."

Naseem, what deception? Surely the Bible was written before the Koran and therefore must be more reliable in what it says about Jesus. If Allah is so forgiving, why do suiside bombers blow themselves up to be sure of getting into heaven (I'm sure they will very dissapointed with the afterlives they actually get)?

Right. I am not angry at Allah, and didn't even try to hurt him (not even 'just because he cannot BE hurt'); so I'm not giving him any reason to hurt me. And if he decides to anyway for some reason, that's his choice.

You should focus your reading more on the New Testament... The Old Testament can be deceiving for "begginers" like you and me. I m a Christian myself and my religion as i know is nothing close to what you re saying here. Still not getting your point thou what seems to be the issue ? That God takes care of all of us ? or that Jesus loves us ?

But in Bible-studies my fellow Christians are always all-about "G-d sent Y`shua to US" & "Jesus loves ME, this I know; For the Bible tells me so" even Y`shua says 'G-d takes care of even the little sparrow; how much more do you think you're worth?'

The point---that Christians care first about themselves and THEN about others.

Graptopetalum, your comment about the Holy Qur'an is a rant itself and speaks more of you than anything else. A prophet in Islam is not as in Christianity, it is very strong, very righteous person. Not a sinner like your book tells you. Jesus was just a prophet and he is different because the God made him different. He did not die because God decided that. He will come back when God will want so. We believe these are all miracles performed by God alone. If you have a problem with that, you should complain to God not to Muslims. We are ordinary people and have no means to interfere in Gods plans. If quoting from the Qur'an does not prove anything to you, let me quote from your book; Acts 2:22 Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. John 8:28 I do nothing of myself John 14:28 My Father is greater that I Mark 12:29 The Lord our God is one Lord Mark 15:34 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Luke 23:46 Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit

samar, if Jesus was just a prophet, why was he born to a virgin? Why did he not die (according to Islam)? Why will he return? Surely these are not characteristics of any other propeht (Enoch and Elijah didn't die - it's uncertain if they will return but they weren't born to virgins)! Quoting the Qu'ran proves nothing! It's meerly the rants of a mad false prophet.

We believe him as a great prophet , we believe that he raised to the Heaven , and will come down to earth in time of end , not more than that , this is the truth that we know , How can I believe that jesus is a god or son , when God tell us that : [112.1:5] Say: 'He is Allah, the One, the called upon. Who has not given birth, and has not been born, and there is none equal to Him. " [19.88:95] And they say: 'The Merciful has taken a son. 'Surely, you have brought a monstrous thing! Thereby the heavens are nearly torn and the earth split asunder, and mountains fall crashing downbecause they have ascribed a son to the Merciful.It is not for the Merciful to take a son! There is none in the heavens and earth except he comes to the Merciful as a worshiper.He has counted them and exactly numbered all; and each one shall come to Him on the Day of Resurrection, alone." [2.116] They say: 'Allah has taken (to Himself) a son. ' Exaltations to Him (Allah). For Him is what is in the heavens and the earth, all are obedient to Him. [2.117] Creator of the heavens and the earth! When He decrees a thing, He only says: 'Be, ' and it is. " [2.163] Your God is One God. There is no god except He. He is the Merciful, the Most Merciful. " [5.72:75] The unbelievers are those who say: 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary. ' But the Messiah said: 'Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. ' He who associates anything with Allah, Allah has indeed forbidden Paradise to him, and his abode shall be in the Fire. The harmdoers shall have no helpers. Indeed those who say: 'Allah is the third of the Trinity' became unbelievers. There is but One God. If they do not desist in what they say, a painful punishment will afflict those of them that disbelieve. Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and ask His forgiveness? He is Forgiving, Merciful. The Messiah, the son of Mary, was not except a Messenger, other Messengers had gone before him. His mother was in the state of sincerity, they both ate food. See how We make plain to them Our signs. Then, see how perverted they are. " http://youtu.be/khfkFmY5dbI

And you don't think we are?

We are ... about as much as I'm a child of Napoleon Hill because I teach what he taught about money.

No, Peter & John & Paul's lawyering-around with Jesus' biography convinces Christians that they are children of G-d!

So you see Islam like I see it & -Buddhism ... as tools to add onto Christianity (Buddhism in order to know which direction to go when you have a choice, Islam as the reason why you go forward in that direction or stop-&-wait)?

jazel, do you believe that Mohammad was a prophet? If you do, surely you should be a Muslim. If not, then as he claimed to be a prophet, he must have been a false prophet and therefore a servant of Satan. Can you really think that there's nothing wrong with following the Satanic deception of a false prophet?

samar, this was actually worded as a line of logical reasoning, rather than being an actual statement about Mohammad. I don't tell lies about him, I say what I honestly believe to be the truth: that he was a lying, mad, murderer, polygamist, pedophile, anti-Semite, terrorist and false prophet.

" he must have been a false prophet and therefore a servant of Satan." grap , Please stop your lies about Muhammad peace be upon him .

"Not my will but thine be done," Jesus said to Our Father. If that's not the mantra of 'total submission,' I don't know what is!

"power to change the unchangeable," power to keep our minds off of our current hardships ... whatever.

You have to base the full books to know about God Almighty.Read New testament of the Bible also along with the Koran to understand the mercy of God.Don't read half and say opinions or react on those opinions.We will together stand in unity to explain the great mercy of God through Jesus Christ to our Muslim brothers.Let us pray together to Almighty to open our brothers eyes to understand this great mercy.Prayer has great power to change the unchangeable.That is what Jesus taught us.

murkie, Muslims are condemning others for their beliefs all the time.

@Graptopetalum yes you are right.because in Islamic countries just like in middle-east specially Saudi Arabia the center of islam religion.non-muslim are not allowed to practiced or do their religion.If the police caught them,they go to jail and being charged of illegal gatherings.Is islam respects the other religions just like christianity??In non islamic countrys,islam or muslims can practice their religion and even construct their mosque.But in Saidi arabia other religions are not permitted.Is that the respect of islam in other religions.Who is selfish now???

uh yeah.. haven't thought of that really.. if we are to rely on media..

You know a selfless person wont act holier than thou on the internet and call out and generalize a different group of people and accuse them of being selfish because he thinks is belief is better. So he will go down online and call people selfish while being intolerant. A selfless person doesn't have a high self entitlement and claim superiority. A selfless person is someone who gives back to the community by helping people in need regardless of where they came from. A selfless person will let go of material things and will rather try to make other people happy.

Exactly! Dug into their little fortresses, peeking only through the little eye-slits that religion entrusts to them; anything massive looks like nothing but a big dark mob!

Pose, what if certain people are not willing to respect and love others but insist that others respect them?

squallming, we may not know for sure before we die or Judgement Day comes (whichever happens first) but we can assess the evidence. Which book is better written, the Bible or Koran. Which has prophecies refering to things like nuclear weapons and comet impacts? Anybody can say, "I'm a prophet/god." Getting others to testify to the fact is another matter.

Amen