Why Are Top Brass In Trouble -- Possible Coop
By Fatcat44
@Fatcat44 (1141)
United States
November 14, 2012 12:34am CST
I have all of a sudden start hearing people asking why some of the top brass is getting shutdown in Washington by one of the most popular tactics in politics?
The answer that start coming up start involving the words "military coop."
Did Obama and partner's come across the dealing of top military commanders and CIA pre-planning against him, if the need arise?
Or is Obama looking at removing some of the top brass and trying to replace with some of his own "radical" people? Remember, Obama started his political career in Bill Ayers' front room. This thought starts to make be worry. Then you through on top of it, that Obama was a register communist, and was in the house of people such as Frank Marshall Davis. This starts get nerve racking, real fast.
What else could be going on here? These are the two scenarios that I can come up with.
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5 responses
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
14 Nov 12
Well, if you are trying to figure out what happened or why, there are so many possible theories, you are spoiled for choice.
It could be anything from simple "men behaving badly" to some sort of military purge (something dictators do to reduce resistance to their assumption of power).
However you look at it, it is odd that the FBI knew about it so long and did nothing, it is odd that Petraeus suddenly resigned just days before he was scheduled to testify. There are many things that could be held over Petraeus' head to keep him in line, up to and including denying his military pension if he were dishonorably discharged, etc.
I think it all has to do with Benghazi but the exact scenario is not yet clear. It will only become clear if Petraeus tells us the real story, and he might not ever do that.
Keep in mind that Obama is not yet elected. He is not officially elected until the electoral college casts its votes in December. They are not bound to vote as the popular vote in their states. If the president were proved to have been involved in something impeachable then it could always be possible for them to refuse to cast their votes for him. If a scandal, crime or treasonous action were heinous enough, then they might not.
So, there's another theory for you.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
16 Nov 12
Petraeus said (in sworn testimony today)that his briefing to Congress (earlier) was changed, he said he attributed the Benghazi attack to terror in that briefing and yet it was reported he attributed it to the video.
It is already established that Amb. Rice was sent out by the White House and that even though the White House KNEW it was terror, they gave her intel that pointed to a video.
It is becoming clearer and clearer that the White House wanted the American people to think this was the result of a video and not an al qaeda attack.
Now we need to get to the bottom of WHO issued the order to stand down when our people so cleary asked for back up. Once we learn that, I do believe Obama is toast, since in his own words he accepts responsibility for what transpired.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
16 Nov 12
It is MY OPINION that Petreaus outed himself so he could tell the truth. He accepted his career was over so he would not have this hanging over his head by the White House, who very clearly KNEW about this affair as early as late September. I believe that other Generals (Admirals too) such as Ham were told to keep quiet over their orders to stand down and removed from their posts to keep them quiet.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
14 Nov 12
How about the culture of corruption in the administration. From the beginning you had Sect of Treasury who signed a statement saying he would pay his taxes and then did not but was "too" important not to confirm because the country needed him and h is expertise. What about the Stimulus package that was to produce millions of jobs and get unemployment to below 5%, only to find out the shovel ready jobs were not there. But the government invested in solar and electric cars that went bankrupt many of whom were big supporters of the President. How about the "Official Trips" taken by the president and his family that included a trip to Spain where there was lunch with the Royal Family and several days of sightseeing to help a friend get over the loss of her husband. Or the trip to Africa where it was a great honor to meet with a leader in the anti Aparthide movement and a a private safari for the family and friends. When the Attorney General is caught in a cover up and the President suddenly at the last minute invokes "Executive Privilege" to kill the investigation. Why shouldn't the generals think that an affair would not be treated the same and overlooked.
The one question I don't see being asked is how can a private citizen ask the FBI to investigate a simple case of cyber bulling between two people? If that is the case will the FBI investigate me if what I post on my lot is deemed offensive or hurtful to some one else and they claim I am being a "cyber bully"?
@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
15 Nov 12
Well, we all know they're corrupt-- especially the current tenants in 1600 Penn. Ave. As to the FBI being involved, when you are involved with the military-- like a military spouse, informal ambassador to the troops, hob nobbing with generals etc, yep. They'll investigate cyber bullying. Whether they do for regular people, I don't know-- I think they only get involved if it's stalking over state lines or something. But I will say-- I think Patraeus was far to intelligent to send dirty emails to a mistress. You don't get to be a 4 star by being that stupid. There's already questions as to whether the emails supposedly sent by Broadwell to the other dame were actually FROM her. You can make an email look like it came from anywhere, quite easily-- hackers are good at that. I see two scenarios vis a vis Patraeus and the affair:
If it wasn't his first affair, he was sneaky enough to manage to make 4 star without ever being caught-- highly unlikely.
If it was his first affair, he was a 4 star AND was already starting the affair when he got tapped for CIA-- which was a convenient sideways promotion, because even though he was retired Army, he was ARMY. Dangerous to have out of sight, for corrupt officials. So, where do you stick him? In the FBI he would be able to investigate domestic issues-- in the CIA, he couldn't, so CIA was a safe spot--until Benghazi. And back to the affair-- if it was his first, he would have been MORE than careful, he would have been paranoid-- and given the amount of digging they do when they appoint a CIA head, they couldn't have NOT known something wasn't right-- I think there was an affair. But I DON'T think all these "emails" existed-- until they needed to.
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
16 Nov 12
With this corrupt admin anything is possible. I think its very convenient that all this crap happened after everybody (the American public - not the news media) was asking questions about the attack on our Embassy. I've learned more about how Gen. Petraus likes his women than I've learned about anything the Dumbama admin has done to stop any type of attack on the US.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
14 Nov 12
A chicken coop d'etat?
I don't know.
It seems like things like these put a bigger stink on a president whose administration isn't transparent. Bush had to deal with a lot of the same stuff in terms of people thinking they were always covering up something or working the long con.
The biggest wrong I believe that went on here was pressuring or political favors going on to keep these things under wraps until after the election. That's bad enough in my opinion. And it's sad to think that an involved press could have uncovered a lot of garbage, but Fox and right-wing talk radio already had too many angles to play, and big papers like the Times and networks like NBC and CBS wouldn't dare delve into any matters Obama.
I don't believe we're looking at any type of coup in the works. Everything just happens to look shady under Obama to people who don't worship at his feet.
@haojie_yu (88)
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14 Nov 12
Maybe the top brass get themself in trouble just because them did something wrong.