My friend can mess up the healthiest dishes!
@macdingolinger (10386)
United States
November 24, 2012 10:31am CST
I eat healthy as a general rule. My friend comes over a lot and we enjoy some of the same foods. But she has this terrible habit. I can make some fresh bread and she swabs butter all it! She wants to put canned fruit in my fresh fruit salad. She want to put meat in her green beans or cook things in bacon grease instead of the olive oil I have. And she adds salt to EVERYTHING! and that's just the start! I tell her that she can mess up the healthiest foods! Do any of you have friends like that who can mess up healthy food options?
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@Arieles (2473)
• United States
24 Nov 12
I can relate to everything you are saying. When I make a salad, I want it to be full of fresh fruit and especially pineapple. When I make green beans, all I need is a dash of Mrs. Dash. If people would eat fresh and wholesome foods, their taste buds would change. Yes, at first it will take some getting use to, but fresh green beans are soooo good! I haven't eaten pork in almost three years, and I've been vegan for a little over a year. My Mom wants all kinds of bacon grease and fried foods, and I just want something wholesome and fresh.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
So you understand! I do not use seasonings with salt in them as a general rule. when I make fresh green beans I only want onions and a little salt in them. Not my friend she has to add butter! lol. My mom still doesn't get the idea that I do not like meat. I do not think I could go totally vegan though.
@marguicha (222856)
• Chile
24 Nov 12
I don`t think why it should bother you so much if she does not put more salt, butter or canned fruit in the dishes you are eating. Different people have different taste buds. And while it is true that we can "teach" our taste bugs, we have to want to do it first. How would you feel if she said the you have this "terrible" habit of not eating meat (the best protein, so they say) or that your salads are tasteless because they lack the needed salt? When I cook, specially now that I`m older and so are myy friends, I cook with little salt, but put some on the table if anyone wants some.
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@marguicha (222856)
• Chile
25 Nov 12
It is a well known fact that legumes don`t have each complete proteins as meats and some dairy products do. But you can mix them so that you concoct all the proteins we must have each day. In my country, old ladies had these recipes for legumes that I thought were just done that way because they tasted good. Upon examination, they had a mix that made best protein recipe. After that, I accept that old meds can be very good. You never know. As for nut, my doctor only lets me have them ground. I have diverticulosis, something very usual in old people
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
No we just have a good natured joke going on. She always adds salt or butter neither of which do I ever use. I do not believe that meat is the "best" protein at all though. Eggs, nuts and beans are all much leaner forms of protein and offer lots more vitamins and minerals than meat does. Until she started coming over I rarely had meat in my house lol!
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
26 Nov 12
Adding butter to bread doesn't bother me, but putting ketchup on anything other than fry's chips hamburger or hot dogs really gets my goat. I'm a great cook and don't appreciated it. Adding salt before tasting is just as rude. It is like saying that you under salted the food. I always taste my food fist. Rarely does anything need more salt. Never bacon grease. yuck.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
26 Nov 12
It's rude to put sauce on it is a good cut or if he has seasoned it, but if it's just on the grill I can see doing it.
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
26 Nov 12
My brother in law gets really upset if you put steak sauce on his steaks! lol. He says he makes them perfect and they do not need anything else added! I do not add a lot of salt so I can really see her needing to add salt to the things I cook!
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
24 Nov 12
No, I don't have such friends.
If she's really your friend, she will eat the food you cook and be appreciative of the good food and good company. If she insists upon meddling with your cooking in your home... Well, one can only hope that she has some other qualities that make her a worthy friend, since she is being very rude about the food.
A hostess has the duty to try to serve things that are reasonable. For instance, you don't cook green beans in lard, serve them to a vegetarian, and insist that they are "meatless" and, therefore, fit to eat. You don't staple bacon to a turkey and plop it before Jewish or Muslim guests. However, there is no responsibility to "junk up" healthy cooking; it is offensive that a guest would try to insist upon such a thing!
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
It's kind of funny here because she stays here a lot and we cook our meals separately! We do things like salads and things together though. But like you said you cannot put bacon grease in green beans and think they are vegetarian! (one of my pet peeves) She uses butter in green beans where I just use a little salt and onion. It's mostly little stuff and we are not fighting over it I just make it a joke that she can mess up anything healthy! lol
@victorywp (3524)
• United States
26 Nov 12
hi macdingolinger,
did you taste whatever that she cooked? or did you eat the food after whatever unhealthy ingredients she put into your healthy dishes? maybe you should just eat your own food and stay away from eating all those food that she had messed up.
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@victorywp (3524)
• United States
27 Nov 12
that's great, macdingolinger. at least she doesn't mess up yours and you still can eat healthily!
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
26 Nov 12
That is pretty much what we do - I cook a dish and then she can add to hers whatever extras she wants to! lol I just do not eat a lot of fatty grease and things like that - and I do not eat meat either. She likes to put bacon in her veggies and mess them all up!lol..So I cook good foods then she messes them up to her own taste!
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
26 Nov 12
Actually, the bread is worse for you than the butter. It's carbs that are the problems. Carbohydrates are the obesity makers.
Whole wheat, or other low carb breads are the best alternative, but butter is just fine. I know it's popular to say no to butter, but there's nothing wrong with it.
Think about it like this. Which is fat, a cow that eats grain, or a mountain lion that eats meat?
Meat is good for you. You'll stay thin and fit. Grain, especially high carb grains, and worse processed sugars, that's bad.
Be like the trim fit mountain lion, not like the fat grass eating cow.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
26 Nov 12
Butter is a byproduct of the veal industry. The veal industry is very cruel.
There is a bigger difference between cows and lions than food. Cows basically hang out and don't move much whereas lions run and catch their prey. Cows raised for food are given massive doses of hormones and fed grains at a feed lot. There is nothing healthy about the way they are raised. All farm raised meats are unhealthy. Look at the difference between cows and wild venison. Deer are lean and trim with a low fat content.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
26 Nov 12
Meat does not hurt you but it is not good for me. And my breads are all whole grain selections that I make myself so they are wholesome and hearty. I do not eat too much bread, but when I do I do not put fat (butter) on it! I use a little butter but not much I generally prefer olive oil to using butter.I am working on getting off the processed sugars right now!
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
28 Nov 12
I have to agree that for the most part (most) farm raised animals are likely not too healthy. But there is a farm here in Oklahoma which raises them more natural. Braum's allows cows to graze on their dairy farm. If they have not made changes in the last few years I would say that they probably have one of the healthiest farming systems around.. maybe their butter would be better for us!
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
28 Nov 12
Well what I have learned over the course of time is that what is healthy and good to one person might not be what another person is wanting and looking for, and maybe not even consider Good food to them. I know many times since tastes differ, it should be important when enjoying a meal together learning to compromise some. But the extra SALT is not good for anyone, and so is adding the Bacon grease even though it is good.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
28 Nov 12
My friend and I laugh about our differences a lot! I'll get something made up and then she'll ask for something to add to it! lol.. We eat very differently. I do not have an adrenal gland or a gall bladder so I think I probably have some special needs in the dietary area! While meat is not my best option it may be fine for others!
@AmbiePam (92488)
• United States
28 Nov 12
My grandmother! My mom's mom is a wonderful cook, but she'll kill you with diabetes if you live with her long. And that always made my mom to be conscious to cook healthy when she had her own family. But I remember when my grandparents would come to see us and my mom would be fixing dinner. My grandma would exclaim how healthy everything looked and then proceed to butter everything under the sun, and add bacon to anything that looked like it would be better once mixed in. We were like, uh, you know it ceases to be healthy when you do that....
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
28 Nov 12
Haha! That's so funny - without being funny at all! my friend often comments on my "health foods" too.. right before she puts butter or bacon on it! lol.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Honestly, I don't know of anyone that ruins all of the healthy food options that we have available. However, my children don't tend to prefer the healthy dishes that I serve, they would just as soon have something presented to them as a choice that is a convenience food that has come from a can.
Now on the salt deal, I have to admit that I do use salt on many of my foods. However, I recently learned that this is actually something that is good to do as it is possible to get physically ill because you don't have enough salt in your diet. My sister-in-law was off of work for almost a month because she was inexplicably passing out. After a battery of medical tests, the conclusion was that she simply was not ingesting enough salt in her diet. Besides that, if salt really was terrible for us, why would they use 5% NaCl in fluids that patients are given in hospitals.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Yes - actually my friend and I discussed the lack of salt issue not long ago. I use some salt and like to grab things like pickles every now and then. i just do not cook "out of the box" much. That's the kind of salt that is harmful.
@doroffee (4222)
• Hungary
24 Nov 12
I have a principle, which is like... I'm going to tell anyone how to live unless it's really putting someone's life in imminent danger. I have friends with junker taste than mine (but I have to tell you I'm not a healthy food freak, and I can enjoy a pack of crisps like anyone else :D), but it's not going to make them that much unhealthy or sick. I'm gonna tell them if I see their health deteriorating, but otherwise I don't feel the right to tell anyone what to do with the food, unless they are messing up the one I'm preparing for myself or for the two of us, not only theirs.
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@marguicha (222856)
• Chile
24 Nov 12
That`s a good way to relate to other people. You cannot impose your ways, unless you accept that they impose theirs too.
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
I don't tell her anything really. We laugh about it a lot because I'll start describing a dish and then she will say how good it sounds and then talk about adding something that is not healthy! lol
@hereandthere (45645)
• Philippines
25 Nov 12
it's like 2 steps forward and 1 step backward.
we have a local dish called tinola which is chicken with vegetables in clear soup. it is flavored with salt, ginger and whole black pepper, plus green papaya and leaves of the chili plant (dahon ng sili). we have substituted chayote/sayote and pechay (a green and white vegetable called bokchoy, chinese cabbage, etc). if i happen to be the cook, i forgo the first phase which is to saute the chicken in garlic, onion, ginger in cooking oil and just boil it.
my mother also like steaming some food instead of boiling or frying them.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
That's the kinds of things I like to do to make a meal healthy. But no matter how I prepare the meal, she almost always adds something unhealthy to it! lol.. it's our running joke!
@joycseer (845)
• Malaysia
25 Nov 12
Hi macdingolinger, i like your healthy dish! I am sure your friend is at lost to miss your healthy food.
Some people have different taste buds. They prefer something more tastier. They don't like healthy food, because healthy food aren't tasty. They like it with more salt, more sugar, more sauce, instead of just plain or fresh food.
You don't have to get upset with them. It takes time for them to change, and they need to be educated why eating healthily is important. If she really messes up your healthy dishes, then get her a bowl and split her portion for her. She can do anything she wants with her portion, but others remain eating their healthy dishes. So, it doesn't upset everyone's portion.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Neither of us are upset at all! We laugh about it actually. However, my dishes are not without spice and they do have lots of flavor. I just take my flavor from real items like onions, peppers, garlic and a wide variety of spices!
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
25 Nov 12
I'd like to coin a phrase here like the one similar to the 'another man's trash is another man's treasure'...'another man's healthy food is another man's junk food'. Do you think that would apply in this situation? Everyone has different tastes in food and perhaps your friend just doesn't realize you have such different tastes. It may be normal for her to salt food, butter bread, and add different seasonings to foods because of the way she was raised. Is your friend obese or unhealthy? If so, perhaps a scrap book of your tasty recipe alternatives would make her a nice present.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Haha! Perhaps you are right I could give her a eating healthy cookbook for Christmas! I bet if I did though, she would read through every recipe and tell me what "needed" to be added to the dish - and every item would make the dish less healthy! lol I really think it's the way she was raised. But I do know that our taste buds can be retrained so that we can enjoy a healthier diet! lol
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
25 Nov 12
No because we don't share our tastes and food. Eat what you eat and I eat what I want to eat. She can taste my food and if she wants to put on something more it is her choice, it is her plate. That's quite odd to mess with someone's preparation. She can take her share if she wants and do a lot of things of whatever to it. It is rude for me.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
We pretty well understand each other. I usually make a dish and then she will add whatever she wants to it. She also knows I try to eat healthy and sometimes leaves items out of stuff she makes so that I am not hurting my body too.
@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
24 Nov 12
Thanks a ton for sharing this discussion. Well i can understand your situation and i know your mood must be getting turned off after seeing her activities before having food. I think she is a bit excited before having food and hence she is adding every thing at one go. I think u should tell her to taste the food before and after the addition and tell her which one she likes the most. I m sure she will choose the former one and would realize her mistakes.
What say?
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
We have a running joke about it actually. Sometimes I'll ask her to just taste it before she starts adding all her junk! lol. We laugh about it a lot too. She is always grabbing butter or salt or adding bacon or ham! I always give her a hard time about messing up my healthy dishes!
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
24 Nov 12
Sounds like my sister... but she ruins all foods by putting crazy spice son them. I hate to have a steak with all her spices on it.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
I do like spices, but the real ones without salt. I do not eat meat very often except lately I have had more - hope to change that though! I hate going places and they expect you to eat their meat and you are a vegetarian! lol...
@chellakutty (69)
• India
24 Nov 12
ya many of my frens ll give tips abt the heathy food..n the taste ll be too good if we prepare....
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
I believe we can eat tasty foods that are healthy as well without all the added ingredients. It is a matter of learning to eat that way and enjoy it. It may take a little bit of time but it can be done!
@habibti320 (925)
• United States
24 Nov 12
Sometimes it's nice to eat unhealthy and go for the taste. I don't want to make my friends feel bad about enjoying delicious food. However, it's only really a problem if we're cooking together a lot (so it is affecting too much of my diet) OR if I feel concerned for my friend's health and he/she refuses to try healthier options now and then.
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@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
25 Nov 12
We cook together a lot, but have started making our own separate meals since I do not like all the fats in my foods. We tease each other about it all the time! I am always laughing at how she can add some ingredient to make a dish less healthy!