Why Do People Do This?

Valdosta, Georgia
November 24, 2012 1:28pm CST
This topic was inspired by another one... If you allow someone to live with you, do you complain later about bills and food for the house? Or do you offer them a place to really help them? Right now I have my cousin and her son living with us. We offered her a place and we don't yell at her to get a job to pay for things, we don't yell at her to watch the electric and water usage, we don't get mad when she eats something we bought...It's not like that. We offered them a place because we WANTED to help! We have plenty of things to complain about, we didn't ask her to stay for something else to complain about like some people do! I just don't understand why people tell people they can stay and do nothing but b*tch about everything the person does!!
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• United States
24 Nov 12
Hi Loving. Im glad you feel you can help. How long would you be willing to support someone? maybe you will never be sorry for helping. I think everyone who does this should have a clear mind as to what they are getting themselves into. I really think people do want to help, but they don't expect to fully support them if they are able to work but won't get up off the couch and try. When the water bill escalates $100 over normal and you don't have the money to pay it, it might make a person rethink their decision to open the door to them. I offered a friend a home with me and a now ex husband. They were getting it on while I was asleep. That was the end of a marriage and a friendship.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Nov 12
That's the kind of people I am talking about PQ... The ones that ask you to stay with them or tell you that you can but then make you feel unwelcome or unwanted. What's the point of that?
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
I do know that I can help and honestly no I will never stop helping people, ever. Lol. That is just the way I am. I am not talking about supporting someone forever. My cousin is starting her job on Monday. What I am talking about is people who ask people to stay with them and then complain every day they are there. Well, why did you bother helping in the first place then??? Oh wow, that is HORRIBLE! I'm sorry PQ! I knew the bills would definitely go up but once she starts working she said she would start helping money wise too. I am not talking about dealing with laziness because that I understand is annoying! But when the person is doing their part and working, why are people complaining about them?
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• United States
25 Nov 12
I stayed 3 months with my best friend several years ago. I had lost my social security and had to appeal their decision, and while I was waiting I stayed with my friend. I lost my home and everything.my presence was annoying to her after a few days. When I got my back pay I paid her $1200 and then moved out of her house. She made me feel I wasn't wanted there, but she asked me to stay.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
24 Nov 12
I partly agree with you and partly do not. Now I am not talking about the yelling but I am talking about how hospitatlity one can be. Personally I would only take other people in my house under certain conditions. First of all my house rules will count and should be respected. Also they have to clean up their own mess and help out with the housekeeping. I also do not accept lazy people hanging around (in bed for hours or on the couch watching tv whole day) while I am working like a ... and serve them by cooking, cleaning, doing the laundry etc. If someone is offering you a home, to help you out this is something you should be happy with. Also it is your responsibility to get back on your own feet and work for that! So you go look for a job, you pay of your debts, you make plans for your future and you do not parasite on people with a good heart. If you let someone without a house/food do nothing whole day on and serve them you only teach them that they can get everything for free if they do nothing anymore. There is no reason to yell about that but before you do a good deed you better think it over twice. And if you set rules and discuss that with the ones you want to help. So both know how to act, how to respect eachother. This way you won't be disappointed or get the feeling sooner or later you are abused, you are the one who has to pay for everything and the friendship just comes from one side!
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
Yes I know what your saying. I would not allow laziness all the time either. My cousin is doing her part. She has been looking for a job and should be getting one starting Monday so I don't mind her staying here at all. She doesn't make a problem for me at all. If the person did absolutely nothing and never helped with anything than I can understand them complaining but the one on the other post works and does her part as well, yet the people are upping the rent and complaining...I just don't understand this kind of thinking... There is no reason to complain if the person is doing their part. You knew the bills would be more the day you said they could stay! I knew that, and my husband knew that too. It is common sense! Lol.
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@mydanods (6513)
• Nigeria
25 Nov 12
take a cue from Kitty. Try to find out if they appreciate the sacrifice you have made. if they don't, then you'll regret it. try to point it out to them that you expect one or two responsibilities from them, without being urged. make them know how much it costs you to be making this sacrifice. by such discussions, you will better understand if you are doing something wrong.
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@GardenGerty (160708)
• United States
24 Nov 12
Some people are not happy unless they are complaining, and they would complain if they won a million dollars. It is just how they function. I personally would be very self conscious about complaining about a guest in my home and I would not do it. I also tend to not want to air all my complaints and dirty laundry on the internet. I hope your cousin and son appreciate what you are doing for them.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
I agree with you, some people HAVE to complain about something in life in order to feel complete or happy with themselves. This really annoys me! Lol. I don't complain either about the guests I invited into my home. If I did not want them here I would not have asked them to come. And she is looking for a job and everything... She does what she can too so I don't mind at all having her here...
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Hi Lovin, Well I have let people stay with me in order to help them out and it's fine if I'm actually helping them get on their feet and they do appreciate the help as your cousin seems to. I also realize my costs go up some as a result. What I find happens all too often is that the person takes advantage and will not only cost me money but does nothing at all to contribute to the household. They could do something to help such as help with dishe and cleaning. At the very least, they could pick up after themselves and not be wasteful and not add to my costs and workload. Nothing would burn my butt more than to get home from work and find that he person I've let stay here has done nothing but hang out on the computer or couch and eaten a ton of food,made a pile of dishes, etc etc. If this sort of stuff goes on for too long most people would start complainin. I hae had it hapen more times than not and more than I care to remember.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Nov 12
I agree with you. I think the best way to prevent the problems is to sit down and talk with the person before they move in and make it clear on what is and what is not ok...house rules etc. I currently have my daughter and her son staying with me. She is unemployed and looking for work and also taking classes. I KNEW when I agreed for her to stay here that all she had for money was her unemployment check which is small. I expected my food bill to go up and other things as well and I don't mind as long as she is not being wasteful and helps out around the house which she does.
• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
Yes she does which I am grateful for. People should definitely realize the more people in the house, the more the bills will be... Well that's the good thing with my cousin, she does help out and she is looking for work. I don't have to worry about that. But I do know what you mean, I have seen it too. That is a good reason to be angry if the person does absolutely nothing all the time. But when the person is doing their part there is no reason for complaining all the time.
• United States
25 Nov 12
That is so nice of you to do LMB! I agree with you 100%. If you ask someone to come to live with you because they have hard times, you shouldn't complain at all. I don't believe in doing something because you'll get "brownie points" from everyone. It's something that comes from the heart. I guess I would get aggravated if the person showed no signs of wanting a job, or sleeping in late without any ambition, but your cousin is not this person. I think what you're doing is wonderful and I'm glad to hear your cousin is up and looking for work also, and has a job lined up. Don't ask me why people are so nasty...I have no idea.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 12
hi Kashmeresmycat I do agree with you and haha Deazil shame on you haha'and thanks for my first la ugh of the d ay. its cold and foggy and overcast and gloomy here in supposedly s unny Southern California. this early morning.
• Valdosta, Georgia
26 Nov 12
Thanks, I love helping! =) I would understand if the person was being super lazy and not ever helping with things venting sometimes but if their doing their part, why complain about them?? It annoys me! I don't get people either and I am glad I don't understand them, if I did it would mean I am like them!
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@deazil (4730)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Um, Kash, do you have a spare room?
@celticeagle (167051)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Nov 12
Yell? Get mad? All sounds pretty negative. Maybe some people want something to b*tch about so they have people stay with them so they have someone to be upset with. I think we ask people to stay to help them for a certain amount of time. But then when that time is gone by and they still are staying on it is time to speak to them and have them get work or take on some responsibilities.
@celticeagle (167051)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Nov 12
It is normal for someone under stress to lash out to some degree at the ones they love. It is not normal for that to become abusive. Common sense, as they say, isn't always common. Infact in many circles it is rare. SOme people just don't put up with people in teir space for very long. Is this working person helping out financially?
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Nov 12
She starts her job on Monday and she will be helping out financially as well. I have no complaints with that at all. As long as someone is trying to better their life and get on their feet, and not using or taking advantage its no big deal to me. Then again, I am not a person that has a specific way for everything, I am pretty laid back and open minded so having someone here really doesn't bother me...
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
It is negative! I know... Maybe some people do need something to complain about. I just never understood this. I am not talking about a lazy person. I am talking about a person who is working and doing their part to get their own place but the person that took them in being mad because bills are higher than they were before! Isn't that common sense to expect that when you have extra people in your home using water and electric?? It is to me!
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@AmbiePam (92860)
• United States
25 Nov 12
If someone is living with you and then they act badly, then either kick them out or ask them to pitch in. I wouldn't bother complaining, I'd do something about it! Now I don't mind if people complain about it a little because everyone needs to vent. But if things are that bad then take care of it I'd say. What REALLY gets me is when people are allowed to stay with someone rent free and then complain about the person who is being nice enough to let them stay.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Nov 12
That is very true Ambie! I love what you wrote here. I understand venting too, I am not talking about that though. I just don't like people who don't think their bills are going to go up when more people are living in the house. Isn't that common sense that it will happen? And I totally agree with your last statement!! I do NOT understand people who do that either, how can you talk badly about someone who was nice enough to let you stay with them!? I know someone who did this though. He is a homeless guy and a guy down the street from us let him stay with him. All he asked him to do is rake the yard. The homeless guy came down to our house complaining that he is nobodys slave! I was like WHAT?!? Are you kidding me? So, yeah he was moaning and groaning about having to rake the yard when he was living there for FREE and eating all of the food...Um, crazy!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
25 Nov 12
We have to be sincere if we let others in our house. We need not be hypocritical and create an issue from what supposedly a sincere acts of charity. But guests who overstayed their goodbyes is not going to please their hosts which give them reasons to complain. Everything has a limit and guests should not take advantage of the host leniency. As a free loader we should be considerate and not behave like a hotel guest.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
Yes your right. If someone does not want anyone to live with them they should not offer a place to stay! I agree with you, there is such a thing as overstaying our welcome.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
24 Nov 12
Sometimes people say things in the moment without thinking of what it entails....your cousin is lucky you aren't pressing her for any payment for the ulitities etc. If I had someone stay with me it would be understood that it was temporary and with a time limit of when they would have to start paying for things. I would in your case however encourage her to get a job if she can....no matter how meager. It would be very good for her self esteem.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Nov 12
Oh no, she is starting her job on Monday and she told me she would help with bills and such once she starts getting paid. That is not a problem for me at all. And I am not a person that wants things a certain way or anything like that so it doesn't bother me to have people here...
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@marguicha (223109)
• Chile
25 Nov 12
Sometimes it is very difficult to live with other people even if you want to help. There are different ways of doing things and that pisses off many people. I guess the best way to manage such a situation is to establish from the beginning certain rules of the house. I had some problems years ago when my own daughter came to live for some time with us after she got married. I could not accept that they used a dish or glass and left it dirty on the sink. I did not mind the extra expense, but I did mind the extra work. I told them so. I wanted to help, but I wanted them to realise that there were some unsaid ways of living here.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
It is hard living with others, especially if your fussy about your things. I am a very laid back person who doesn't mind most things. I don't get annoyed too easy at all. So, theres not much someone can do that will annoy me. Too me it is common sense if you use a dish, wash it. Lol. Whenever I lived with someone I automatically did that, cleaning up after yourself is a must for anyone!
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
25 Nov 12
I guess, people would really like to extend help. But on certain circumstances, their budget would be over than the usual. It is okay if they are well off, but if they could just barely make both ends meet, I think that is when they ask for their "visitor" to try help for covering the expenses in the house.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
In all situations their bills will go up. The more people you have in a house, the more expensive the bills are! That is just common sense to me...
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
24 Nov 12
Hi friend! Such an act of kindness deserve to be well appreciated. Not all people will do what you have done. Others may always choose their own convenience over other matters. Well, I agree that when you help there should be no qualifications or additional conditions. We all have our own way of doing things, of returning a favor. We should not impose things as it may be an additional burden to some who are already in the middle of some problem. Have a nice day!
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Nov 12
Well thank you for saying that. I love helping people that need it. People should not complain about having someone else living there if they told them they could stay. There is no sense in that to me...
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
25 Nov 12
Sounds like my house, my parents complain about everything, and its getting real annoying yet they want us to save for a house, and move out (really). Yesterday well the day before I was preping for a colonoscopy (so obviously I will be taking up 1 of the 2 bathrooms for a long time), they whined and complained how much I am in the bathroom and its just ridiculous. If I asked someone to live with me I would make sure it was upfront and clear. But I probably wouldnt ask someone to come in, for the fact they abuse it. But if I move in with someone even for a short period, I will help out, or even offer to pay something.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
I hope you don't mind but your discussion is actually the one that inspired this one... I just cannot understand why people do this. I really don't, especially to their own family! You would think they would be more understanding with what you just went through. Geez! It ticks me off with the way people are when you live with them. I have lived with plenty of people and its always been the same, no matter what I have done its never been good enough for them...
@deazil (4730)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Helping again? It's what you're good at! I see you've gotten quite varied viewpoints on this one. I agree with several. And, like GG said, some people just want to complain about everything. It's as if they offer their help specifically for the purpose of complaining later. Years ago I let a friend and her 8Yr old son stay with me. I had a nice townhouse apartment with an extra bedroom. I know it's hard staying at somebody else's place so on the weekends I stayed at my bf's place so she could have a little space and watch whatever on TV without feeling like she was in the way or putting me out. She worked where I did but needed a place just for a month or two til she found a place of her own. I would never have complained about anything she did. She was my friend and in a tough spot. She did two things the opposite of me. One was she liked the temperature to be anything over 90 degrees! I like anything below 60. It was winter. But I could always go to my room and open the window and close the door. I wouldn't think of letting her freeze. Or complain about her turning the heat way up. She knew I hated the heat and I knew she froze at 75 degrees. She was my friend. I gave her a place to stay and kept her warm as well. You're a good friend to people. And I know you've helped a lot. Your cousin is lucky to have you and I'm sure it's nice for you to have her there. It's great she managed to get a job. She's lucky. In more ways than one.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
27 Nov 12
Always helping deazil, always. Lol. It is my specialty. I love doing it. When I die the one thing people can say about me is I am always helping whoever I can. I will be happy with that. =) It is hard for people to stay with someone else, it is an uncomfortable feeling. I have lived with others too and it was very difficult. You feel like you always have to walk on egg shells to make sure you won't upset anyone. I personally don't want anyone to feel like that in my home. I want them to feel welcome. Your a great friend for being so good to her. Most people would say its my house and I want to be comfortable. So you are awesome for doing that for her!
@deazil (4730)
• United States
27 Nov 12
Thanks. You are awesome as well for helping so many people. It comes from your heart and this shows. In part it has to do with self respect and respecting others. You're a kindhearted person. Keep helping. You probably do more good than you realize. What for you is a small favor or kind word is much larger to the recipient. And you will always be remembered for the good that you did, the help you gave to others willingly and without complaint.
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
24 Nov 12
I am wondering if the frustration comes from the person if they feel obligated to help them. Like they really didnt have a choice to say no without the worry that the person might be left outside without any place to go. And then with the person there, they may carry the burden of worry on how long they might be there and how long they will be obligated to take care of them.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
This is a very good point as well that I really didn't think about. I like your response because it is coming at a different angle... Very true.
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• United States
28 Nov 12
Simple , " asking them to stay" is just a gesture. They haven't Really expected to really support the person. You and your husband are really good people. You are helping out of the goodness of your hearts.
• United States
27 Dec 12
Fantastic! Everything is working out!
• Valdosta, Georgia
5 Dec 12
Yeah we try to help whoever we can. I am just glad she knows that and is not taking advantage of it. She got a job and she told me as soon as she gets paid she will help with the bills too.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
24 Nov 12
I think people get an idea in their head of what it's going to be like.. then it doesn't end up that way. It's kind of a shock to them when their bills go up unexpectedly because they didn't plan on that happening with one other person in the house. People don't realize we're all different. What I consume is different from what you consume. How I like to pass my time is different from you. You may prefer to read books and not waste much electricity where as I want to have a radio on for background noise while I play video games.. wasting a lot of electricity. Just an example, I don't actually do that.. but some people do. But if you don't take these things into consideration when you open your home to someone, you may end up shocked when they do these things. You might think they're being insensitive when really they are just being themselves.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
Yeah I guess that is what it is. I knew with 2 extra people here it would still make a difference in bills. To me it is common sense. More baths and more showers=higher bills. Lol. Exactly, but you realize this and so do I. Why don't other people get that fact too? Ugh! It is just normal for me to think about before helping someone... Your absolutely right! I love your response. =)
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@MandaLee (3764)
• United States
24 Nov 12
Hi Loving, You are so right. People should not offer up their home and then turn around and complain. If someone is going to spend all their time complaining, why do they offer their home in the first place? That just makes no sense to me.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
Yeah, people should know that bills are going to go up because its more people using everything! Of course things will be more expensive, isn't that common sense? It is to me! Lol.
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@doroffee (4222)
• Hungary
24 Nov 12
I would never ever let a person live with us for a longer period without putting anything in. But I would tell them in advance that if they want to live with us, they have to conform to some rules. It's not like we're working for keeping x plus people... especially in this economical situation in my country. Even if two people are working really hard at their workplaces,l sometimes they cannot even live a steady life, let alone more people, with some not even working. But that's cruel if someone lets another person stay without any rules, and then complains... that's really rude.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
Well yeah if their not helping or anything than that is different. But people act like they don't know the bills are going to go up with people living there. Of course they are! My cousin is looking for a job and should be getting it on Monday. I am excited for her. =) I don't mind having people stay with us that do what their supposed to do but I also know bills will go up with extra people here. I knew that before they ever came. It is common sense to me.
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@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
24 Nov 12
Thanks a ton for sharing this discussion. Well yes u are very much correct, i think there is no issue in helping others to stay at your place but then if they do not cooperate you in any way or do not contribute to your house from their own side then people would definitely get a scope to complain about them. i know its very hard to complain at that moment but if they are not realized about the same then they will continue to exploit this freedom. What say?
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• Valdosta, Georgia
24 Nov 12
Your welcome. =) Well, my cousin is a great house guest so I have no issue with her being here. She is also looking for a job which she might be starting on Monday. I have just seen so many people complaining about bills going up when they have people staying with them. How could you not know that would happen?!? Of course bills will go up, there's more people!
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