If Evolution Is Not True, Then........

There's a BIG, HUGE difference between creationists and those who truly know and study the Bible. Those creationists who believe that God created everything in SIX 24 days are even more wrong than those who believe in the evolution of one species to another. What they believe is NOT what the Bible says.

There was a program on Discovery last night called "curiosity" that showed how we evoled from a single cell in the ocean. We progressed through stages to fish, then we learned to breath air and became a land animal, which evoled in a lizard type creature, and that is when we developed nails to be able to dig and forage. It showed how the evloutionary process took us through many stages until we finally became a creature that could stand on 2 legs, and finally developed speech and become a homosapian. Very interesting theory.

Curiosity is a really good show, lots of awesome and interesting facts from it. Evolution makes perfect sense for how we developed to what we are today, where creation has a few... glitches...

There are actually zillions of things that show that the human body was designed. Take for instance memory and the ability to plan for the future. Animals only have rudimentary abilities in either of those things. What about all of the working systems in your body. Circulatory, respiratory, skeletal framework. nervous system, etc.etc. Do you even have any idea how these systems work and interact with each other? What about our immune system. That alone is marvelous. If you walked into a factory with everything running automatically would you think that it sprung up by itself or that someone intelligent designed it? There are more and more scientists who study these things and who are totally convinced that the human body had a designer. A very intelligent designer. To believe that humans evolved from a single cell in the ocean is preposterous. It takes a whole lot more FAITH to believe that than it does to believe in a Creator, who has the Bible to back up everything that has been done on the earth. This Bible has been preserved intact through centuries of criticism and attempts to destroy it. Now the Bible is available to over 95% of the people on the earth in their own language. And still people would rather believe in some human who came up with a theory over 150 years ago, who had no knowledge of genetics or DNA. DNA alone proves to me that each individual person is unique and yet descended from another pair of humans.

@IreneVincent How can you say there is no evidence? If mankind did not evolve then they would have been around during the millions of years that dinosaurs roamed the Earth and the millions of years before dinosaurs when other creatures existed. Without evolution the present day creatures would not exist.

Actually there were gigantic men in ancient times, just like there are still pygmies today. It all depends on where you live, who your ancestors are and what you eat.

@IreneVincent The length apportioned to a biblical day is academic. The fact still is that many creatures have existed and become extinct and other creatures have since come into existence.

As it pertains to the origins of life, you're right. It cannot be proven, save having a time machine. Even recreating life doesn't "prove" that life was created the same way. But as it pertains to how species evolve over time through natural selection, that is as close to "fact" as you have in science. Not sure how it's warping minds, but that's probably a good topic for a separate discussion. And I'd love to rant on it.

I DO BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION!! Another one who misses the tone of a discussion

I'm not trying to be argumentative here - just asking a very serious question. Why does the existence of evolution preclude the possibility of creation? Or vice-versa? Why can't both be true? Doesn't one explain how we (the universe, et al) came into existence and the other explain how we changed once we got here? It seems to me, and I'm very willing to hear alternative ways of thinking as long as it makes rational sense, that the Bible gives a very general account of how things came into being. In one of the creation stories, the one most often referred to near the beginning of Genesis, the order of things created is the same as the order of things created in evolution. Why can't it be that the Bible gives main appearances - the sun, the earth, land, water animals, land animals, humans and evolution explains how we went from one to another? The Bible says God created these things. Yes. Couldn't he have created these things through evolution? Is God so limited that the only way he can create is NOW?

@IreneVincent That leave the fact that we may have been genetically engineered by an alien race. Which is also a possibility. We should not ever discount that theory. Since we know more about the universe now and that there might be life on other planets, anything is possible.

@inertia4 I don't think I would ever believe that theory. It's way too complicated for so many reasons. Creation by an Almighty God is easy to believe compared to that.

The discovery of DNA completely messed up the theory of the evolutionary process of one species evolving into another one. Yes , there are animals and even humans who ADAPT to new environments but no one has ever proven that one species evolved into another one. There have been many "scientific hoaxes" down through the years, in an effort to support Darwin's theory, but these hoaxes have been exposed. Drawings have confused the issue as artists try to insinuate their depictions of what early man looked like, which are totally laughable. The very act of procreation debunks the evolution of one species into another species. Any effort to mate two species of animals by artificial insemination has only resulted in a sterile animal who cannot reproduce. This alone convinces me that the evolution of one species to another is IMPOSSIBLE. Think about it, seriously.

On your statement that there is no evolution without consciousness... are you implying then, that bacteria are conscious beings? If the two of them are in relation to eachother, then that would make bacteria and viruses the most conscious living organisms, because they go through the most extreme and quickest forms of evolution.. am I hearing you right?

yes and no I distinguish between matter and consciousness. In my view mere consciousness does not equal life. Consciousness merely ''acts'' upon matter or rather ''plays'' with it. Consciousness ''needs'' matter to become aware of itself, to become ''alive''. I consider consciousness (when separated from matter) as one big ocean (btw, as I learned yesterday, E. Schrödinger had similar thoughts about that particular issue) which ''sends'' drops (like drops of water) into the ''real'' physical world to become ''alive'', even if it's just bacteria or a virus. Then that ''little'' soul starts playing... until things work. And if they work things improve and so forth. I don't see how mecanisms like reprodution AND improvement could come into being just by ''accident'', even if there's a lot of time for that to happen. But what's even more of a mystery to me is why would ''things'' follow a certain line of events which are always defined by those mecanisms. That would imply that life is a physical law, i.e. life without consciousness. But then again you'd have to explain how that physical law came into being... something or someone has to ''drive'' it you know. Just like computers didn't came into being by themselves but needed a consciousness that developped them - started its evolution.

@stk40m The answer is a living Almighty God who not only created all things in the Universe but who had the Bible written and preserved for us today. What most people do not realize, is that the Bible contains a "sacred secret." Basically, it involves God's plans and purposes for the earth and for humans. It's all there, so clearly explained to those who seek answers to questions like you just asked.. The "sacred secret" began in the beginning of human history and will continue until God is satisfied with the outcome. It's one of the most marvelous things I've ever learned and I only hope that more people would also learn about it and understand that all the history of man down through the centuries has been a part of this plan and will have a finale. All the terrible things happening on the earth today are part of the "SIGN" that we are supposed to recognize as the "time of the end." The "last days" of this world as we know it. Unfortunately, many people would rather ridicule the Bible than to heed its message. But, this will not stop what God has in store for the earth and its inhabitants. The evolutionary theory or aliens from another planet are merely an attempt to ignore what is about to happen. People choose those ideas because they don't want to be responsible for their actions. If there is no God, there is no purpose of life and therefore a person can do what ever they want and not be held accountable. But, what if you KNEW that you had the opportunity to LIVE FOREVER on a peaceful earth? Would you be interested in learning HOW to do that? Or are you satisfied to just grow old and die. Evolution gives you NO HOPE, NO PURPOSE. The Bible promises everlasting life. Isn't it worth finding out for sure?

This is a never-ending discussion. But, believe me, those who believe that one species evolved into another have to have a lot of faith in that theory, because there is no proof.

You are soooo right. Darwin knew NOTHING about genetics 150 years ago when he came up with his theory. DNA completely RUINS his theory.

Not really. It'd be more like shaking a can of parts and eventually coming up with something different from the initial parts. Not out to argue this. There's been plenty of that on myLot. But evolution doesn't suggest things today emerged from the shake machine.

No never thought of that - I am in the belief, and I doubt I am alone in this - That nails were once claws, from when we were scurrying mammals