what if we will never reach the stars?

@stk40m (1118)
Koeln, Germany
November 26, 2012 5:45pm CST
this is a strictly scientific question. I'm not referring to soul travelling (which may exist), just in case someone was thinking about that do you think it will ever be possible to use rockets, space ships, whormholes, other physical dimensions etc. to physically leave our solar system and visit other planets in our galaxy or elsewhere in the universe?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Nov 12
Science may allow it (very, very slowly), but I'm not sure that politics will.
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@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
26 Nov 12
Hi dawnald, thank your for your comment. Can you be a bit more specific in regard to that point. Do you allude to the funding of such space projects or the deprivation of the possibility to people?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Nov 12
I'm talking about funding, yes.
@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
27 Nov 12
that's a clear statement. Thank you! I guess funding is indeed considered by many people a huge issue in space exploration.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
27 Nov 12
Well, we can do that now. Any one of our many probes can travel out beyond our solar system on a course with other star systems. The only issue is that none of us would be around for the results. Not only would it take many, many years to get there, but then the signals back would take a really long time. The good news is that things traveling out there in space can pick up speed the longer they travel. It's possible to propel something close to the speed of light -- "close" being pretty far away, however. But for taking people, that's not happening any time soon. We've barely explored other planets in our own solar system. I think we should start with that stuff first. It takes around 6 months just to get to Mars.
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@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
27 Nov 12
doing that ''now'' meaning within a time span of about 17,000 years (!), i.e. Voyager 1 would reach the nearest star Proxima Centauri which is 4.2 light years away within that time if it was travelling straight to that star. Sometimes things change pretty quick. If for example the quantum computer was made real this would be a quantum jump in processing speed from a few billion calculations per second to virtually unlimited calculations per second. So may be it could happen rather sooner than later if someone finds a way not conceived yet. But I also consider the possibility that it might not even be possible at all. Hence the topic question. What if not? Thx for your comment.
• United States
27 Nov 12
I got the question. But I don't think it's a question that needs to be asked. I believe it's logical that the stars are where we're heading, evidenced by the fact that we can already get there. It's just not efficient. But it will be. We're very young.
@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
28 Nov 12
in the current situation it is definitely a question to be asked. Of course you don't need to answer it if you don't want to are unable to do so. If politicians or scientists keep telling people that reaching other stars is possible that might lead to the idea that exploitation of Earth is okay coz sooner or later we may be able to exploit other planets instead if this one is exhausted. And no, we cannot get there, just our machines
@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
27 Nov 12
I think that we will be able to do it someday, although it seems nearly impossible to us, now. The thing is, back in the 1200s, it seemed impossible to make it across the ocean, then in the 1800s, it seemed impossible to fly, then in the early 1900s, it seemed impossible to make it into space, let alone the moon! So, the impossible always seems to be made possible given enough time... The problem right now, is rockets, and gravity. Before we can leave our solar system, we have to be able to get off earth and into space easily. Problem is, gravity holds us down, and rockets haven't become that much more efficient. But, if we can find a way to beat gravity, via a massive space elevator or finding a way to cancel gravity, we'll get into space way easier, and have way more ability for testing and trying new ways to travel in space. Its all step by step... I'll just hope to see as many steps as possible while I'm still around :)
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@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
27 Nov 12
your last statement, I absolutely second that even if it's just inter-planetary travel (holiday on Mars or Jupiter's and Saturn's Moons would be fun Either cancel gravity or perhaps cancel mass? Coz gravity only affects mass, right? I remember CERN trying to find out what gives matter its mass, calling it the HIGGS field. If they can ''turn off'' that field maybe matter loses its mass and then it could be accelerated indefinitely... or so I would think
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
13 Dec 12
Hi stk40m, That depends on what type of civilization we are on a scale of 1 to 4. Here are the types of civilizations described by Dr. Michio Kaku: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iKS9qXSZT4
• India
14 Dec 12
Hi stk40m, If you think we've not been visited then you have certainly mistaken, do you think that someone like Michio Kaku will waste his time on something which is not possible. He can't tell you the truth because even he has to survive in this world where governments are investing money in covering it up. From Roosvelt event in 1947 to Dyatlov pass event, every time when we have encountered them, we've found something much much advanced. If you've doubt in believing that we've been visited, watch these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0ApDr032I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XSqcAq0A9k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6QNzH4x1rY Apart from this you can search for Puma Punku, Machu pichhu, Nazca lines, band of holes all these are located in peru, ask yourself why and how these things were built on earth and who could have done that. In our religion n number of times it's been mentioned that people at that time used to travel in time. There is one incident where a king traveled for one month in space for a war and when he came back there were millions of years passed here on earth. So it's not impossible, it's just that we're not advanced enough to even confidently think in these lines. That's why Michio Kaku says we don't even rate 1 on the classification of civilization scale.
@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
14 Dec 12
sounds promising. I guess it also depends on how far evolution can take us. Will our brains be capable of understanding the hidden truths of the universe? What if the truth is that we can only improve the already developped technologies but not invent such that could take us there. There might also be insurmountable limits. The universe could be designed in a way that prohibits interstellar travel within a life-span of a human being. In that context I often ask myself: if there are advanced civilizations out there why haven't they already visited us? Maybe that's a hint for the impossibility of getting there (or here). Still fascinating thoughts. Thx for your comment!
@willc98 (67)
• United States
26 Nov 12
I think a lot of that could happen slowly. But hey, we did land a vehicle on MARS! Makes me wonder why we didn't go to the moon any more. Maybe it just wasn't worth the trip, probably tens of billions. I think our next objective is going to get things going on Mars. And that's probably going to be it travel-wise for the next 50 years. We will probably try to fly a person to Mars 20-30 years from now after we study the planet a bit more. As for other dimensions and wormholes, those things are possible in theory, but we don't know for sure. But even if they did exist, how many hundreds of years would it take to learn how to fly a space ship through a wormhole? Well, they may go into an alternate universe and never be able to come back, other wise we would have real "time travelers."
@stk40m (1118)
• Koeln, Germany
27 Nov 12
as for the Moon, recently I read an article about that. ESA seems to plan to go there near 2020. If they do it I'll definitely follow it closely. There have been only a couple of people there in the whole (known) history of mankind! So it will be a must see. Yeah, I agree, if it would be possible in theory it would certainly take hundreds of years to figure out how to put theory into practice.