Please help me BAN this word!
By pergammano
@pergammano (7682)
Canada
December 5, 2012 7:23am CST

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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
5 Dec 12
hi dear pergammanoo first of all tons of hugs to you.I am glad you are around again, missed you sooo much though I wasnt in mylot that often.
Grrrrrr that should have thing also gets on my nerves. Maybe the other person saying that should have thing would have done as he or thinks it would have been better but I bet if these people are in our shoes they make mistakes too. Hindsight is always easier so would they please leave us alone with that garbage of should have known better.
Off my soapbox........
and more hugs to you
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12


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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
5 Dec 12
y'all SHOULD come to Tennessee & let me tell y'all in person what you SHOULD do, lol.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
5 Dec 12
I know dear Antiquelady, showering you with HUGS....... thats what we should do right now.
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@robspeakman (1700)
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5 Dec 12
You really SHOULD study vernacular and Grammar and then you SHOULD realised that Posting this SHOULD have been avoided.
Imagine yesterday you forgot to post a letter...
You COULD have posted the letter?
you WOULD have posted the letter?
you SHOULD have posted the letter?
You are crossing the road chatting on your phone, you get hit by a car and die - BOO HOO very sad
What do friends and family say?
"You SHOULD not of been using the phone when you were crossing the road".
I am in partial agreement with you when it is used in the wrong context.
"You SHOULD listen to Justin Bieber"
That is wrong
The correct use is - We SHOULD find Justin Bieber and we SHOULD make him stop singing

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@GardenGerty (162238)
• United States
5 Dec 12
Lighthearted truth. I do agree that it depends on the context, but so often the context seems pushy and judgmental. We could do so much better if we would not try to require others to meet our expectations.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12


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@much2say (57209)
• Los Angeles, California
5 Dec 12



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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12


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@acoustic67scouser (220)
• India
5 Dec 12
I must agree to what you've just tried to explain on the word "SHOULD". And I think the way of saying it really makes a difference. Also the word "SHOULD" is so commonly used from the times of our forefathers, that it "became" a "part" of our daily lives.

@suni51 (3429)
• India
5 Dec 12
As you say big sis
Who we are to contradict your wish. In fact, your wishes are our commands.
And when it comes to being should or must, we love to have it from our elder ones. But the right way is what you said, it should be in way of suggestions and not as martial-law. Finally, you know it better as I would like to keep my small mouth shut.



@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12

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@GardenGerty (162238)
• United States
5 Dec 12
Because my brother the preacher told me long ago not to "should on myself" I try not to use that word. Sometimes it is not easy. I get kind of bristly and uptight when others should on me as well.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12


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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
5 Dec 12
Hi... I've been into customer service industry for years, have been through a lot of training on how to express what is to be conveyed in proper words... So I think I 'should' say something LOL....
'Should' is a compulsive word.. You're right, that word expresses an order... We were always told to refrain from using 'should'. When an advisor in my office says 'you should...' to a customer, it becomes an order to the customer. Instead of that we were told to use 'you need to...'.. Thats the right of telling a customer what has to be done.. 'Could you please...' is also the right way to do it...
Take care...
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
6 Dec 12
Thanks a lot Dear... Lack of manners is right reason... Partially though! Such a blunt use of words comes through Mother Tounge Influence.. Many of the people in Customer Care tend to translate from their mother tounge to English and then speak. It happens subconsciously and as quickly as possible... And thats why they fail to realize their own blunders... LOL...
There are training sessions carried, but it does not work for everyone... :-)
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Dec 12



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• Canada
6 Dec 12


@anklesmash (1412)
•
6 Dec 12
I can understand the point you are trying make but isn't it really the superior attitude of the person that is objectionable rather than the word itself.That is why I have a very liberal attitude towards swearing.I think the intentions and feelings behind a word are more important than the words themselves.What should be condemned in my opinion is saying things to delibrately try and hurt the feelings of another person and not saying one of a certain set of words that society says you shouldnt say.The social group im in swears all the time and take mickey out of each other calling eac other names that so called polite society would find shocking but it dosent bother anyone as theres no malice or ill will behind it.And everyone knows that nobody would do anything to deliberately upset anyone.
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Dec 12


@allknowing (141003)
• India
5 Dec 12
It never occurred to me until you brought it my notice. "You could have done" sounds so polite as opposed to "You should have done" And anyway no one has the right to order people around and certainly not those who are expert at romping grapes!

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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
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@allknowing (141003)
• India
6 Dec 12
There are those who will perpetually advise others what they should be doing and should not be doing which is often not called for. Unless one specifically asks for advice that kind of advice puts one off. You are justified in feeling the way you do considering that you have always left a pleasant taste after a conversation.
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@allknowing (141003)
• India
6 Dec 12
On second thoughts you SHOULD have told that person off!

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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
5 Dec 12
Dear Sis
I am with you and who has been so hurting to you dear?
I do believe that politeness is getting obsolete in the present day and only a bunch of (handful people) are so well mannered to use "could" in today's world... for many others (me included, many times), "should" seems a better way out and also, we need not worry much about grammar when using "should"...
ps. I will try to make use of "could" more often from mow on

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@portisray (503)
• Philippines
5 Dec 12
What a weird thing that you want to ban the word SHOULD!!!
Well, suggest a word that you want instead of using Should??? We can't say that to people if that's what they want to say...
I think you SHOULD ignore that word... if someone say that to you.... 

@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Dec 12


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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Dec 12
yes that leaves a person not feeling like theother person just called you and idiot as you could have is not mean sounding nor superior sounding either.I am always telling p eople here to read the gu idelines but I do not thinkI have ever used should and I just s aid it helps or something like that. In school as a klid I heard that should a lot whew.
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@hereandthere (45639)
• Philippines
6 Dec 12
it's the same when i'm reading some responses here. i admit i roll my eyes sometimes and mutter to myself, "you're not helping." i tend to say "if i were in that situation, i would..." i would also say, "if he or she did this or that, then i would have..."
but i do remember annoying my sister who was complaining to me that she and her husband got into a fight before he left for an early morning flight because she put some important documents on top of his clothes inside the open suitcase the night before without telling him. he, of course, didn't notice and probably just dumped more clothes or locked the suitcase and so had to wake her up when he couldn't find them.
me being me, i saw it from his point of view (backtracking and analyzing how it happened or what caused it in the first place) so i said she should have put it on top of the open laptop because he'd probably do that last and, well, documents and clothes usually don't go together. you'd have two different "bags" for them, right? of course she turned her back on tactless me! 

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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Dec 12


@hereandthere (45639)
• Philippines
7 Dec 12
i think she wanted a little sympathy first, before the analysis, which went over my head because i automatically went into detective mode. 

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@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
8 Dec 12
Interesting thoughts on this. In reality, how do you really know how you would react if placed in the same situation? Personally you don't so instead of saying you should have, you just need to choose another way of saying something as in a form of a suggestion and things will go on a lot better as well.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
14 Dec 12


@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
10 Dec 12
Why is the word "should" so offensive to you? If I am told that I "should have" done sometime, I shrug it off because I probably should have done it. I could have cut my bangs so that I could see better is more off a cop out; I should have cut my bangs so I could see better is more decisive. It's a rather accusatory word. Take the phrases: Can I? or May I? Yes you CAN do it but you MAY not do it. I detest people that just don't seem to get the difference between the two.
It's all in how you hear the words. I am not a fan of slang or constantly swearing-I've even been accused by someone of speaking "above" him. I guess I was more formal than him because of my background and education. I laughed, because make me made enough and I can swear like a sailor! 

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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
14 Dec 12
I'm so sorry that you didn't understand. I do see a typo or two I made, so that's my bad.
Should and could are somewhat interchangeable. I think the biggest difference is how the topic is approached; some people feel that it is their job in life to tell others how to live their lives, and typically will use the word should in an accusatory way. I think using the word could is a much less confrontational way.
I think that in discussions like this, we lose the tonal inflections present in live conversation, and that leads to misunderstandings.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
12 Dec 12
Hello sweet lady. I'm sorry that it riles you so. The next time someone says that to you, you should beat them over the head with a big wet noodle. Would that make you feel better??
I don't take any notice unless the person is offering me sage advice or unless I know they know what they are talking about. Unless they are telling me after the event when they could have told me beforehand and saved me the hassle of making a mistake then I curse under my breath and wish them to Hades.

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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
14 Dec 12
We seem to be at extreme opposite ends dear one. "Basking in late Spring"...not! We have been having very high temps. One day in "late Spring" was 44 degrees Celsius! Can you believe it? We've had no substantial rain since July, just a 5 minute storm or the occasional scud of a shower here and there. The garden is looking dismal, even the weeds are dying and we're told it will get even hotter. There is no rain in sight but it will come and when it does we will be in flood. The ground is so dry pergy, it's a crying shame.
Your camping trip sounds delightful but I'm afraid I would not survive. The cold would seep into my joints and leave me sleepless. Back when I was camping it would be 3 pair of track pants and the temps were nowhere near minus anything. It was better when we started towing a camper trailer, 5 star camping that was but those days are gone.
I don't really do Christmas, especially this year as it's the first without Dad. I will be alone so it will be just another day...no matter, there's always plenty to do to take my mind off things. 

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• Canada
14 Dec 12


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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
6 Dec 12
Hi!
Some people are in the habit of giving unsolicited advice and if you narrate or share something with them, they tend to say - You should have done this or that.
These kind of people are incorrigible because they do not know that it is no use of giving advice when the incident has already taken place.
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
7 Dec 12
Thanks for kind words of appreciation about me, this makes me smile.
Yes, probably those people render 'unsolicited' advice who just want to brag and hear themselves.

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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Dec 12



@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
7 Dec 12
I know what you mean my friend. I dislike it greatly when people should on me. Luckily it does not happen too often and those that do have a habit of doing it to me, I also have a habit of not going out of my way to be around them.
Offering advise to others has to be done in a way that does not make them feel belittled in any way. I like to share my personal experiences as a form of inspiration, instead of telling people that they should do something. Leading by example and having others follow is much more successful than trying to push people into doing something. 


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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
15 Dec 12
It is funny, although it annoys me to have people telling me that I should have done this or I should do that, I often find mysef saying it to myself in my head. Telling myself that I should have done this instead of doing that.
Another option for people is to say "you could try it this way" instead of "you should do it this way" as it is offering a suggestion as an equal instead of being an authority over the person.
It is good to chat with you too, I have not had much time to be here of late as too many other things have a higher priority at the moment. I feel honoured to enter your thoughts when you are harvesting garlic. It seems odd to me that you would, but it is strange how the mind works and I am glad that you think of me!
With wheat flour, I think that if you were to grow your own wheat and then grind it yourself, then it would be fine to eat. But as for the stuff in the stores that most people in the western world are using, I would not touch it. As you say, it has been grown with large amounts of pesticides and is most likely GMO as well. You never know what you are eating when you buy mainstream mass produced products like that. It is really scary stuff that most people do not even give a second thought about until they end up with cancer and wonder why.
Have a safe and happy holidays yourself and I hope you are not too cold up there while we are enjoying the summer fun down here! As for my daughter, she has been up to all sorts of great things recently,....I might even have to brag about it in a discussion!
Take care..
Bill :-)



