The Newest California Madness

Tucson, Arizona
December 6, 2012 2:29am CST
Ah, California-- movie stars, Disney, Silicon Valley sanctuary cities, lots of fruits and nuts (of all kinds, agricultural and otherwise). The California Teachers Union got Ed Asner--and Fred Glass as director, to produce a lovely animated video purportedly designed for adults (though formatted for children) that shows the 1% performing a liquid bodily function involving waste disposal on the heads of the downtrodden poor, while laughing.. to teach people why they have to raise the taxes on the rich yet again to save public education. cft.org Seriously? Educators in California get a LOT of funds--and public education still stinks. They just finished voting another round of taxes on the rich as well--though California is officially the worst run state is the USA for the second year in a row, according to 24/7 wall street, with the highest number of bankrupt cities (union problems, mostly) rapidly climbing unemployment, and systemic mismanagement. With the newest round of tax hikes, it looks like all those rich folk will be paying about 50% between the new city state and federal taxes. Which leads me to wonder a few things: When will Hollywood, the Glitterati, and Silicon Valley all relocate to Utah--one of the top 5 BEST run states? And am I the only person who thinks this amazingly disgusting video should never have been made--if it was designed for adults, as they claim, then they seem to be making the point that adults are so un-educated you have to speak to them the way you go grade schoolers (then again, this is California, so one has to wonder). The style is very close to that used to make one of those environmental nutball videos they were pushing in schools not all that long ago. I am HOPING, they really do intend on showing this to their adult population (though I would be insulted if someone spoke down to me like that). I have gotten used to the socialist aspects of most union propaganda, but this is truly out there. But this is California---so I wonder.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
6 Dec 12
When you can sit 50 students in the same run-down classroom with a single teacher and an abacus and have 9-year-old students outperform our high school students, the "we need more money" line simply doesn't wash. Unions want more money. Teachers believe they deserve more money. But what's the product they're turning out? If our students were avocados, farmed fresh from California, they would be bland, undersized, discolored, and all that expensive, fancy fertilizer and the farmers making a lot of money would go to waste. Our avocados would pale in comparison to a farmer's whose avocados were grown for 100th of the money, a 10th of the land, and with 5% of the resources available to us. Our product would be weak. Our product IS weak. Their Kung fu is strong. I honestly do not know why a lot of people's answer for everything is more money. The only thing I can guess--and it is only a guess, so someone can beat me up on it if they want--is that most of the people believing money solves all problems actually have money. Their particular problems are solved with money. They have child support issues? Money. They're running too high a tab for their mansions? Money. Someone's threatening to sue? Money. Need to be reelected? Money. Their spoiled brat of a kid needs a private education? Money. I believe that people who actually have money are incapable of thinking beyond money. And this attitude is contagious. It leads a lot of people with little money to believe all their problems--all society's problems--could also be solved with just more money. Potential socialist agendas aside, I'll stick with just the general consensus amongst the left-leaning people in America that we need to further fund our education system rather than hiring better people or demanding more and working to get more from our kids. If I owned a window-making factory that couldn't produce good windows, I would go out of business. If I campaigned for more money and a better pension and fewer working hours and more job security, that doesn't do a damn thing for my product. Even POTUS could stop by--as he's known for doing at window factories--and my product would still fail if I produced a subpar product. I know, I know -- our kids aren't glass or avocados! Well, they're not students either. They're seat-fillers for career-minded people seeking cushy benefits once tenured. (Apologies to the few real teachers out there. More of your ilk are sorely needed.) Teaching seems to be nothing more in some areas than a way to enter politics without having to be elected. Get in there, do nothing your entire time, don't worry about term limits stopping you, don't lose your job if you're inept or involved in scandal, and hold on until you're clear to receive a pension. Meanwhile, kids are failing miserably and growing up without a proper education. And more goddang money is not the fix! It's obvious why teachers' unions want more taxes paid. Their entire livelihood depends on the blood, sweat and tears of the hard-working American taxpayer. They don't operate on a business model of supply and demand. They skirt the laws of business. They're like aliens figuring out how to get around our known laws of physics. They can continue to increase what they're paid despite the fact that they produce nothing of value for it. So, of course they want the "rich" (of which these union bosses are members, ffs) to give more money. But what's everyone else's excuse? Oh, wait. They must have received a public school education from one of these career-minded teachers. They don't grasp math or business or realize dropping your toothpaste cap down the sink to retrieve your other lost toothpaste cap doesn't work.
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• United States
6 Dec 12
And while I'm still in the mood to rant, let me add: We have computers, HD TVs, calculators, nutritious lunches, clean drinking water, proper sanitation, heating and AC, and all kinds of other stuff in our schools. Even schools we would consider neglected or tore up from da floor up hit 4 of 5. But a kid sitting in a clay hut with none of that, except for an attentive, caring teacher, actually learns! We have a teacher, a teacher's assistant, a person in charge of each branch, people in charge of making sure the proper material is taught, guidance counselors, social workers, help for the social workers and counselors, principals, assistant principals, security chiefs, heads of departments, entire kitchen staffs, janitorial staffs, and on and on -- all working in schools. And then outside of the school, where the blob is found, the hefty, packed-down, bloated, oversized, overbearing school board. Some places have a teacher, an armed guard at the door, and a person to walk 5 miles every day to get clean water to bring back to entire school of 80 kids packed into what used to be a church. And I'd put these kids up against our kids any day. We're the beginning of Rocky III. We've lost the Eye of the Tiger. We've got money, and even in schools we think are horrible and neglected, they're still better than a lot of places throughout the world. And what's our answer to fix failing students? MORE MONEY! More stuff! Higher teacher salaries! More positions in the school! It's 4:45 a.m. and now I'm sick on the stomach and can't sleep! I'm very passionate about this subject. I actually care about how our kids are doing in school. Which seems to be something unions overlook consistently.
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• Tucson, Arizona
6 Dec 12
I agree-- a lot of teachers don't teach. But then again, in all honesty, a lot of kids don't seem to have the...curiosity? ambition? drive? to learn, either. I went to school in severely over crowded classrooms, during the race riots in Boston--and everything I learned, I learned myself, at the library. I shouldn't have HAD to, of course--but considering the lack of textbooks, the hostile environment and the failure of the system, I learned the way I had to. I'm not the only person I know who learned far more out of school than in it--but I don't know any kids of my boys' generation that BOTHERED to try to learn anything. Between TV, video games and the internet, they are all uneducated semi-literate zombies. And I believe that parents share the blame as well, to some extent--by allowing their kids to stagnate. Our education system is a shambles, and has been for some time now. For profit schools--private schools--HAVE to educate kids, or they go out of business. Until a means is found to hold public "free" education--which is far more expensive per student than many private schools-- to the same standard as the for profits, our kids won't have the chance to be educated. Until teachers are held accountable, and made to teach (those who don't--those who do are a minority), the tools to learn won't be there. Until parents shut off the TVs, take away the video games and actively push kids to explore and learn, the kids won't do it--why should they? Our society sends them a schizophrenic message--college is wonderful, but hey, you can still get plenty without an education. Our society has begun actively rewarding failure, and punishing success, in many areas. I believe the poor--so to speak-- believe money solves everything, because they don't have it. The rich--so to speak--know very well that money DOESN'T solve everything--but they also know that if you throw enough money at a problem, it might go bother someone else, or just disappear. And in some cases, you can solve a problem by throwing money at it--look at how we got to the moon. In some cases, if you throw enough money at something, you can make it work. But in other cases, like education--unless you change the attitude of the student, all the money means essentially nothing. If a kid doesn't have an interest in learning, even if you stick them in a state of the art private school--they'll just flunk out. On the other hand, if a kid really wants to learn, you can give him a computer and a library card, and they're good to go, with minimal help from the actual school. Some of the greatest thinkers, scientists, statesmen, businessmen, learned far more on their own than in school. We need teachers who want to teach--but we really also need kids who want to learn, and parents who want to help.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Dec 12
A big reason why our kids don't get an education in public schools is that there is no real discipline allowed. When my kids were in school in the early 2000s I was shocked at how disruptive the students were and the teachers could do nothing about it. One quit because he send a girl to the office--she was wearing a bikini top and short shorts and distracting the boys--and he was suspended for it. He "violated her rights"! Parents don't care, they're both out working and have no time for the kids. Teachers throw up their hands and just try to muddle through the day. Kids don't care, it's just a place to waste time and they don't have to go if they don't want to--there's no real punishment for skipping school. Anything they do at school is okay because they can't receive real punishment. We need some good teachers but we've driven them away to charter and private schools where there is some structure and a real demand on the students to do their best. Yes, I blame unions, too, but one of the biggest problem right now in public schools is lack of discipline.
• United States
6 Dec 12
I see you are like most conservatives: Don't like Unions. This video is not well made, or even well intentioned. However, it does express how many Americans feel about the wealthy in this country (just look at the last election). I have a lot of questions about California being the worse run state, I have looked at the figures, and they don't add up to me. It appears that they use unemployment as a major factor in this list, and poverty as NOTHING. Personally, I feel that if you do a great job of keeping your rich people rich, and your poor people poor than you should be consider the worse run state (enter most of the south especially MISSISSIPPI). Utah? Who wants to live in Utah? I have been to California, and it is one of the most beautiful states I have ever been to. If I could afford to live there, I would consider doing that (maybe when I retire).
• United States
7 Dec 12
Mater, public unions are not the problem with this country, our entire political is. Unions use public officials to get generous contracts for their member, and in return they support those public officials. But, what is the difference between what happens in Washington everyday? I have told everyone on here millions of times that our political system is the root of most of our evil. If you don't take money out of the system it will continue to be completely corrupt, like it is today.
• United States
7 Dec 12
I don't disagree. But if I'm trying to catch Gary Ridgway, I don't also need to hunt Ted Bundy. I'd never get either. I don't have to get them both at the same time, and I don't have to cite how evil the other is when I bring up the first. And the last thing I'd ever do is let one get away just because there are more out there!
• United States
6 Dec 12
Be fair, though. "Unions" isn't the sticking point. It's public-sector unions, whose operations are nothing even somewhat resembling a sound business model. They are economic outliers, surviving politically. As a businessperson, you know that to be true. The product they put forth vs. what they're able to bring in are not related. What they're able to earn relies strictly upon how much money politicians are willing to give them. Some of the "product" is better than others, of course. Police and firefighters -- a wise investment. But could you imagine the outcry if firefighters could not put out fires and save people's lives? Or if police only arrested the wrong people and didn't respond to distress calls? All the union bullying in the world wouldn't save them. But teachers' unions are exempt from that stuff; their product continues to fail, and still they continue to do well and to influence public education more than any other force in existence. It's an incredibly bad business model that we're stuck with. Why aren't liberals just as upset about it? But on a side note: I don't want to live in Utah either.