The Police and you

@allknowing (137822)
India
December 6, 2012 11:16pm CST
It was a situation that ideally called for police attention. But I refrained from doing so as visions of inordinate delays, buying over of witnesses, frequent visits to the police station and even may be to a court dissuaded me from going anywhere near these khaki clad men, not to speak of under the table demands from them.I went through the trauma and losses which I thought would be easier than facing the situation once it fell in the hands of the Police. May be some of you believed that justice would be meted out to you and therefore you went there. What has been the outcome? Anywhere close to victory? Do share your experience. May be India is different?
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13 responses
@silverfox09 (4708)
• United States
8 Dec 12
I have never had to deal with any police and I hope I never have to . I dont like the situation that involved police .
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
Just as well as you are right when you say that you don 't like the situation that involves police.
@Cutie18f (9546)
• Philippines
8 Dec 12
It's been an experience that whenever you report something to the police like theft or anything, nothing is solved. They are only good in making the police blotter and can't pursue the criminals.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
The entire system stinks really. People have stopped complaining as they dread the consequences that will follow!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
7 Dec 12
Cops? India? Ah... that is one doomed territory for sure. I would go to them if I have lost every other option. They and the doctors... I just wished I never encountered anyone and met anyone in real life... but then... The only things I know about Indian cops - they can go to any level to mint money... just like Indian Politicians and doctors... You can and will never find a solution with them anyway
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• Canada
7 Dec 12
Rest assured, my friends...wheels of justice turning slowly are a Global malady. Corruption is rampant within both the Justice and Policing systems here in the Western countries, too! Sometimes it makes me thankful, I live on this small Island..and there is several incidents of "vigilante justice" meted out here, and in most cases, it seems to work better than the system (Police, Court, Justice system.)
@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
That is democracy - for the people, of the people, by the people. If it has worked on your Island surely it should work globally.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
It looks like it is a global malady. It is nightmarish even to think on terms of registering a complaint. So many go scot free because the victim is not ready to put in their complaint. Sad but true!
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@viju0410 (2286)
• India
7 Dec 12
hi, I had handled police for others. Once my friend drove the car on a 'no entry' road and he stopped it. Then i explained to the traffic inspector that we were on a hurry and she's learning driving (thankfully she had a 'L' sign on her newly purchased vehcile) I also complemented him that he's a kind & understanding person and he should excuse the girl's mistake for once. He didn't argue and we fled away from the spot....again @ good speed..
@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
They will not so easily co-operate when big fish is at stake!. Anyway what chances would he have against 2 girls!
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
On re-analysis I wonder who the real culprits are!
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@viju0410 (2286)
• India
7 Dec 12
Hi, And interestingly our Identity card showing that we belong to 'media' was visible to him and he started saying - instead of following the rules we are breaking it and so on.... but then i told him he can contact us incase he needed any 'entry pass/es' for few events sponsored by our group.... that made him a bit calm down and he asked for my number - i confidently gave him my desk number with a twist in the last digits.
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• United States
8 Dec 12
If a situation arises in my area that needs the attention of the police I gladly make the call and I also try to gather as much information as I can t help the police in their investigation. The police have no authority other than respond to a crime, investigate the crime, gather the evidence and make an arrest. The rest is left up to the court system. You have lawyers that use every loophole they can find to get a case overturned and they always look for some little mistake that the police may have made during their investigation to get a case thrown out on a technicality. The police also need the help of the residents in a community to aid in their solving of a crime. They need to get all the information they can and they need everyone's cooperation. If people refuse to get involved, then that may mean that a person will walk. I know it seems that sometimes a person gets locked up but they don't be in jail very long. Some crimes are not very serious and there is only a small fine or short term jail sentence as punishment. Others may be more serious but they are bailable offenses and the offender can contact a bail bondsman and post bail, but he has a court date (general sessions) that he has to make for sentencing. I would never not get involved, even if it was a family member. If I had a son or daughter that was giving me problems and I couldn't do anything with them. I'd call the police and have them sent to DJJ (Dept. of Juvenile Justice). If you let a problem persist it will only get worse and sometimes it takes the police and courts intervening to help correct the problem. I worked security and I have worked in corrections and I am also working on my Bachelors in Criminal Justice and planning to go on for my Masters. I believe in our justice system. There are bad cops and good cops, but our system does work. The wheels of justice may turn slow, but they do turn.
@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
Yes. You are right. The police plays its role up to a point and then the court takes over. The role of the police is crucial as it is there that the situation gets chopped and changed and the reasons are several. The process to seek justice is not palatable. It entails countless visits to the court and the case could be dragged for years defeating the very purpose of seeking justice. As you know justice delayed is justice denied and that is the way our system works.
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@GilMegans (241)
• Philippines
8 Dec 12
Hi allknowing, thanks for sharing this important discussion. Well, speaking of the men in uniforms, seems that it was a very crucial issue to take up when it comes in performing their duties & responsibilities as a law enforcer in the society. Many police officers allegedly didn't perform wholeheartedly and righteously on their job and therefore slowly agitating the good image of the bureau through continuously performing their abusive act and other wicked ways. I think they need earnest counseling or retraining program for them to know how to love their job because it was their butter and bread. I just had hoped that high officials of the bureau should foresee and do something on this before its too late. It should be a full revamp to all abusive and corrupt police officers.
@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
This state of affairs seems to be universal. What makes it that way and why the loopholes to make it that way is not known. It is time, as you said, we need to revamp and overhaul the entire system so that the police have little or no opportunity to 'play games'!
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
7 Dec 12
I seem to be reading a common thread here, but maybe it is different in other countries. Here (Canada) the Police are NOT, the Justice System, they only respond to incidents, report incidents, lay charges, and then the process becomes part of the Justice System whom metes out the punishments! Once again, the punishments meted are controlled by the Constitution! e.g., there is a maximum/minimum sentence for a crime, at the discretion of the Judge! The Police have NO powers to expedite the court proceedures! There is a "bad apple" in every barrel, and sadly enough..we have an occurence with one bad one, and we think the whole barrel is contaminated! Just like life, the world is like a "fruitcake" and it there weren't a few "nuts" in it it just wouldn't be right! Thankfully, my walk thru life has not encountered many brushes with the Gestapo!
@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
Here the FIR (First Information Report) is submitted to Police and that is where everything is brewed and then follows court cases. Going by the inordinate delays, bribery and what have you it is not worth going to them. I had a problem. I was robbed but I did not lodge a complaint knowing the amount of time I would have to devote to get justice and between the time justice would be meted out and the day I lodge my complaint much water would flow under the bridge!! Going by what one sees there is no evidence to show that cases have been disposed of reasonably fast. Never prega...
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@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
7 Dec 12
Well our cops aren't nearly that bad-- thank goodness! That being said, I avoid the cops whenever I can, because most of the time nothing happens anyway. Down in Tucson AZ, cops don't even have to respond to domestic violence calls anymore, unless a deadly weapon is involved, and they don't have to fill out accident reports for car accidents unless they think there is more than 1500.00 in damage. I know people who have been waiting for court dates on various things for years, and it never happens. The cops haven't found any of my stuff that was recently stolen either-- and I doubt they will.And a lot of times over here, even when they catch a criminal, they don't stay in jail very long.
@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
Here reporting domestic violence is hardly done. It is mostly robbery and disputes. Court delays as I see are universal. I think something drastic needs to be done to hasten the process.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
7 Dec 12
Majority of Indians will think your way to avoid the delay and wastage of time. The police and Courts are wasting too much of time. My hubby met an accident in 2005. The case is still going on and I really don't have any hope it will conclude or he will get any compensation.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
I handled one situation when I met with an accident more because the lawyer - they are called "ambulance chasers" came to the hospital and asked me if I would let him handle the case. I was not in a position to talk to them but said they could get back when I was discharged. They did come and since they were more interested than I was that case got disposed of in a couple of years. Even that is a long time. But recently there was a robbery in my house, the one who robbed us had gained our trust. I do not want to get into details here but I decided against lodging a complaint you know for what reasons.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Dec 12
hi allknowing I am in California uS and I ha ve nothing but praise for our local police here. In times of trouble they have been courteous and kind to me and I have not seen any evidence of crookedness at all.One police officer helped me swear out a complaint against the fellow who ran a red light and almost hit me when I had the green light in the cross walk.The office had seen the incident and had followed the young jerk down the street in front of the library where I was headed. He arrested him for almost hitting a pedestrian and r u nning a red light. So I have the most respect for ou local police force. I kndw from what other Indians have written you have problems in India. I am so sorry to hear that.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
8 Dec 12
There seem to be problems else where in the world too. There are exceptions also and that depends on how much they can extract from a situation.
@dainy1313 (2370)
• Leon, Mexico
7 Dec 12
Hello allknowing, I think that India and Mexico have many things in common. There will pass some time til a social developement will be achieved. DonĀ“t you think so? Blessings allknowing... dainy
@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
Here, as far as rules go everything is in order but it is the corrupt individuals that spoil everything. It has become a way with these people.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
7 Dec 12
I have some incident with those men. I'd rather not say the full details, but just to some it up, some police could just go to the extent of asking too much from supposedly suspects. They would instill fear upon you, twisting some truths and scare you that if you would not give them the amount that they want, the suspects would be put to jail. I was one of their "suspects" , but in reality I was the victim because, some envious people gave some story that lead to the incidence. Gladly, I am all over it now. Looking back, I really couldn't imagine myself being in that situation.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
I am not surprised. Sometimes tables turn and the complainant becomes the culprit. I am glad it is all over now. I am sure you must have vowed never ever to go to police again!
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
7 Dec 12
I feel I am not safe around them. And I feel that they would take advantage of anybody whom they spot on to. It is hard to trust them. They seem friendly at first, but when it comes to money talk, oh God, they would turn into devils! I am just so glad that while I was around them, I wasn't alone. I was with my brother in law. He protected me from them. Maybe if I was a different person, they might have raped me or something. I am just so glad I was not alone.
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@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
The father one is from the Police the better off they are no matter which country it is!
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@raj142 (1)
7 Dec 12
police this name comes in my life lots of time.its the time of 2 years ago when i was study in +2.we are about 10 friends and we are very often for bunk, mean going for school but not reaching there one day we are planned to not go to the school and we are ready to do some masti.we went to the park and having fun .at that time police are very active to catch students like us and send back to the school.so we know that but we didn't care suddenly two thule(police man) saw us than what we all try to escape .6 out of ten was successful but 4 are caught,but thnkfully i was nt in that four.we all 6 didn't went to the school,but one deay a call comes on my dad's mobile and the principle tells the whole story.after that mera catapa.i was beaten very badly.i promise to my father nvr to do bunk.but there is a say in hindi kutte ki dumm tedhi ki tedhi, i think u all understand what i want to say............
@allknowing (137822)
• India
7 Dec 12
I cannot say that the police never do anything good. They sometimes do, as in your case!I hope you are no more bunking classes and are making India proud by being a good citizen of the country! Welcome to myLot.
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