Is the Quran not the word of God as some people claim ?

6precious102, the one who told you that Qur'an allows lying to the enemy has very obviously lied to you. Please ask them to cite you reference if they did not.

Why is Muhammad getting a revelation any different or more special than Joseph Smith getting a revelation? Didn't both of them claim to have gotten their message from an angel of God? Weren't both of them the only ones who actually heard the angel? What makes Muhammad more special than Joseph Smith? If Muhammad had a reputation of honesty, wouldn't it be easier for him to lie and to have everyone believe his lie based on his reputation? Besides, doesn't the Qu'ran allow lying to the enemy? Muhammad and Joseph Smith may have had a genuine visit from a spiritual being, but how do we know that that spiritual being was from God and not Satan? If Muhammad didn't already have a relationship with God before his revelation, he would have been a great candidate for Satan's deceit, particularly if he had the reputation of being honest. I understand that the Muslims believe that the Qu'ran is word for word perfect, but what is the proof that it is? http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Azmy/failedprophecies1.htm http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Azmy/failedprophecies2.htm It's obvious you have a lot of faith in the Qu'ran, but what actual evidence do you have that it's the word of God?

Are you make Muhammad as Smith? be fair , man. "Why would you believe anyone when there is no additional testimony to verify what that man heard?" Because He was known as honest , the Quran does not require a testimony because it is a miracle in itself "Do you believe the Qu'ran because you've tested it" I read the Gospel , and some parts from Torah,I'll read more in it. I believe in Quran because it is every thing in it is truth , every prophecy happened like the victory the Roman over the Persians [30.2:4] The Romans have been defeated (by the Persians)in the more low place of earth. But, in a few years after their defeat they shall become the victors. To Allah belongs the Command before and after, and on that Day the believers will rejoice " . What is it that convinces you that yours is the word of God? I believe that God sent Torah and Gospel also, what make me belive that it is the word of God for many things and miracles in it . You know? many Christians tried to discover mistakes in it , some of them converted to Islam for the scientific miracles in it , today I wrote a discussion about creation of heavens and earth , but I don't send it yet .

There is no substantial distortion and far less than the editing and abrogation of the Quran. The earliest gospels date from within a hundred years of Jesus and there is evidence the first gospel was written 8 years after his resurrection. The first Church was founded by those that walked the earth at the same time as he all the best, urban

" There is no substantial distortion and far less than the editing and abrogation of the Quran." What? " there is no editing and abrogation of the Quran." do you know the meaning of this verse ? : [15.9] It is We who sent down the Quran, and We we will privates . " The Almighty says: (I mentioned we went (the Quran) and we will privates ) said: I am of the Quran to privates from increased something goes wrong, is not from it, or detract from it what it is and limitations of its provisions and statutes . can any one do any thing in a book God Himslf said that he wiil keep it from any change?

You always forget distortion, which happened in the Bible, and the change that happened in Christianity

No argument here-- it definitely says that in the Bible--every version I own. And for those who believe the Bible, this Scripture, is indeed the breathing out of God, that is entirely true. Of course, people who Believe that Allah really did talk to Mohammed, believe in the Qur'an-- Jews believe in the Old testament (Torah) and the commentaries (Talmud). The Latter Day Saints believe in the Book Of Mormon, wherein Jesus ministered in America. When we finally die (which I have done twice, myself)--then we find out what God thinks of the whole thing. My personal philosophy is pretty clear, I think Nice set of quotes, by the way, and God Bless you as well

chrystalia doesn't necessarily mean they weren't all talking to the same God." Of course , the three religion came down from God , and the religion of God is one , didn't change from prophet to another , you will ask : from where these differs ? these from human , in Jewish you find that God is one, how it be three in Christianity? ,then be one in Islam , He Almighty one in the three religion , but people changed in the Christianity and made the Trinity .

allisonkk99, I believe that Jesus is God's word, but he isn't His son, or a god, because there is not God but Allah (God), if there more one God to the universe , will not upright things of the universe

What you read is not Quran, the word of God but its translation. You are reading a translation which can NEVER be as good as the original, no matter how accurate it is. Then you are trying to understand it without having full knowledge of the situations, customs, traditions and practices of the people and time this book was revealed. Then you are coming with mind already set to view God a different way than how He is presented in the Qur'an. All these things add up and you get to the conclusion stated in your post. If you really want to understand what Quran says, you will have to get out of the influence of Paul and look at the God of Torah (the Old Testament), then look at the God of Quran and you will see the consistency. Yes We will be judged by God on what we do and also WHAT WE BELIEVE.

Naseem00...There is no conclusion in my comment. I'm saying every one should read it for themselves and reach their own conclusions. In the Old Testament, God has a very special name which is mentioned many times. See Deuteronomy 6:4. Is that name in the Qu'ran?

1hopefulman , When I read the Quran I feel at peace inside, you know? when I was worry, I read some verses, my soul be calm. my reply: yes I feel that it is word of God, it make me love the good to all people, Quran not make us hate the other as the others say, there is the sanctity of blood if you refer to the fighting verses, this not happen, but in case the other assaulted on us only

You see God through the eyes of mankind. You see God as controlling, demanding, ruling and having rights over others. You do not know God at all. God is at a much higher level than mankind's view. God is Unconditional Love. Unconditional Love does what is in the best interest of others. God is teaching all His children to love unconditionally. If satan really exists then satan is also getting these lessons. Satan would be far too busy learning these lessons than having time to do all what people blame on him. In time, all God's child learn and grow. When they acquire great wisdom, they will realize that there is only one answer. Unconditional Love. So if satan exists send him to me, I will point satan in the right direction. Every child of God can be fixed. Mankind might discard but God is capable of fixing it all. I will be more than happy to shine light in satan's eyes. I certainly do not fear satan.

"First, let me say that the satan does not exist" that is not true, Satan from the Jinn, he was existing before Adam, he is enemy to Adam and his sons, God sent Torah to Muses, Gospel to Jesus, and Quran to Muhammad. I'm sure that God love us, He Almighty want the best to us you can read the Quran on this link: http://www.e-quran.com/language/index.html of Course God watch us and know every thing we did, " God is at a much higher level than mankind." Surely He is God the Creator of all things, and Why be the ability of the human creature next to the power of God ? We are required to think in what around us , what God created for us, and try as much as we can submission to God Almighty, Is not this the most basic rights of God on us?

" You do not know God at all " If I don't know God at all ? who know Him , you ? you still search about him , I knew my God from His words , from the universe which He created , from every thing I see around me , from my body as a human and the graces which He gave to me ? all when I see these things I say Sobhan Allah ? the Creator of every thing . " I certainly do not fear satan. " So you recognize the existence of the devil? Does not give him the opportunity to whisper to you and , be stronger than him .

Islam does not call for terrorism, as some like to say , Muslim will not abuse the other fighting only in defense of himself and his land: [8.61] If they incline to peace, incline to it also, and put your trust in Allah. Surely, He is the Hearing, the Knowing."

Sure everybody not love terrorism. God shows us the good ways, and who chooses evil path , he bears as a result of his work . if you want to read Quran , you can enter here : http://www.e-quran.com/language/index.html

If you are right,then the terrorists are certainly wrong.Religions show us the ways to God or Bhagawan or Allah.Ways may be different from each other,but the destination is the same.Allah,God and Ram are the names of the same Almighty.

We have a parable here say " Repeating on ears , is stronger than magic"what you want from children whom said to them that Muhammad was false prophet , and satan who said the Holy Quran to him , are those will believe you when you say to them the opposite? , some of them who searched about the truth, and compare with what said to them , then he can choose .

Welcome to my discussion , marguicha . Did you read the Holy Quran before ?

I have not read the Qram, exept for small amounts. I have read the Bible and small parts of other Holy books. I respect them all, but think that Gog must be one for all human beings. In fact, I feel that God is far and beyond us: we are all God`s creatures from the dust of the galaxies to the smallest stone.

of course we can`t push them to believe what we believe it`s their choice it`s our choice to be moslem so simple

We say to them the truth , Who want to believe it welcome with him , who don't believe , he is a free .

Alhamdulillah for grace Islam .

There are many things not mentioned in the previous books and mentioned the Quran , Quran is the Constitution of life, how we live our lives and how to solve our problems .. Etc.

Yes.... I am very agree.

As the scientific discoveries that appear to prove sincerity of the Quran and it's from God , how can Muhammad knew a lot of information about the universe and creation of human ? this is information can't know it only God , and Muhammad was a human .

humairaku, it`s good explanation...it will be easier if every people try to compare what Al Quran said and try to compare in our daily life.. and they will get surprised that before the modern scientics, our prophet Muhammad had said something about the technology) for example by Guide of Holy Quran.. it will be easier say that It`s not Muhammad creature.. Holy Al Quran is based on God..

I tell those who say that it is of the devil: Do devil seek refuge with in God from himself ? : [7.200] When satan provokes you seek refuge in Allah; He is the Hearing, the Knowing. " [16.98] When you recite the Koran, seek refuge in Allah from the stoned satan" [23.97] And say: 'O my Lord, I seek refuge in You from evil suggestions of the satans."

That angel is not associate of God but His servant.

See? Already it's just hearsay! The recording of a copy of the word of G*d. When do we hear the word straight from the mouth of G*d? (or from the closest thing mankind can hear ... the mouth of 'His Spirit personified')?

"There was great evidence that proved that Jesus Christ Existed. " I know that Jesus , peace be upon him existed , Quran proved this . If you are not a follower of Christ then you are not on the good side of God " Who said that we aren't believe in him ? we believe in all prophets , to be a believer? we must do that . "There was not any prophetic word in the ancient manuscripts of the Bible prophesied about Muhammad" Muhammad was call of Abraham :[2.129] Our Lord, send among them a Messenger from them who shall recite to them Your verses and teach them the Book and wisdom, and purify them; You are the Mighty, the Wise. " Prophecy of Moses : "And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them." Deuteronomy " 18:18:19I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deuteronomy 33:2:3 " Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words." Mount Paran in Mecca, where he lived Ismail son of Abraham, peace be upon them, a great-grandfather of Muhammad, peace be upon him, and that Muhammad mentioned by name in the Bible, but has been translated, Do the names translated names? "Genesis 21:20:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." Habakkuk "3-3:4."God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise .And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power." Bishara Jesus : " Matthew 11:11"- "Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." ?John 14 :16:17 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. " you can watch this : http://youtu.be/Ew2ce3uoIxo http://youtu.be/gqKyF6VF4zo Islam is a religion that is not in line with the divine arrangement of the Creator " What do you mean by this , can you explain?

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