Inconsiderate people should face consequences
By Vnyard
@Vnyard (286)
Philippines
December 8, 2012 3:26am CST
I have this online business and I have been supplying overrun shirts to this business man from Italy. We had a deal that for every shipment I would complete he would give me a commission. As mentioned earlier, 2 months have past and he has not given me a single penny. The last shipment with him, I had an estimate of 3 boxes based on the amount or shirts ordered. Turned out that the sizes were different and it became 4 boxes instead. He sent me a payment that is short for 1 box. I was not going to send him the 4th box without him paying but I figured we have a good business relationship for 2 years and he would pay for it the next order. He was getting in trouble with his client because the shipment did not go as fast that time. So to save him from trouble, I sent him all the boxes.
I have waited for months for him to pay his balance and he still has not paid me until now. He sent me a message that he is closing his shop because Italy is getting so strict with taxes and all. So what does that mean? I have to pay for his balance on the shipment? He sounded like he was not even interested in closing the deal with me. What an A-hole...I am really pissed off and I don't know what to do with this. I guess filing for a case is useless since he is all the way in Italy. Really hope karma gets to him faster than lightning!
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5 responses
@Jeffery_superman (179)
• China
9 Dec 12
Though you kept a good business relationship with this guy for almost two years, you still need to protect your own interest on business.
In my opinion, this guy was not intended to kept his payment initially. You have described that you two keep a healthy business relationship for a long time, so he maybe really confront some crisis for money. He choosed to leave the city for protecting himself against payment.
You got the point that it is meaningless to fill for a case because he is abroad. You lost a big fortune maybe, however, it really taught you a lesson that you need to sign a contract with your partner everytime you want to make a deal. Accidents will always happen in a business, and friendship will never solve them but contracts will do.
I hope my suggestion will be helpful to you and you can learn it from this unfortune.
@Vnyard (286)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
I realized that even if you have a written contract with a person, it will still be invalid if you are both on the other ends of the world. I still have our agreement and deal through emails and facebook messages. I saved them but it won't serve me any good the way I see it.
Thanks for the sugeestion, I'd be better at it next time if opportunity permits
@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
8 Dec 12
Karma is not about revenge. If you wish bad things upon people, bad things will happen to you. You need to ask him if there is anything you can do for him. Be kind to him and then, kindness will return to you. Forgive him because if you don't, that anger will be part of your business from now on. Write him a letter - a very polite and professional letter - asking him how he can make payments and help to close the deal. If he doesn't respond, then you need to move on - emotionally and professionally. Karma will catch up to him but Karma will catch up to you, too. Be kind.
@CosmoOwl12 (411)
• United States
9 Dec 12
I definitely agree that she should be courteous and professional. As they say, "kill him with kindness". I don't think that she should just move on if she doesn't get her payment. I think she should find out if there's a way to report him to the authorities if he doesn't respond to her messages. I also think that with future customers she should have them pay first and then they will get their merchandise. Afterall, that's how it works everywhere else. Never once have I received something BEFORE I actually paid for it. Oh and I also agree that if you wish bad things on people it will come back to you. I hope my response doesn't sound rude because that was not my intention.
@Vnyard (286)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
I never wished bad things for this guy, I just said the inconsideration should have consequences and that he's gonna get he's karma. I have and still send him messages regarding his balance politely. I know he reads it but he is not responding. I don't know how I am able to report him maybe any of you has an idea you can share with. I just wrote this here to vent out my frustration because if not, I might not be kind and polite to him anymore.
Also about sending him the box before paying it, it sounds like that not but not really. The estimation was 3 boxes so he paid for 3 boxes but turned out to be 4 boxes so 1 box was not paid. Since he is a costumer for so long already I was confident he'd pay that one box...I figured, why not, right? BUT this was the result of my being kind to a long time client.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
8 Dec 12
I always wonder how come people send articles without asking for a payment first. If I order something I have to pay the full price. No matter if people will send it to me or not. The fact someone is buying more with you or for a longer period should not change anything to that. You should at least ask for a part of the payment and also charge adm. costs if someone is not willing to pay. Especially in these times (economic crises). I wonder if there is a way you can get your money back, I would give it a try no matter if it's abroad or not. The thing is if you won't do that this guy will do it again to someone else. So please give it a try. If it's not possible you should see what to change about your delivery conditions. I found out myself (and so did others) that those who have plenty of money frequently pay smaller amounts without any hesitations but if it comes to pay a big bill you have to wait for it or they will never pay. It's a common problem over here. The one with less money pay at once.
@Vnyard (286)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
I had this one slip of judgement on this transaction. You know when some client demand the full price even with the shipping and you can't have the exact price because unlike freight shipment, shipment per box will always differ because of the size of the box they have to use versus the weight. Since I have to order the shirts from someone else I can;t really know the exact weight and size of the box. So I estimate...It must be because of the fluctuating forex rate or the fact that gas charges here in the Philippines has been fluctuating that time as well. I estimated less than usual.
I am still trying to figure out how to get him pay his balance and still messaging him on facebook.
@Arieles (2473)
• United States
8 Dec 12
I think this guy scammed you and had no intentions of paying for those boxes of shirts. I don't think ever intended to pay you for them. Maybe he went belly up on his deal with the other guy, and you were caught in the cross fire. That's a lot of money to be lost too, and just in shipping alone. Yes, inconsiderate people should have consequences and something tells me, he will have consequences..maybe later, but he will have them.
