3.9% increase in SS benifit countered by 5% increase in Medicare fee
By stealthy
@stealthy (8181)
United States
December 10, 2012 6:00pm CST
So they announced that Social Security payments would increase by 3.9% in 2013. But they kept pretty quiet about the Medicare fee for Part B going up by 5%. In my case it doesn't quite wipe it out completely but it might for some people or couples.
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@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
11 Dec 12
It will wipe out the savings for quite a few people, I would think--and this is far from the last sneaky tax, or fee, we have coming to us this coming year. I have the vet coming out tomorrow to check on my alpacas--I normally have them vetted in January, but with the medical device tax coming on board in January, I called my vet--and sure enough, his fees are going up by a larger percentage than they have in previous years. My doctor fees are going up as well. There are other hidden fees in Obamacare for medicare patients as well as adjustments to coverage...we shall see what else happens, I guess.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
The process for changes in Social Security wages and Medicare fees were established before Obama became President and have nothing to do with Obamacare.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
Will an additional $5 per month wipe out everyone's savings? That's what the increase is.
@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
15 Dec 12
It's going to offset the COLA increase for a whole lot of people--and many I know are already living on the edge, and dipping into savings. In addition, Obamacare increases fees for some procedures, lowers the limits on others, increases the costs of some medication co-pays, and places coverage caps in place for Medicare B as well (starts in 2014, I believe though it might be this coming year). The law has 20 separate taxes in it so far, and that's after the ones reconciliation dropped out that may return. No matter how you do the math, patients will be paying more--and that money will probably come out of savings of some sort.
The processes that determine cost of living allowance increases and the percentage increase (which 5% is actually the base increase--there is also an increased deductible coming up) is based on a set of economic indicators and adjusted for inflation annually. The formula itself is generally looked at and re-approved every 2 years or so.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
13 Dec 12
My increase was only 1.7% a whopping $17...the 3.9% is what I thought is the normal...but for 2013 my increase was only 1.7%. Medicare I haven't gotten increase ...yet.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
12 Dec 12
I agree with you. My husband got his statement in the mail yesterday about the increase, and the first thing we noticed was how much medicare had gone up. I think he ended up with about $5 left of the so called increase after medicare. I imagine that my mother will probably not be lucky enough to keep any of her increase thanks to medicare. Sigh.....I wonder what other hidden fees are coming in the new year?
@mehale (2200)
• United States
13 Dec 12
True it is. You would think, especially with the new health care law that maybe they would allow people to drop medicare and get private insurance. It would probably be better than the medicare, but who knows considering the insurance and health care is now more or less government run and controlled.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
12 Dec 12
My daughter gets to keep $11.00 of her increase and the rest is going to medicare. The medicare that's basically useless, but pretty much forced on you.
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@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
People are allowed to drop Medicare part B NOW. Number 1, you don't HAVE to sign up for it. You can opt out of it. Number 2, if you have it, you can ask to drop it, however, once you drop Medicare Part B you can no longer rejoin.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
11 Dec 12
Hmmm sounds like it's going to totally wipe out my daughter's. I figure she's going to see around $12.00 increase and from the sound of it the medicare fee will wipe that out.
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@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
As I stated above, the rules for changes in Social Security wages and Medicare fees were established long before Obama became President and have nothing to do with Obamacare. The increase in payments for Medicare Part B is only about $5 per month.
You can drop Medicare Part B any time you like but just try to buy medical insurance for $105 per month that will pay 80% you doctor's bills.
What should be of greater concern than the increase in Medicare charges are the suggestions to raise the minimum age to get Medicare coming from REPUBLICANS.
@stealthy (8181)
• United States
14 Dec 12
If your relatively healthy like me, it doesn't pay any where near 80% because of the annual deductible. You seem to forget that it was Clinton and the Democrats that made up to 85% of Social Security taxable if you lived frugally and saved and invested and thus have other income.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
15 Dec 12
Yes but Medicare is essentially insurance. If you own a house with a mortgage, you are required to buy home owner's insurance. If you own a car, your state will make you buy car insurance. Your deductible for your home owner's or car insurance is probably higher than the Part B Medicare deductible ($147 for 2013)yet you are less likely to collect on those policies. As with normal insurance, you also can not collect enough to make a profit.
Don't forget it was Ronald Reagan who first made Social Security income taxable.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
The Medicare fee for part B is going up by $5. It's hardly going to wipe out the increase in Social Security payments.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
14 Dec 12
You seem to imply it by only listing the percentages. The 3.9% should be multiplied by over $1000 per month to get the increase in SS wages while the %5 should be multiplied by $99 to get the increase in Medicare payments.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
14 Dec 12
ONLY 5%? Just wait till we go over the "Fiscal Cliff". It will be a 200% increase if republicans get their way, and your SS will be cut by an equal amount.
Someone has to fund the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, and it looks like you just drew the short straw!!!!