Bank launders money, and no one goes to jail.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
December 12, 2012 12:11pm CST
In another example of the joke our judicial system has become, a British bank that operates in the United States was fined $1.9 BILLION for laundering money for Mexican drug lords, and foreign countries that have sanctions placed against them. This may seem like a harsh punishment, until you learn the facts of the case. The bank was warned twice in the last 10 years about the transactions that were found to be considered money laundering. The bank also removed identification numbers from transactions from foreign countries like the Iran, and the Sudan to the United States. There is little doubt this money was used to fund the evil acts of these countries, and gangs.
The justice department went to great lengths to defend the fine, and it's decision not to prosecute ANYONE at the bank. The reasoning they give is that the leaders of the bank in London were the ones that failed to change their structure to deal with these transactions (they also said that most of the people left the company, which apparently gets you off the hook for anything bad you did at a company in the justice departments eyes). They also were afraid of taking the company down leading to the firing of all of the people. After 9/11 we saw many charities that were fronts for terrorist taken down, and no one was afraid of the jobs lost then. No one really knows how much money that bank made on these transactions, but the bank made $16.8 BILLION in profits last year. Do you think the justice department should go after the executives in the US who didn't do anything to stop this money laundering? And, do you think that the executives in England should be prosecuted like they did the executives in the wire tapping scandal?
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/12/news/companies/hsbc-money-laundering/index.html?source=cnn_bin
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@robspeakman (1700)
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12 Dec 12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - This makes me proud to be British
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - It really is hilarious.
Well done lads!
The really funny thing is they are probably still doing right now under your very noses.
If one is to believe the crazy conspiracy theories - The CIA has been doing this since the 60's
Business has no religious or moral boundaries
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
12 Dec 12
Rob, the sad part is that the bankers that came up with this, are not at other banks in London doing the same thing. Just wait till one of them finance another terrorist attack in the UK, and see how your press lights them up. Nothing will happen to them, until the public forces the government to prosecute them.
@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
15 Dec 12
Ali Baba and his 40 thieves had more principals than your average banking organization does. They should have all been prosecuted, and the bank should have had it's assets frozen until they cleaned up, or left. Banks internationally get away with things like this on a daily basis--because it's where the real money can be made--it isn't just a US problem, it's a world wide problem. Unfortunately, very few bank executives, and few corporate executives, ever have to pay for their crimes. They all deserve a long vacation in the nearest Club Fed. And the bank who hired them should have to pay the bill for the prison time as well. Same with corporate executives--jail them, fine the company, and make them pay for the upkeep of the prisoner. The only language bankers understand is money, after all--seeing their colleagues in jail wouldn't bother them at all, but having to PAY for keeping them in jail certainly would. With banks, and most other organizations, the best punishment is to hit them where it really hurts--in the wallet.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
13 Dec 12
In answer to you two questions, yes. What are we teaching future generations by not going after them?
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
13 Dec 12
We're teaching them the wrong thing.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
12 Dec 12
Fat, Holder wasn't the one who spoke at this press conference, but he is the one that decides what to do with cases like this. The prosecution of Arthur Anderson happened under the Bush administration, and that is what many are using as an example to why we shouldn't prosecute companies.
I am sure that donations had a LOT to do with this decision, and this is another reason we need to get money out of politics.
@koopharper (7601)
• Canada
12 Dec 12
I'm glad there was a substantial fine however I do agree with you that this doesn't go nearly far enough. This is a slap on the wrist.
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@marguicha (223776)
• Chile
12 Dec 12
It seems that nothing will happen to you if you have enough money or power (or both). If a common person steals a penny, he goes to jail for some time. It has always been that way and it will always be that way until we, the people, put a stop to it.
@free_man (7330)
• United States
12 Dec 12
Hi Thegreatdebater. Wow what a great discussion. Proves a point that if you have enough money and backing you can get away with just about anything. They don't want to loose what money they are making from this bank that is why they don't do anything. The almighty dollar rules some people. I think that they should punish those that are guilty no matter what their status in this life is. From the money the bank made the government had to be paid something don't you think?
@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
12 Dec 12
Thanks a ton for sharing this discussion. Well it is such a shocking incident for me and i think such issues has to be dealt with properly.
Unless and until such matters are not taken seriously, we will get to hear such cases in the future also. The security in the banks has to be strengthened also. Bank robbers have become very intelligent and they can strike crimes in the banks any day. Police department has to act strongly so that the culprits can be sent to jail as soon as possible.
What say?
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
12 Dec 12
thanks for sharing.. that goes on here in Mexico all the time. I was even told people in usa are now using mexican banks like many rich people use switzerland banks.