My Son Accused of Racism

@cynthiann (18602)
Jamaica
December 19, 2012 2:24pm CST
My youngest son is the GM of a large hotel in London. I am so proud of him but that is another story. He called me yesterday and we had a lovely long chat and then he told me that he has been accused of racism. Evidently three members of his staff from the same department have accused him of racism and he has to appear before a tribunal for them to decide if there is any truth in the charges. Whilst he was telling me he was laughing so hard but I was horrified and asked for more details as I thought he could lose his job. This is a serious ofence in the U.K. However, it appears that there were two vacancies for promotion in this department and none of the applicants from this department met his standard and so he didn't promote in house and they were angry so decided to accuse him of racism. His laughter was because the three persons are black and my son is bi-racial so no way would this ever be considered to be racist not to upgrade them to a higher position. When I heard this then I laughesd too as they should have thought up a different reason. So, have you ever been accused of racism?
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• St. Peters, Missouri
20 Dec 12
I was accused of behaving as a racist when I taught in public schools. Fortunately, it never went anywhere. I understand racism is a problem. In many cases, more like an epidemic. I do everything I can not to behave in a racist manner. What galls me though, is when someone uses this fact, that racism is an issue, just to get something they want. It makes the issue of racism sound like a joke. Just because someone is of a minority and doesn't get something, it does not mean the minority status had anything to do with it. I believe if people didn't flock to call everyone racist for every little perceived slight, racism could be seen for the real issue it is. I'm sorry your son got mixed up in this. But it sounds that he has a healthy attitude toward the whole thing.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
You have made some very valid points here and we do have to be careful but people call 'wolf' too often. My son will be fine thank you. The tribunal is just a formality so thee is really no threat to his job. I see that you are new to mylot - so welcome and I hope that you enjoy making friends here
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
Yes, ther are still issues but the attitude of the indiviual can be a hindrance or an asset.Mybi racial daughter worked in North Carolina and I was terrfied of her facing racism as she was only 22 years old but she loves the world and the world loved her in return. she made so many friends that she is till in cointact with both balck and white and it was an incredible experience. She did not look for racism as it was out of her experience. Howeve, a few people were surprised when I was introduced to them as her mother ....
• United States
20 Dec 12
Good point. People who are abusing the system to try to get ahead are making it difficult for people who actually face an injustice. I know a lot of people who think that racism is just a thing of the past that gets overused, but I know for a fact that there are still issues with it.
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@urbandekay (18278)
20 Dec 12
"...my son is bi-racial so no way would this ever be considered to be racist" Is this not a curious thing to say, it seems to imply that the bi-racial cannot be racist, yet there is amply evidence to the contrary all the best, urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
21 Dec 12
Yes, some bi-racial people are prejudice against blacks, some blacks are prejudice against whites or the bi-racial. Racism is prevalent in every group and can be found even between tribes of the same race all the best, urban
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
Am I wromg in assuming that a bi racial person would only be accused of being racist to a white person or Asian, Arab etc? Not quite sure what you mean my friend
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
Now I am understanding - it is what we call the 'browning' system. Or prejudice with regard to what shad of brown/black you may be. This is so sad and yes it does exist but not to a large extent.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Dec 12
I don't think I have been. Richard was once. Jewish employee that he either fired or wrote up or something. When he told them that my dad was Jewish, they shut up about it.
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• United States
20 Dec 12
I didn't know you are part Jewish Dawn..Cool...
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Dec 12
ON the wrong side as my friend Carol used to say.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
My children are part Portuguese Jew too and again on the wrong side but I believe that if they so desired they could join a reformed Synagogue. I know that I got the word wrong and then of course they are not circumsised. My husband wanted them to be but they couldn't find the thingy to do it in the hospital so it wasn't done with the first child. Dr's then advised that the second should not be circumsised as the first wasn't. My husband went to Jerusalem three times and loved it.
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@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Dec 12
Aren't people strange sometimes? Because they get the upgrade they had to have some reason to come back on him about. I would have to laugh too. It's a crazy world!
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Dec 12
ANd we just need to make the very best of our little corner of it.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
Yes we do! Wise words
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
It certainly is a crazy world my friend.
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20 Dec 12
Hi cynthiann Its a pitty for your son to be in such a trouble but he should have been careful with that issue since laughing at someone implies a meaning.henceforth he should have just been himself for being a GM of that hotel.More to that UK is known to be a racial country but things are a little bit okay there now because i have been involve in one or two racial abuses in the country where i live now since am also a black.But i dont mind being a victim of racism.Still life goes on..................
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
No - you misunderstood what I said. he did not laugh at them but he laughed with me as he considers himself to be black - although he skin is brown - and the persons who accused him were black
@mranjaan (136)
20 Dec 12
So sad. Racism is an international problem. Everyone is misleading it. Equality is the best for humans.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
I so agree with you
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
19 Dec 12
If I have ever been accused of racism I certainly do not remember it. I hope that all people who are considering this charge against your son think carefully about the entire situation. So the charge is that he is racist because he did not promote any one of those three? I think they have not thought things through very well at all.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
20 Dec 12
It is easy to sling mud, even when it is stupid to do so. The thing is, they will get their hands dirtier than they will ever get your son. I was on a classroom team that was accused by parents of abusing their son. . . because they were abusing their son and were afraid we would find out, and accuse them. The detectives basically said they knew that it was very unlikely to be true but were obligated to investigate. The actual story told was preposterous. Maybe that is what is really going on. . . THEY are racist and do not want it found out, and expect to be kow towed to because there are three of them. It will all be fine in the end.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
I think that hyou are right. People can be dso devious and this always surprises me - and it shouldn't.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
How can he be racist when it is obvious that he is mixed race too? I am of Irish blood and his father was a mixture of black and Portuguese Jew?
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
20 Dec 12
From the usual Obama minions or people who do not like pro-lifers,Christians, etc. I think they use racism as an excuse or they want only black people to get positions of authority no matter if thy are qualified or not. It does in their eyes make a difference as to shades.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
21 Dec 12
Unfortunately but true. I think it has to do with fear. I'm being fastidious, but sometimes with what I hear, I would like to know when can I apply to be a racist.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
ah, another thought provoking response
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@AmbiePam (93882)
• United States
20 Dec 12
No, but oddly I've had racism directed at me. You think white people wouldn't get that. I've only had it happen once, and I feel sorry for any black person or Hispanic person or Asian person who must face it a lot more than a white woman.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
You have a good point there Ambie. I too have been the recipient of racism but not where I live.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
22 Dec 12
They weren't very smart when they made the accusations were they? I have not been accused of being racist...it doesn't matter to me what kind of package anyone comes in....if we all went into surgery and they took out our hearts and laid them on a table, they would all be the same color wouldn't they? And that is where I decide if a person is true and good.....by their heart and what's in it!
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
23 Dec 12
Well said, my friend. It is what is in the heart that matters!
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
20 Dec 12
I hate when someone plays the racist card just to get their way. I never have been in a situation but I have heard stories and it really ticks me off... My husband and I both have some good friends that are black and they are good hard workers and friendly. Then there are the ones that do absolutely NOTHING and no one can do anything about it or they'll cry "racist" I am glad your son is bi-racial, I hope he puts these idiots in their place... The most recent story I heard was a position of someone in the medical field. The girl who I met is white, but she is married to a black man and has bi-racial sons. She thinks a black woman was placed with her because she makes mistakes, (which is not good if one is in the medical field), hoping she will be the one to get rid of her because it would be hard to call her a racist..
• United States
20 Dec 12
No you didn't tell me that, so does your husband also keep the Biblical feasts and festivals? As for asking the employee what racism was, that is funny, I wonder how many people really know what it means. I have an idea, but worth looking up and see exactly...
• United States
21 Dec 12
Oh I'm sorry, but he only observed the Seder? Not any of the other feasts? That is interesting. Yes, I can't imagine my family having their own cemetery, that is cool...
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
My husband was a mixture of black and Poertuguese Jew. Did I mention this to you already? Or maybe I amswered Dawn. So it is really very stupid of them. Evidently when one investigator asked the employee was racism was he could not answer the question
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• India
20 Dec 12
Hi friend, good to hear that you have a great chat with your son and sad to know about the issues. I hate Racism, it is really silly to accuse a person based on it. Hope all the problems will be solved soon
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
Thank you. I amsure that the issues will soon be speedily resolved
@robspeakman (1700)
19 Dec 12
The race card does get played a lot when someone think something has not gone their way... It is unfortunate. I am sure that your son will be fine
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
But how can they accuse him of being racist when he is bi-racial? so ridiculous but he has been assured by his company that it is a non issue but of course he has to attend
@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
19 Dec 12
That is so sad. I hope he is fairly treated and I hope that at the tribunal, it is fair for all involved. I have never been accused of being racist. My husband was unfairly fired from his job and he was not able to appeal it. It wasn't a racial situation but it still was not a fair decision. So, although your son can laugh, it is a serious situation. Accusations of any kind are difficult to deal with, so I would make sure your son can show that he treats others fairly. I wish your son all the best.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
Thank you - it will be all right as it is not a racist issue. He can prove that the people who work for him were not worthy of being promoted.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
19 Dec 12
In the recent national election in my country, the U.S. many people if they didn't vote for President Obama, or if they disagree with his policies, are being called racist. Imagine, somebody not of the liberal party, not voting liberal! Laughable too, if not so sad.. Now the U.S. is more divided than they've been in my life time.. race division it seems to some, class division, and of zowie, political party division.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
That is so sad My son will be fine but of course Mnagement has to meet to discuss the charges
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Dec 12
hi cynthiaan thats just so silly a nd y es I would laugh too as for one thing have not people ever considered if they were not promoted to a higher position maybe just maybe it was only because the boss did not find them qualified for the position not because of skin color for goodness sakes. I have never been accused of racism or if so not to my face. i just do not worry about the color of ones skin, only abvout ones personality and character.Thus I have friends with different skin colors and they are all my friends just like here on mylot.
@silverfox09 (4708)
• United States
19 Dec 12
Never , its not a thing here so there is now law made against it either , well that is what I think . I never even know anyone that is racist so I dont know anything about those case except what I see on tv . I hope everything works out though .
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
It is just ironic that my son who is mixed race is accused of being a racist.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
21 Dec 12
No, I've never been accused of racism and if I was ever accused of racism, I can tell you that someone would be very mistaken. You see, I'm a person that loves all people because of the fact that they are all human. My best friends in college included one of the two African American students in our school, a Russian immigrant and a caucasian young man. We really were a mixed bag. Now that I've got children of my own, I actually wanted them to go to a school where there wasn't a clear racial majority. Their school has pretty much an even divide between caucasian students, African American students and Hispanic students. You see, I would never be the parent that would decide to send my children to an out of district school because they were not going to be in the majority.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 12
You have a very healthy atitude to life and I feel the same way as you do on this topic. From ever since when I fill out a form that required what race I belonged to - I always wrote 'human'.
@bounce58 (17385)
• Canada
21 Jan 13
So, how did all this went? I hope he didn't lose his job over this. Not racism, but this reminds me of one of my experiences promoting people within. In a previous job, in a previous life, half way around the world, I ran projects with some staff under me. When it was time to promote people, I had to let some people go. I too got accused of discrimination by the people that didn't get promoted. They said it was because of the school they were from. They said I only promoted people from my alma mater. I also laughed it off because they didn't know we came from the same school.
• United States
19 Dec 12
If they did not meet the qualifications there is no point in giving them the job. Technically, hiring someone from the same department to fill up the vacancy is kind of unfair and sometimes taken as a crime because it prevents hiring of the outside eligible candidates. Sometimes, however, it is the way to go. I don't think there is any case against your son. He is safe. He can show the evidence that the qualifications required are absent in those guys. I have never been accused of racism. However, once when I was in high school one Afro American girl wanted to see my vanity purse to know what cosmetics I used. When she was handling it one eyeliner was going to drop on the ground. So I tried to lay my hand beneath the purse. The girl took it in a different sense and told me something like, "You are thinking that I am going to steal your stuff because I am black". This shocked me a lot. I did not have any of such things in mind. I was just trying to prevent the eyeliner from dropping on the group. I tried to explain to her that I wasn't thinking anything like that. But she was too offended to understand it.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Dec 12
You must have felt so embarrassed but then she had probably suffered some bad experience previously to make her say something like that. My son will be okay.