Can I survive Christmas with all the family drama?
By hoseasmate
@hoseasmate (720)
United States
December 22, 2012 8:02am CST
Well those of you who may have read about the Thanksgiving drama over the divorce announcement probably don't even want an update on the Christmas drama that is unfolding! So now my son-in-law has chosen the dad's side and invited his dad and his sister over for Christmas and not included the mother. I'm angry because I cautioned both my daughter and him NOT to take sides. Let it all work out and maintain a discreet distance from both parties. Now, I don't feel like I can participate in the festivities because I REFUSE to take sides and think that if I go that I am condoning the shunning of his mother. I WILL NOT take sides or be drawn into this drama. The mother keeps asking my daughter if I will be there (I don't know why)and she keeps saying that she doesn't know. I have never, repeat never, been close or accepted by these in-laws so I certainly won't miss them. However, I really am angry that my plans to be with this set of grandkids for Christmas (it's their year) isn't taking place because my son-in-law got sucked into the drama. What ever happened to the Norman Rockwell Christmas? Is it just another myth?
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12 responses
@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
22 Dec 12
Write your daughter and son-in-law a short note, asking that they bring your grandkids over for an intimate, quiet dinner, perhaps a day or two after Christmas. If either of them ask you to bring along anyone else, just reiterate that you want time with them, JUST them. There is no reason to bring all of your son-in-law's family drama into your home.
My mother didn't get along with her in-laws for a number of years after they married, but they eventually patched things up, enough that my MOTHER was present when my grandmother passed (dad was home with us kids). I tried hard to get along with my in-laws, but my MIL drove me batty! Didn't stop me from helping to track them down during a flood for my daughter though.
Everyone deserves peace during the holidays. Let your SIL deal with HIS family drama; it sounds as if there is more than you're sharing here (or privy to the knowledge even!) and it would be best for you to just stay far away.
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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
23 Dec 12
That's so terrible on your grandchildren! Is there something else going on that is causing this woman's family as well as your SIL to totally shun her? I'm glad that you'll be able to have a family Christmas without the drama!
I divorced my husband in 2004, yet he continues to cause me problems. I haven't spent Christmas with my daughter (who is 19 now!) in years because he feels that he's the better parent. I haven't been able to speak with her since before her birthday in June so I have nothing to look forward to this year. Don't ever let that happen to you and your family!
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@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
25 Dec 12
When the father of my children and I divorced he choose to exclude all of us from his new life with his new wife. I'm sure that made her extremely happy. I don't want to see children treated like that and I hope that these people can get this worked out so that the children don't have to suffer and don't have to pick sides. The SIL already has picked sides, but that is another story in itself. I think that the woman's entire family is dysfunctional, but that is probably just because I don't think like them and I am very different from them spiritually, physically, and financially. There is no common ground except the SIL. I hope to always be able to work out the differences with my kids and grandkids, but we have been known to go extended periods of time without contact because we must agree to disagree over some issue that is of vital importance and the other doesn't seem to respect that stance. In the end we continue to work things out and after the cooling off period we are able to enjoy each others company again.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
I know that my daughter doesn't even want to be involved either. She doesn't want to take sides and she wants to remain neutral because both parties are her children's grandparents. I hope she can maintain that neutrality. My SIL has already decided that his mom is wrong and that she won't be inlcuded and my daughter and I both object to that. I know that I will not be anywhere near their house because I am not entitled to control their environment. However, I can control what goes on at my house and that's where we'll have our family Christmas!
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
22 Dec 12
First of all: christmas is nothing more as (remembering) the birth of jesus or a birthday party. The rest we all make up the way we like and there is a lot of emotions/feelings/habits which have nothing to do with it at all. After all a party you can always celebrate.
Since you say you do not take sides I would suggest to stay out.
You can give a christmas party or (shorter) meeting yourself. Invite and see who will come over. It doesn't matter if it's 1 day earlier or later. It's about the idea and what counts is the attention and relaxing, quality time you can share togehter (with those who like to come over to enjoy instead of fighting). Fact is you can't change anything about the situation, you can only make it worse by refusing to go over, by being angry because they (daughter or son in law or ...) don't do what you advised. But still it won't help you.
So if you plan not to go tell your daughter so you daughter can say how or what to her mother in law. You also say: I am really angry that MY plans.. but this is not about you. If you really mean what you say about your grandchildren let it be. The mess for them is already big enough. Make other plans for you, be creative and invite them later and give a great after party! So they know Santa did find them everywhere no matter what happened or where they are.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
24 Dec 12
My compliment for you! Although you could have keep the gifts and give them to your grandchildren later on. I don't think the exact date will count. What counts is the celebration, the christmas thought, the love, quality time and attention they get from you without all the drama and stress. So skip your plan for some days since Christmas is not everywhere in this world at the same day after all. I wish you and your grandchildren a great christmas together!
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
I met my daughter today and gave her the kids gifts for under the tree. I asked her to tell me when the MIL and FIL are finished visiting either together or separately and that is when I will go to have my Christmas with my grandkids. I don't want to be included in any other the drama and I will not take sides. It was MY plans because I live out of town from these kids and the other divorcing grandparents are here all the time. It was my year to be with these grandkids because I must take turns with each set of grandkids. I was with my other daughters family last year. We alternate holidays.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
24 Dec 12
I really have nothing much to say, i have my life been this broken as a member of a family whose parents separated, but there was no issue where we would spend Christmas or holidays, my dad never cared anyway and never asked to spend time with us. i hope you find time or a way to spend the holidays with your grandkids even if it wasn't the exact date though.
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@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
24 Dec 12
I came from a broken home and the last thing I wanted was for my children to come from a broken home. But alas, that was not their father's idea of home life and he left when they were small and we never saw or heard from him again. Now my daughter will help her husband get through divorce of parents. He's almost thirty though so I don't think he will face all the same issues.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Dec 12
That is a terrible situation! Can you invite them over to your house or are they not local?
Norman Rockwell America was idealism, I think. People still had the same problems, basically, as we do today. I remember the times were simpler and we didn't have these dramas because people were more dignified and didn't air their dirty laundry even to family sometimes. Nowadays, anything goes and nothing is kept back. That means if one person suffers, the whole family and society does. I think if we were a little more reticent about our personal problems we would be better off. If your in-laws had kept their drama to themselves this might not have happened this way--misery loves company and they made sure they had a lot of company. What a shame, particularly because now the grandchildren are drawn into it, too. That's very selfish.
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@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
I have to agree. I wish that people didn't air their dirty laundry so much. I don't want to be involved and don't think I should be, either. I don't think that I will be a part of the celebration this year. I think if I can determine when they plan to be over at my daughters, that I will make alternate plans to be there a different time.
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
22 Dec 12
It's all too crazy for me! I don't blame you at all for trying to stay out of the "drama zone"! I feel for his mother - she must really be hurting to feel hated and/or shunned by her own son. Hopefully they can learn the Christian value called "forgiveness" then they can all love one another again.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
You know after the Thanksgiving fiasco I thought that was all that was needed. I had hoped that all the parties involved coud forgive each other and that by now they would have worked through the issues and moved on. I guess that saying I've heard must be true, "hurting people hurt people".
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
22 Dec 12
sure would be nice if xmas was only full of joy. I know how you feel there. maybe they can all get along at this great time of year. merry xmas to you and yours. See you here soon.
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@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
You know it should be that during this season that there are more random acts of kindness in addition to the regular acts of kindness, but I see each Christmas become more commercialized and less about love, family, and goodness each year. I only wish that we could roll back the time to when Christmas was mostly about families getting together that one time per year and enjoying each other.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
22 Dec 12
Well I suppose we could call Norman Rockwell portrayal somewhat myth, but also somewhat real, as society was much more family oriented and simpler than it is today. Yes, I think we have lost a lot. Of course there was some divorce.. and cheating and whatnot.. and also those who suffered through very bad conditions due to not wanting the 'stigma' of divorce. And there was abusive situations, and all that, but I think on less of it than nowadays. I say this because so many families have either no father or a step father, or step mother, not that there isn't lots and lots of very good step parents, but there are also those who are less than desireable and care not enough for children not their own. I don't mean to make sweeping statements.. I just think many cultures have lost a lot when they have lost their cultural roots, traditions and faith.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
I do so much believe that we as individuals and as a society have lost our roots. I think that divorce is a better option for some of those spouses and kids who are living in abusive relationships. There are good step parents and the wicked step parents. I guess there are several reasons I can think of why the Bible says that G-d hates divorce. He doesn't hate the person, just the act. The act of divorce seems so selfish and so narcissistic. I wish we could live in a world where others value others more than themselves.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
23 Dec 12
The way I see it here, is that your son-in-law has made the decision and it is not your fault, so why not go and spend time with your grandchildren. I don't see how you would be drawn or be deemed taking sides if you devote your attention and conversation around those grandchildren of yours.
Leave the dramas in their theaters while you enjoy your moments at the soda and candy bars outside. You do not need to see the show if you do not feel like it. If you are not convicted enough, then bring the uninvited guest along and bring the grandchildren out for a walk as appetizers.
Being neutral is simply a statement but how you interpret and do things is what matters here. You've already made your stance, I think it is time to let your walk do the talk.
Happy holidays! (Despite the matinee.)
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
25 Dec 12
Merry Christmas.
Sometimes it is moments like these that you need to take the bull by the horns and let your son-in-law what it is like when there are sides that does not side with him. People like him needs understand what it is about being neutral and be forced to a corner which he doesn't like.
Being fair does not mean that you need to be nice and much more when they do not know how to appreciate your pleasantness and niceties. I say get his mother over and let him feel what it feels like to overstep your threshold. I doubt that he'd pull one where he will loose face in front of everybody especially his children.
In life, respect will be given but only when it is earned. What your son-in-law did, doesn't even come close here. Anyway, don't wish for the dreadful when you deserve the best, so have a great holiday.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
24 Dec 12
It is not the first thing that my SIL and I don't agree on and it certainly won't be the last!!! I prefer to not live in judgement of others and I prefer to stay out of their drama when I can. I have decided to have Christmas Eve and Christmas Day with the grandchildren because of the huge storm that is predicted to fall over the entire state. I will not be able to get back to work, nor will I be able to escape the drama. I only hope that the roads are impassable for them and they will be delayed in coming over here and I will head back to work before any drama can take place!
@allknowing (136481)
• India
23 Dec 12
I can imagine how uncomfortable you will feel with the scenario. It is awful to create situations to further a drift and being a part of it is surely not going to help. May be you could refuse the invitation? You could perhaps just visit there and spend time with the grand kids on another day?
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@allknowing (136481)
• India
23 Dec 12
Congrats. I have known people attending parties even if they are not on talking terms.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
I decided to not be a part of the dinner and I sent the gifts ahead with my daughter so that the kids would have their gifts if I could not make it. The plan now is to have the dinner together and have the MIL and FIL to come at separate times so that it may be able to keep the drama to a minimum.
@Pegasus72 (1898)
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30 Jan 13
I am sorry your Christmas plans didn't go as you thought they would, and hope that your family was able to iron something out so everyone had time with each other.
@jamieclavero (187)
• Philippines
23 Dec 12
christmas is about love and giving. im so sad upon knowing this story it is not just a drama for me.it is worst. i hope your son in law will stop taking sides because no matter what happen, he can nver change the fact that he has still a mother.
@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
23 Dec 12
That is so true. I don't think that either party is more at fault than the other. It takes both parties to work hard to make a marriage work. They are also both responsible for the failure.
@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
27 Dec 12
Perhaps you just have to not let it bother you. Not sure who is getting the divorce in your family because I missed reading about the Thanksgiving announcement.
You can't control what grown family members do. But you can control your own feelings and what you can do. Perhaps you can see your set of grandkids on another weekend than over Christmas.
Even if you cautioned your grown children, they can choose for themselves what they want to do. There is no point in getting angry. If you are not that close to those in-laws, then I wouldn't even worry about. Your family is not the only one who has family members going through a divorce.
If you are a Grandmother, then that is where I suggest you focus your love and attention, your Grandkids. But whatever you do, don't say anything to your Grandkids, just love them and be there for them.