High credit standards & credit check rules are getting ridiculous do you agree?
By apples99
@apples99 (6556)
United States
December 23, 2012 8:34pm CST
Sigh! I think it's getting ridiculous now, I mean it's getting to the point that you need good credit to breath
Even if you have stable income a good general history when it comes to paying other bills, if you have 10 or 15 points below a certain score requirement you can be passed over for various things in life even a job
I know some might say well if your credit score is low that means you can't or don't pay your bills that's not always true for some people paying bills isn't about not being able pay it's about which bill is most important to everyday survival
I think these stiff credit ranking law's are unfair & can be too discriminating to people, besides who wins by this credit check rule no one does. some stores & other services turn decent consumers away because a number implies that they can't pay when they can, you could have cash in hand, and still get turned away
Another annoying fact about credit is if the score is low do to an old debt people & business say with a smile well just pay off those debts, and come back later, Really? like it's that easy if I could pay off debts that easily I wouldn't have a low score to begin with, and these so called credit counseling services are scams most of them only want your so called disposable income going into their company and you are still stuck with old debts
Frankly I hope these ridiculous credit rules & standards change someday to fit today's consumer proof of income and employment or willingness to work should count more then anything else. what are your thoughts on credit rules & standards?
5 responses
@TeamCholent (2832)
• United States
24 Dec 12
In economics there is a term called moral hazard. What it is in short is that the lender is faced with some issues when choosing who to lend to. They can lend to A or B. One has good credit and one doesn't. The one with "bad" credit might be the one who will try and pay the loan off the most as the other has "good" credit. A bank doesn't have to lend if it feels the odds are stacked against them for repayment. Its a numbers game not an exact science and you have to factor in the human element.
If you have high credit that doesn't mean you are automatically a great and financially responsible person and vice versa is the same but it is a general guideline to follow. Banks can issue credit cards to those they feel have the best shot at repayments and making them money and not to everyone who asks.
Whether we agree or not you credit score does provide some form of history and insight into what type of a person you are. After the home housing and mortgage stuff up I am happy they starting to cut back shading lending practices and keep the business cleaner.
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
24 Dec 12
Insight sure but it might be past insight meaning the credit scores of ones past does not always reflect correctly on the same persons present ability to pay
Example 5 years ago a person could not pay a bill on time, but now they Can pay it on time. should a person be juged by past credit history? their situation might not be the same as it was 5 years ago maybe the got a better job & have become more mature then they were in the past.
@TeamCholent (2832)
• United States
24 Dec 12
Of course a person should be. Sure people change but history is vital for everything in determining where we came from and where we can head. I agree it sucks etc but you have to understand it form the other side(my spouse works in credit and has written articles for economical and credit related publications). Life might suck in this regard but have no fear every year that goes by the negatives on your score carry less weight.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
24 Dec 12
yes, i know. all you are saying is true, but what about the fact that there are many jobs out there who check credit. it's not just banking jobs anymore. now, that's what i think is ridiculous.
@zoey7879 (3092)
• Quincy, Illinois
25 Dec 12
Agreed. Hospitals... retail chains such as Wal-Mart... A lot of minimum wage jobs do credit checks. I hate it.. had I been handed everything or even been granted a small bit of credit when I was younger.. I might not have ended up in all of the mess that I am in now.
When I was a child... It was common for a utility company to allow customers to pay up to a month late before turning off the service.. Several more months before turning the account over to collections.
Now it seems that the smallest money amounts get turned over to collection agencies almost right away... I worked for a major US collection agency where it was not uncommon to see checks/debits that bounced for less than $5... And I seriously saw one merchant turn a collection of ONE PENNY over to an agency.. add in the return fees.. and yeah... That amount mounts up quick.
I don't believe that credit checks should be allowed for most jobs.. I mean, if I would have been able to find steady work ... even part time.. over the course of the last two years, my credit would be very good.
Can't get a job without good credit.. but you can't build sufficient enough credit without a job... Go figure.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
24 Dec 12
I feel this one too. I had smaller salary years back and i have not missed on any payments on the same loan i was applying for months ago but it got denied this time. It sure was something that kept me wondering but then maybe it is due to the lack of funds as well of the banks to provide more loans to employees. Or maybe they aren't just as interested in giving chances to those who can pay and are employed. Most would rather really just give out their loans to companies as well...
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
24 Dec 12
I know, withdrawing money from the bank WITHOUT trading-in bars of gold-press latinum (or whatever money's base is now): Crazy!
That's because it seems all they have to do to be owed by you nowadays is MAIL YOU something that claims a debt.
I got an email from CreditKarma the other day telling me I had a BAD credit-score because I never paid back my student-loans (for tuition at the private University ... upwards of $30,000)
I shot back a reply informing them that their half-a$#ed research failed to uncover THE FACT that I am waiting on payment of a debt of about 14-BAZILLION DOLLARS ... didn't quite factor that in ...