Education system and it's effect on our society..
By dollar3235
@dollar3235 (2062)
India
December 29, 2012 11:15am CST
Hi Friends,
Last one month has been horrible for countries like USA and India. There was a school shooting incident in USA and then there was a gang rape and horrible torture here in India. Both these evens have questioned our society and the way we are progressing with time. I'm not sure how people in USA are dealing with it but here in India general public is busy in protesting (I'm sure 80% of them don't know why they are protesting and what they want) and they've killed a cop while protesting (though there is a confusion if he died due to some health issues). We are also blaming government and the ruling parties and we want those culprits to be dead.
Things which I've noticed here, there is a lack of understanding here. When someone doesn't understand what s/he is supposed to do, then only things go wrong. Most of the people involved in protest are so called educated people, leaders who are passing shameless comments are also educated but still most of us have belief that even if the girl has died after suffering for more than 10 days, nothing will change in our country because most of us don't realize that the change is required within us and then only it'll be reflected in the society.
So my question here is, why do we study and why do we have a education system in place if we can't decide what is right or wrong?
Is it only for scoring marks, mugging up answers and somehow manage to pass exams and just get a job?
As a parent do you care what moral values your child is gaining while s/he's growing up and have you ever tried to impart some good moral values to the society so that it can be a better place
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4 responses
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
29 Dec 12
I do teach my son, (I mean I do literally teach him in a lesson every week) and we have talked about everything from bullying to what happened in the recent school shooting. I hope and pray what I am teaching him goes not only into his head, but his heart as well.
I am a little concerned about him going to a public school, even though his school is in the country, (the recent school was in a small town) plus a few days later, the high school had a bomb threat. But at this time his dad doesn't want him home schooled, so for now he still goes to a public school.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
30 Dec 12
No I don't mind, I would love to read them, but I had to bookmark the link, I am almost done with my notes for my synopsis and it would be totally awesome if I can get a first draft done by tomorrow and even better, the final done by the day after.. (I hope that is not wishful thinking...)
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
30 Dec 12
It's said, one should not postpone planned things but even I'm very good at it..that's because I'm so lazy..
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
30 Dec 12
Hi carmelanirel,
It's great to know that you care about the moral values and teach your son about right and wrong but most of the people in this society don't understand that and that's why kids grow with wrong mindset and do irresponsible things in society. In India one can not buy a weapon without licence and it's really tough to get a legal weapon. The same kind of rule they should have in US as well, that'll avoid this kind of horrible incidents.
If you don't mind reading Hindu ancient good stories, you can check the link which I've mentioned in my first response.
Thanks for your response!
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@StLouisMetroTutoring (678)
• St. Peters, Missouri
31 Dec 12
In my opinion, part of the problem is we're expecting our schools to do it all. We've grown away from a school that teaches us how to think into a place that shows us how to behave, shows us facts, basically tells us what to do. As a society, we need to take it upon ourselves to teach in the homes as well. I don't mean teach how to add 2 and 2. We need to teach morals. Values. We have gotten to the point where we point fingers at others for not doing it for us.
I know I'm kind of rambling, I guess I really have two related points. A school is not the place where we should be learning to behave. This needs to be taught in the home. When a child enters school, this should already be known. A school should be used to help us learn how to think critically. Not merely to absorb information.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
31 Dec 12
I don't think if I agree with you completely, when a child goes to school, the main purpose is to learn the basics of this world. If there are subjects taught in school which are not relevant for his survival in this world then those subjects should be excluded from the syllabus, a teacher is supposed to teach everything that is required.
At the same time, I'm not saying that the parents should not be taking care of the children, they should also teach them the moral values. If you read the other comments in this discussion, there are mothers who teach these things to their kids. But it doesn't happen in all the countries in this world, parents who are uneducated, they don't take care of their kids and that's why we see violence and criminal activities in society.
Thanks for your response, StLouisMetroTutoring!
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
31 Dec 12
If we say basics, that means, the set of rules that are necessary for a human being to follow in the society.
When you say more educated people in US, if the education system is incorrect then what kind of educated people we'll have in society. I mean, if you are thirsty, a cup of tea will not be something that you'll need, though it's a liquid. Similarly, what kind of knowledge one should necessarily have should be decided carefully.
I feel moral dilemmas are very rare in our society. E.g. what happened in India or US was wrong you can ask anyone on this planet, they'll agree with this but still there are a few human beings who did it. That's lack of education/knowledge.
It's not easy to follow the right path and do everything correctly, after all we are humans, bound to make mistakes but there should be a system to make sure that we don't cross limits.
USA is far more better than other developing countries like India. Here in India society is very tough for women and unfortunately, I don't see any reason why it'll change in near future.
@StLouisMetroTutoring (678)
• St. Peters, Missouri
31 Dec 12
The problem comes in when we begin to define what is required. What is relevant to our survival? What are the basics? Are your basics the same as my basics? Whose morals should we teach? Who are we going to rely on to determine these things?
With the incredible growth of technology, the amount of information has doubled in the last 10 years. So we can't just teach knowledge. We'd never be able to. So what do people do when they come across new information? How do we get new inventions? How do people decide what's right or wrong? Critical thinking. We take what we know, put it together and come up with something new. This is a learned skill. Who is teaching us how to think critically?
It's not becaue parents are uneducated that there is violence in the world. The United States is one of the more educated countries. We don't seem to have a problem giving more than our share of violence. It has nothing to do with education. That's a whole other topic.
Critical thinking is the skill we use when we are faced with moral dilemmas. We can only teach so many possibilities. If this happens, you do this. What happens when we come across a possibility that hasn't been directly taught? If we have critical thinking as a skill, we use what we do know and apply it. We are able to see new possibilities. You'd be amazed at the number of young people that are completely unable to apply what they know to new situations. I believe this sis what sould be taught in schools. Not the knowledge for the sake of knowledge so much as how to think about things. I'm not saying skills and knowledge shouldn't be taught, I'm saying our focus is wrong. The focus shouldn't be on how much knowledge we can attain, it should be on what can we do with the knowledge we have and how can I go about finding out more?
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
29 Dec 12
My first recollection of school was prayer hall where we sat twice in the day and at times some moral story was narrated which quite often I didnt really understand because I was much too young. Then as I grew up, I went to Christian school and here there was a moral science class for half an hour, and a text book as well. Of course, we never had test in moral science. And it always got encroached upon for completing the syllabus. Till finally it disappeared. But by then fundamentals were in place. Now...politicians use the services of people who are bad or whose relatives are bad. Once the services are used, it becomes difficult to be free from such unsocial elements. All politicians are bad. And services may have been used for good or bad, but the protection of the politician is guaranteed. So no amount of protests in India are going to help unless a few of us "educated" folks take things in our hands imprison all politicians and their families and start changing the regulations and laws. Police force has become a puppet in the hands of these politicians. Poor guys, they do get hold of the criminals. But what can they do? The lawyers get those criminals out using sections which they very well could have avoided to keep the criminals off street. But who wants to lose a case, right? And judges are not above the board. One phone call, and the criminal has to be set free. In such a scenario, how can we expect the police force to have any interest in their job? The criminals they nab get released. The chances of their promotion comes down if they do their duty sincerely. lol. As to the west, it is the kind of movies and computer games that have insensitized them to such horrors.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
29 Dec 12
Hi Vandana,
During these holidays I'm spending almost all the time here on myLot and at the same time I'm reading news also. After carefully looking into details of all these events I've realized the very basic things that we are taught is incorrect.
Let's take the religious perspective, I'm guessing that you're a Hindu. I proudly say that I'm a Hindu, I "sometimes" go to temple and I'm do believe in god.
But if I believe in my religion, then that says, I need to look for moksha of my soul and for that I need to free myself from all the worldly things and my karma should be good and I should not do any papam but I know that I don't implement all this in my daily life and that's sufficient for me go to hell.
Now the question is why even after knowing the result I don't implement the right things?
Here comes the education system and the society in picture, in my schooling days, I was rated as one of the bright students, my family, my friends and my schools staff everyone looked at me as a good student. I was told to score more, I did that, I was class topper but I was not expected to practice the basic rules of life, i.e. Speaking truth, not speaking bad words etc.
This world is like objective type question, there could be n number of wrong answers here but there is only one right answer, if my education system does teach me the right path, then what's the point of having such an education system?
I'm so frustrated with this, I feel I can write a book on this topic, yesterday, I read this blog and now I'm wondering what I'm doing in this world. Check this out, I'm sure, even you'll have so many questions after reading this:
http://moralstories.wordpress.com/2006/05/14/great-people-are-always-humble/
There are so many stories which can teach us all those things that the education system could teach us in 12-16 years.
Thanks for your response!
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
29 Dec 12
As you can see, I've hell lot of wrong things within me, how would I judge others, I don't know if I would be able to correct myself. Only god can save me from this messed up society, life and other worldly things..
@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
29 Dec 12
Thanks a ton for sharing this discussion. Well i have always observed that our education system has so many flaws that we often fail to recognize them. While our children are taught from the books then are never made to realize the importance of ethics and culture that they should be learning from the school apart from their parents. There are many parents who fail to imbibe these things in their children and that is the reason why they pin hopes on school and thereby the whole system suffers.
What say?
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
29 Dec 12
We are living a life with wrong priorities, gradually we are forgetting all the main rules of the living and these kind of scenarios are only a few examples of that. All we have to do is to change ourselves and things will be in place automatically, education system is a very few good things and those are also not practically implemented and we can see the result of that.