Divorce bill, next?
By jeanneyvonne
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
Philippines
December 30, 2012 6:52am CST
After the passing of the controversial RH bill, another bill is bound to be controversial as best – the divorce bill.
Personally, I think will be a more heated debate (as if the RH bill wasn’t) since this time, it is marriage that is the issue. The Church assumes that any self-respecting Catholic will shun the RH bill, and will also shun the divorce bill. In our country, annulment is too expensive and other types of separations are just flimsy versions of divorce. The Church is angry enough at the legislators who made the RH bill possible and I’m sure they will be angrier if this bill also passes in a considerable time.
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9 responses
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32695)
• Calgary, Alberta
30 Dec 12
I wont mind divorce, Literally we are the only country left with no divorce. I think divorce should be legalized but with restrictions, We shouldn't have the Las Vegas wedding type of divorce , we should have divorce if one of the couple s already abusive or have commitment issues and if the couple have been separated for a long time as in years.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
I agree, with the exception of the Vatican City which also doesn't count. The Vatican is catholic territory and it abhors divorce by knee jerk reaction. I don't that a conservative country like ours will have a Las Vegas type of weddings nor treatment of marriage. expect conservative congressmen and senators that will air their displeasure at this forthcoming bill.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32695)
• Calgary, Alberta
31 Dec 12
Vatican is a territory of Italy and Italy have divorce. How conservative our country really is? I mean during of the 80's majority of r18 actresses are underage.then we have shows like going bulilit where little girls dressed in scantily clad and that show never got disciplined by mtrcb. I find our government hypocrital sometimes.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
Vatican may be geographically in Italy but it is a sovereign state -meaning it has its own laws and leaders (in this case the pope). People often refer to it as the Papal State and the pope is the head of everything. It's not under the control of the Italian Prime minister. I guess I consider our country conservative due to the lack of change in views and attitudes. We're hardly liberal on issues like gays, gay marriages, divorce and other things. The Catholic Church still plays a good deal in our lives and even itself a moral authority. On your last statement, I whole -heartily agree.
@cobalt20 (1318)
• Philippines
2 Jan 13
Its a no no way for divorce bill because I don't like issues especially showbiz couples doing a divorce. I will do like Philippines without divorce country.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
2 Jan 13
Well, prominent couples in showbiz and politicians get annulled,which is the surest way to end a marriage. But the divorce bill is a little different since it may be cheaper compared to annulment and it might not affect the marriage in terms of the Church. It just ends the civil union (i guess0. I don't know but there might be some middle class couples who might want to avail this is=f their marriage isn't working.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Jan 13
I had no idea what the RH bill was and had to look it up. Now I understand the situation because this is obviously in direct conflict with the Catholic doctrine, as is the concept of divorce.
This type of situation of conflicting attitudes will always exist between governments and religion because they have different objectives to consider. The government has to consider practicality and the effects of circumstances on the economy, financial resources and a myriad of other factors, whereas the Church will always adhere to ideological standards and insist that wrong is wrong whatever the benefits.
I expect that the legislation will be passed, possibly after some amendments, and in time the arguments will subside and it will be left to the individual members of the public to decide which route to follow.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
1 Jan 13
What you described is the ideal situation. however, like in the RH bill, there will be mudslinging in the public arena. Of course, teh rhetoric of the Church will be hardy favorable and will try to exert its supporters agaisnt the issue. The problem here in my country is that the Church still have a waning influence but an influence nonetheless. Educated people can easily refute or at least be able to debate the matter while the Church might rely on the people who cannot have access to information to address and debate the bill.It will be a rough battle once again between government and the church if it becomes the Susie of the day.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
I heard that the legislators are not that keen on this proposed bill as there is only one party list who is endorsing this and many congressmen and senators are not too serious tackling this bill as of yet. I think for the coming months they would be busy campaigning in their own turfs once again.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
Ah, the election time is near and upon us again. Time for promises and compromises. I guess this will on the backburner for a while but ti will be a blast when somebody highlight it in the coming legislative year, assuming that it garners enough support.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
I guess you are right.many people would opt for the end of the marriage if it really not working out and not for the sake of not trying. I mean,I tihnk that a reasonable couple will do everything to save their marriage especially if they have kids. Divorce isn't easy for a family but it might a bitter pill that is necessary than first thought.
@bunnystarr (160)
• Philippines
30 Dec 12
I think I'd prefer the Freedom of Information bill to be passed first. The divorce bill isn't really important right now just yet.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
I agree with you on the FOI. But you need the consent of the powers for it to be considered. it is promised but nit yet delivered. Let see in 2013 if this might be the reverse.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
30 Dec 12
Ah, yeah, now we can expect this to be happening anytime soon.. but this will take more than heated discussions. i think this would truly devastate our church, catholic church and even the christian churches as many still do value family as whole and would not want to be seeing an opportunity for this to be otherwise. The thing is our country is not free from separated parents, the thing is many are separated already, but they are just not filing this separation and so we do not know the true statistics of the number of families that were broken.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
I have to agree.i mane, this is already practiced out of the law and I guess this issue will just legalized everything that is already happening in society. And it could be a solution for some marriages to resolve its difficulties. times have changed and even now, an ideal marriage is something to work for aside from the other realistic difficulties like the economy etc.
@aabuda (1722)
• Philippines
1 Jan 13
I think we have to embrace the coming of years and that we have to accept that we are no longer living in the dark shadows of our forefathers. That some people does not have a healthy marriage and even the Catholic church already advices to their parishioners that if you are no longer happy with your marriage life and that it already causes abnormalities in your life, then, you can leave it. So with it, I think we have to open our minds also that people need it in order to move on.
@iluvusabado (2560)
• Philippines
30 Dec 12
this is something that the church should be wary of next year. hahaha.
actually, i'm favor of divorce. there are people trapped in a marriage and they can't escape because annulment is very expensive and it takes really long time to finish. i think there should just be proper regulations to assure that the rights of both the husband and the wife will be protected.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
31 Dec 12
It's funny when Congressmen gets asked when it comes to this bill that they are going to consult their wives about it. But I think there is some ground in this bill even from the male congressmen. I tihnk that in a male-dominated society just s ours, some males also would like to divorce as much as women want it.