a Cheater cheats family members, making them poor
By mor
@stringer321 (5644)
Kiryat Ata, Israel
January 10, 2013 3:39pm CST
The story is a warning sign to everyone who thinks to give his bank account details to someone else. He may take your checkbook and just spread checks, make you poor with a huge overdraft.
I saw that case in the TV program called "colbotech". The cheater married a woman and want to her brother with an offer to open a company for general works like plumbings, renovations, constructions...The victim went to the bank and opened a company account on his own name, gave the details to the cheater and a checkbook. At the beginning, everything was fine, he got work, got paid and it looked all right.
After some days, he started to get letters from the bank about returning checks and a huge debt to the bank. He asked the cheater what was going on and the cheater told him there was a contractor who failed and worked with him and it will be all right.
The victim didn't know anything and he kept getting a bigger and bigger debt. He had to work a lot and pay it while the cheater and his wife ( the victim's sister) ran away and that's about it.
How can anyone be so naive and fall in that trap ? My father also have been in a trap with a similar cheat. He was a partner in a restaurant with a cheater that just took money from the restaurant account and they were bankrupt. It made a huge family break and the cheater was the son in law of my father's sister. My father didn't speak with his sister for staying with a connection with her daughter ( the cheater's wife) and my father also didn't talk with his niece.
What do you think about that cheating in real life ? I would prefer to just give free money to a family member or work for him and not getting paid for it, instead of getting my money stolen for trusting someone I know.
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12 responses
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
11 Jan 13
Unfortunately there are a lot of people who are that naive, they are mostly good people who do not think that people they trust can do those things to them or anyone else.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
13 Jan 13
your question as you wrote it
How can anyone be so naive and fall in that trap ?
I just answered that.
Unfortunately there will always be cheaters and other criminals it has been like that since time began. The jails are full of them and the rest are prying on innocent people.
to be forewarned is forearmed, so if we are not so naive they have less of a change to cheat us.
@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
Even if everyone was not naive and never falls down with such cheaters, it is bad to have people that want to cheat. You are saying "unfortunately...who are that naive..."
I say "Unfortunately there are greedy people who want to cheat and scam innocent people". Think about it. The problem starts from the cheaters, not the naive people.
It is good to be aware and not naive, it's a shame we can't trust anyone many times.
We need to have the mind of the cheater so we can understand how the cheater may come to us and tell us stories. We must not think about cheating others.
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@Nursefrai06 (2498)
• Penrith, Australia
10 Jan 13
Oh, so that's what happens when other people get a hold of your personal information, that's sad though that you already tried to help them but they abuse you anyways. But things happen an you can't really control the world, nonetheless, in time the people who are involved will get through their situation someway somehow. I strongly believe that at one point in time we will all get what we deserve based on what we did and based on what we are willing to do. Experiences are lifes lessons after all, and because of their experience, I'm staying away from those untrustworthy people. XD
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
The hard thing is to distinguish the untrustworthy people. Plus, if we already have a job and we are able to earn some money every month, we need to think twice before changing that and take a risk.
If a family member wants to make money with our help, he thinks about making money and less about the work and helping the society, that is a selfish way of thinking.
I think the problems start at that point.
@Nursefrai06 (2498)
• Penrith, Australia
12 Jan 13
That's true, that is also the reason why people don't succeed. They don't realize that they have to pour in some effort to sow their rewards. And the only way you can just look forward to rewards is when you are really passionate about what you do, when it's the work itself that is rewarding for you, :)
And it's not fair to rely on others all the time, it's good to eel fulfillment with your own achievements too, life is too short to waste those opportunities for ou to make out of the best that you can. :)
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
12 Jan 13
I am not one that trusts many people because I have been cheated before. Not out of my life's earnings but different occasions where I have trusted and been taken advantage of or stolen from. I think it is easier if it's a stranger because there are no emotional attachments. When it is someone you know and care about, you lose more than just your possessions..you lose part of your heart too.
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@jkct02 (2874)
• Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
13 Jan 13
It is always because we know that someone, and sometimes that someone may even be a relative, that we think we can trust him/her. No one will suspect that a relative or a good friend will ever cheat us. But those things do happen. Being cheated by somebody we know well is unfortunate but I guess it's unavoidable as there will always be someone that we think we can trust. We just have to be careful in any financial dealings with ANYBODY. Whether it is somebody trusted or a total stranger, precaution must always be taken to make sure we won't be cheated.
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
13 Jan 13
The more I hear such stories, I start to doubt the human spirit.
I know I would not want to cheat any family member about anything in my life.
I still wonder what makes people doing such horrible things to their relatives.
Is money so strong on corrupting our mind and soul ? It seems like a curse to me.
Today, many people follow the rules and maybe the ones that don't follow the rules feel they are more powerful, they feel secure like no one would break the law and attack them or cheat them back...
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
10 Jan 13
sounds like my ex sister in law. She did the same thing to people here in mexico. She left, and no one has seen her in like 4-5 months now.
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
What exactly did she do ? Did she ask family members to start a company and start a bank account and let her run the business for them ?
Did she pay with checks and run away ?
Please, tell us, maybe something is a little different in that story and people will fall into the same trap. Please, tell me more.
@mhaiXCs10s (619)
• Philippines
10 Jan 13
We need to be careful always... And we do need not to trust anyone when it comes to money issues. It is so disturbing that someone can cheat the family of their spouses or their relatives. It is so sad that it looks like that when it is all about money, they turned to be like that. But what matter is the thoughts and the lessons we learned in this discussion. Thanks for making a discussion like this. This acts as a warning to everyone...
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
Greed makes people losing their mind.
We need to start encouraging charity and giving. If I can, I will donate money and computers to my city so they can give free internet and computer usage for people in need. I think it will help a lot more than starting a business to make me money.
What can we expect when no one around us does good things like that ? People will tell him he just wastes his money and no one will appreciate him...
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
10 Jan 13
Is it true we do trust family? Or is it more that we find it normal that we can trust family? Since this is a big difference. If you have an objective view on all your family members.. would you make friends with them, tell them all your worries or secrets? I doubt most of us do. It's already proved that we seem to believe will never cheat on us. But it's also proved that most of all family does. Perhaps because we give them more opportunity to do so as a "stranger"? My father always said (translation out of the dutch): with family you should walk not talk/do business. BTW I also have had the experience of an ex cheating on me an leaving me behind with all his (not mine) debts. He run out, the bank did not do anything and I had to pay for years for it.
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
I'm sorry to hear your bad experience, it's a trap we can't see and understand before it happens and it's too late. I personally tend to trust family members because I think they want my favor. Now I understand there are things better be hidden and stay private.
My family always pushed me to learn computers and try to finish 1st degree studies but I couldn't. I lost 6 years for trying and I wish it never happened. Why couldn't they see it was hard and not for me ?
Only time can tell whether people are trustful or not. That's life.
@Belle_of_the_Ball (896)
• Philippines
10 Jan 13
we really need to be extra careful when it comes to money matters.I don't even trust my own brother with anythig that has something to do with money or business knowing how shrewd he is.
@narbahadur (95)
• India
10 Jan 13
This days we all have to be careful about this type of cheater. This cheater can be our friends, neighbor, stranger or even family member. So we have to be careful before giving any type of our personal or secret things. Before trusting any one check him twice. Because now a days no one is for no one. All people are running for Money, Money and Money. They do anything to get Money. Cheaters don't think about what you had done for them, they make you fool. SO beware from this cheaters.
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@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
I consider myself as an intelligent person and if someone tells me some magic story, I will go and check out how it works exactly.
I will tell you now another story I probably forgot to tell at the starter: One person told everyone he was a rich man with many companies around the world, and one of the companies was called "Platforma 770" That name was on the news as a hero : Platforma 770 want's to invest money to save "pri galil" (an Israely factory) from bankrupt, saving many workers from being fired and improve the business.
That Platforma 770 is nothing and just a lie, registered nowhere...an article was somehow written on that Platforma 770 since no one decided to check what was Platforma 770 all about. People are so innocent and only want to have big stories.
@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
What would you do if one family member comes to you and tell you that you can earn a lot of money if you give him some thousands of dollars ? Would you give it a try ?
I would not. I would tell him I can give him some couple of hundred of dollars so he can do whatever he wants, but, please, not to come again and ask me for more.
If he can give me back the money, I will take it. If he won't give me back, I will see he is not a person to trust. Anyway, I won't give big amounts of money.
@PiaAngela (79)
• Philippines
10 Jan 13
Its the trust, esp. if he/she is a family member. But when it comes to money, it is really hard to trust, so never give account information....Better to just give cash and dont let anyone withdraw from your account for you, not good Idea.
Yup the worst feeling is he/she is related to you. To be safe, dont give your full trust when it comes to money. Hard to trust this days.
We always learn from experience. The victim knows that now, maybe too late but he will not let it happen again.
@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Jan 13
That's right. Only time can tell if someone was lying or not.
We need to understand many things before getting into business and if someone gives us an idea, we better investigate what it's all about, how it works, maybe we can try it on our own and show him how it can't be working.
I'm afraid it requires a lot of investigation and learning so, many times, we better stick to what works for us, even if it's hard. We go to work, we are trying in many ways to earn money for what we do and create. I don't believe in magics.
@stringer321 (5644)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
5 Mar 16
Thank you for your comment, this thread is more than 3 years old now but is still relevant. Thank you for reviving the thread.
My father also trusted a person and didn't demand a bank guarantee from him for renting my father's apartment. That person soon stopped paying rent and my father had to deal with him in court, and lost money, he also paid with having stress...
That was not a family member.
When my brother had a baby 18 months ago, I decided to work more and give him the money. We both were lobby officers at a nursing home and he couldn't get to work for a month. I replaced him and I demanded to give him the extra money as a gift and to help him. He took a lot less and insisted it was my money. So, he is an honest man.
Has any family member scammed another family member at your family ?
@DianneN (247186)
• United States
5 Mar 16
@stringer321 You are very welcome. None of our family would do that to each other. However, we were all gullible in trusting friends. That's how we lost so much money in their get rich quick scams. One killed himself in his car in his garage. They other scammed not only us, but his parents and extended family. He is living in Las Vegas.
