reporting violations is not an automatic delete
@Hatley (163773)
Garden Grove, California
January 10, 2013 9:49pm CST
Lately I have seen p eople condemining us mylotters for reporting something as though our report will automatically delete the discussion. Not true folks and this has been said over and over e and still we get scolded for being mean people. The truth is that the admins has the final word always. So the next time you get a discussion deleted do go and read the guidelines and see if you did not break one of the do-nots.Do not just automatically write a discussion cussing out fellow mylotters as very often nobody
reported it but our admins are not stupid.If they spot a rule breaking discussion they will delete it. Lets make this a be
kind to your fellow my lotters and not blame them if y ou do
break a do not, oka y?
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@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
11 Jan 13
dear Hatley,
I don't feel bad if anyone reports my topic for deletion.
I can always message Admin and dispute my claims if ever.
Oh, I am sad my first topic on January 1,2013 was deleted- but it's fine..
Have a great day ma'm



@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi jaiho I do not either as I know I must have broke a r uylde and need to refresh my mind o n the guidelines.They probably got you o
n the milestone rules on New Yearts but you are still okay so that is good.




@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
11 Jan 13
I have had my share od discussions deleted, it's on that line of whether it breaks the rules or not. I just shrug it off and move on, once I see the email of why it was deleted it makes sense then. But some who just join, post all these discussions, then they get deleted. I see some posting say the long time users, are ganging up on them. As I saw practice makes perfect. The admins will look into it and you said make that call.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi ricki yes we can even be mean and report someone but if we are wrong it will not be d eleted. Some people just do not realize the admins are not stupid and often delete where nobody ghad ever reported them at all.

@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Jan 13
Many people will always take a poor view of those who report violations because they compare it to someone reporting a work colleague for being late or a school classmate for reading comics at the back of the classroom.
The important factor that they overlook is that reporting violations does not only help admin to police the site properly, but ultimately protect the site by avoiding it from acquiring a bad reputation on the internet. If violations are simply ignored, even though they may be inadvertent, the result could damage the viability and future of the site.
As you rightly say, reporting a violation does not influence the action taken, it simply speeds up the awareness of admin to the situation.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi Asylum as you say the violaters will think we are mylot police but they the admins do have the final word and thats a safeguard so those who report just to be mean will not see those deleted just because they wanted to be m an. My lot admins has to be a check and will not delete simply on our sayso.Yes if they never deleted the site would soon lose its great reputation.,





@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
12 Jan 13
There have been some times in the past that I've had discussions that I've written that have ultimately been deleted and I've never been that upset about it because we are all only human and we do make mistakes from time to time. Even if I was upset about it, I have to tell you that I wouldn't blame it on other mylotters because I've observed during the time that I've been a member here is that when discussions are deleted, they are deleted for a reason as opposed to being deleted for no reason at all.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jan 13
hi dorannwin I think the poll type discussions are the ones most all of us at one time or another get inspired and forget we are actually polling an audience with our titles. I have got around that by making the thing more personal then asking others take on my idea
but I had four deleted over the years mostly for losing my temper when someone really goaded. It did not help that her insult got deleted as my whole discussion was deleted to stop a flaming war. i learned its best just to report one who has really made a vicious
response. I used to feel bad to report someone bu t no more.





@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi namiya Yes what I call sour grapes as they do n ot want to admit they broke a do not rule in the guidelines. Now if they had even re add the guidelines they might have saved their discussions
from being deleted. fore armed is for warned. If I goof up
I take full blame as it is m y fault nobody elses.
@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi namiya yes thats the really sad part is all my friends who responded all lost money on those.what was really sort of funny
was one user who got me mixed up with someone else and sent me a private message telling me I was an old so and so for causing her to lose money on my lame excuse for a discussion as I got it deleted., but I checked and none of my discussions then had been deleted. so she had me mixed up with someone else
else.
later I noticed she was back on my friends list so she must have realized that I had not been the one after all.
@namiya (1718)
• Philippines
12 Jan 13
Accepting one's slip won't downgrade one's personality as long as you did it without malicious intention. As an immediate reaction, I opened a discussion out of a posting problem I've encountered here in mylot just recently without checking and it turned out that there were already a couple mylotters who posted similar topics. As expected it was deleted and I am sorry that it also affected those who responded
.

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@inopiratum_a_medio12 (877)
•
11 Jan 13
i agree, and be responsible enough to respond and start a new discussion, but there are some lotters also who reports a false violations just because they don't like the discussion for themselves and that's very nasty posting such as "This post contains content of a mature nature. You have selected to not view content of a mature nature. If you would like to view this post, you must first change your preferences to allow mature mature content". If they were not pleased
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi inopiratum a medio but the thing is they can report false violations til the cows c ome home and the my lot admins will not delete those that a r e false.Give t he admins some credit. Also we can report and be mean and it will not get us anywhere as my lot has the final sayso.So again why rag on mylotters when most of the time it was not even reported but the admins caught it. read in the guidelines where we a re asked to help if we see a violation and I swear I n ever report anything that is not a blatant violation as I am not mean at all.As for what you wrote above that was not done b y any nmylotter b ut by admins.
@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
thanks Lambie almost wrote wolfie what the heck was I thinkingl. lol
@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi AmbiePam thats a good question for sure. How do they know it
was reported as our reports are made anonymously? So why
blame anyone and if it is deleted its still my lot admins who does the deleting not us.We can report but if we report wrong the discussion will not
be deleted at all.





@Blondie2222 (28611)
• United States
12 Jan 13
I agree with you, I see this quite often where people are posting discussions saying bad things about are mylotters. We are just here having fun like they are and us that have been here for a long time no the rules and know not to go against them. Some people take offense when others do this and your right it is the administrators that have the final take on this because their the ones that read each post that is made daily and decide what are good and what's bad. I always see some post that have been deleted that I responded too but I don't get mad over it I just go on to the next ones. I never obide over the rules I always follow them.
@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jan 13
ho blondie I often reread as there is a lot to comprehend and try to
avoid discussions I feel have broken a rule. Often I c an tell as nobody is posting to it or someone had left a tag guideline violation, I do read the discussion though as often times people do mistake a violation where there is none.I don't think people do this do be mean but they honestly thought it had broken a rule
.




@celticeagle (172502)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Jan 13
ANd it is all so basic. If only they would read the FAQ and Do Nots. It all makes perfect sense and why be on here if it doesn't. I wish we had half as many members on here and they weren't a majority of young sillies. Just my opinion.
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@celticeagle (172502)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Jan 13
Yes, the FAQ's are there for a reason and for the most part they are pretty basic.
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13

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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi Celtic and echo yes both the guidelines and the FAQ;s are there for good reason. Some have told me they play favorites wioth me and that is just not true. I goofed and my discussion s got deleted just like anyone else who broke a rulde. I flamed the insulter which just got my discussion deleted for a flaming war.I think the FAQ's are r eakkyt poretty basic too.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi bunnybopn I remember that and I think that person you should have reported for sure.There are several here that used to do that to me but I started reporting their insults and the admins must have agreed as those responses were deleted. but I have reported others that did not get deleted and I was glad it was the admins final say so. Alex once told me that some poll typed they let stand as they were overwhelmingly responded to.I just dislike people pointing fingers at mylotters hen its admins who does the final
judging. I am human and I do not want to have others think I am a mylot police but on the other hand the admins in the guidelines asks us to help so its sort of be damned if you do and be d amned if you do not. 



@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
11 Jan 13
You are one of those people who never gives up trying to help people on Mylot. I still feel it is a hopeless. People don't want to get it! They want to blame other people for what they did wrong here! It like th saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink". I don't need to say more.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi echo yes they feel they gave us the information and so we must read it, learn from it and thus make valid discussions. I had a lot OF responses but knew they still would delete it. oddly the lady admins who deleted it told me she had a hard time not deleting it buT she felt that even with all my responses my discussion would just keep the flaming war going. the person who made me that angry that I lost my cool had devoted a whole discussion making fun of me as an older person and telling everyone I hated newcomers.So he got his discussion deleted the same day as she said he started the flaming war.I still do not know why I did not just report his insults and not flame back at him.But I did not blame the admins for what was really my own fau
lt.


@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13
I do see many that are blaming others for their deletions and it seems silly to me in the first place. I would feel bad if something is deleted, of mine, but i know it was MY writing.
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13
Even a discussion with that many responders if it breaks a rule will be deleted! that's why we need to be careful what we comment ON as well as write ourselves.
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@allknowing (142764)
• India
11 Jan 13
When a discussion is reported as a guidelines violation and it stays put users who do it with all sincerity and know the rules inside out start to wonder

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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13
There wasn't enough reason to delete it, that's the reason.
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13
Well there must be a reason it wasn't deleted then?
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
11 Jan 13
No, you're right.
No where does it say its an automatic deletion just because someone reports. The admins will decide what is a violation or not. Which discussions are deleted are fully up to them, not just because we report what we think is a violation.
Those who take this personal...
I don't get that. Obviously they're not understanding the situation fully. They're taking it as a deletion but it is not just our report that does it.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
I got the notifvier too and was angered but Alex is always fair
and I a m glad you got it back as it was fun to respond to. lol
I had one returned to as though it was juse edging poll type A lex said it had so many resoinses he felt it should not have been deleted so he r estored it.
[em]happy[/em


@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi my lotters well in five years I have had fou r deleted and three of them were flaming back at two people who were really really vicious in their insults at me. One of them I know Lambie knows too and dislikes her too.But I only blamed myself as I should have reported those t wol for their insults and just moved on.
@echoforever (5180)
• United States
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@Mavic123456 (21891)
• Thailand
11 Jan 13
Yes, aunt hatley, i will never ever report any mylotters if I break the rules. I will read the FAQ before posting the discussion and never ever say something rude to anyone. I promise.





@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi Mavic oh the person did not repoort anyone just claimed a bunch of us were always reporting his discussions and getting them deleted . I told him that a bunch of reports does not cause a deletion unless the admins thinks it is breaking a rule or two perhaps. they read our re ports then do their own checking and make up their own minds.So
if we are wrong they do not delete anything.




@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi mavic I think that since the admins are humand jus tliuke we are they cabn anbd do make errors b ut if you feel an error was made in deleting a discussion of yours all you have to do is private message GoAskAlice and Alex will check and if it did not break
a rule it will get reinstated too.




@Mavic123456 (21891)
• Thailand
12 Jan 13
oh... well yes aunt hatley, maybe they over looked at it. what do you think?
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
11 Jan 13
I really don't even bother with those that are blatantly ignoring the rules anymore. I notice some will tell them what they are doing wrong. If it is spam or plagerizing, or repeat offenses after someone else has told them, I just go and report. If someone does a minor infraction because they've overlooked something and it seems like they really do want to do well here, I tell them or overlook it. There are a lot of guidelines and it takes a bit to get used to how things work here. A person that really cares about being here would take a discussion getting deleted and look into why it happened and just try not to let it happen again. It happens to everyone and even those of us who've been here a bit.
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
12 Jan 13
Ive had a couple of them removed too over the years. I don't even remember what they were but something that I should of known better on, Im sure. The thing is, one of the first things I did upon joining is read the guidelines. I had no idea how this place worked and so what better place to look than in the guidelines and faqs. Another thing that helped was reading and responding to a lot of discussions from people who had been here a while so I could get to know people and get comfortable. It was my experience that the ones who had been here longer were very helpful to me.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi sid I was helped by a lot of older ones too when I first came
here. Then one of them really turned on me and insulted me up
a storm; then I blew my top; and flamed back so I do remember getting that discussion deleted.I should have just reported the insults instead. Over five years I have only had four deleted.one for being a duplicate which later got reinstated as the other person had actually posted theirs after I had. the other three I am ashamed to say I lost my temper at two people who insulted me. One was the former friend, tho other a person who took up a whole
discussion to point me out and say I hated newbies blah blah blah,. I took a discussion to respond and flame back instead of just reporting his abuse. He had his discussion deleted at the same time as mine.So over all I have done pretty goos.





@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jan 13
hi sid. I let some go and some I have reported bu t I do not do a lot of reporting and never with malice as someone here claims a bunch of us are like mylot police. I tried to reason with him that we can report a zillion times but if we are wrong my lot admins has the final word and will not delete something based just on our reports.I have had four deleted over five years and I broke the duplicate rule and the flaming rule because I insulted back at an insulter instead of just reporting the person. I take full blame as it was
o
nly my own fault.





@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 13
hi elitess and too over fivce or six years some rules w ere
aadded and some deleted so the old discussion might have passed then bu
t now it has broke one or more rules.


@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Jan 13
hi mandalee but the admins asked us to report discussions that break the rules but we do not ever delete them as the admins has the last word always, I have never reported anyone unless the discussin really broke several rules.We are still treating everyone with respect as reporting is done anonymously.
@rosekiss (30413)
• Eugene, Oregon
13 Jan 13
you are right as the admin has the final say as to whether the discussion is a violation or not. i have responded to discussions that I knew were a violation, but I responded anyway, becasue I wanted to he help the discussion starter, and let them know it will be deleted and why it will be deleted. I responded to one the other day, that will definitely be deleted, becasue the discussion starter had posted links from other sites, and not just one link, lots of them. We know those kind are a direct violation of the guidelines. I too, have seen it where people will tag a discussion as a guideline violation, and I would look at it, and try to figure out what the violation was. I do think, that some just love to use that tag for discussion, maybe just because they didn't like it. that isn't right, as others would p[robably like it and not tag it that way. Most of the time, it is hard to tell if a discussion is a direct violation or not. Take care, hatley, and have a very good day. 

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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jan 13
hi rosekiss the only way to really tell mos tall the time is to stydy the do nots a lot as theres quite a bit to learn there. I do reread
it at time just to be sure before every reporting anything
. I do not ever post a tag as a guideline violation unless it really
is very obvious .otherwise that is just pure meanness.




@inertia4 (27979)
• United States
22 Jan 13
I agree with you. More people should read and re-read the guidelines. We can basically write about anything we want to as long as it fits into the guidelines. I see no problem with it. I love MyLot and come here everyday. But you have to give a little leeway to the newbies though.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jan 13
hyes inertia wee really do as theresx a lot to try to absorb to start with. I do try to help when I can but sometimes i seem'to touch off someones temper and they think I am scolding them which
I am not at all. Somehow some people feel its just plain rude to tell them to read the guidelines but really that's where the iinfo
for making good discussions is located.


@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
15 Jan 13
Yes that happens. It especially happens when we tell someone of their violation and then when it is deleted they blame you. It's happened to me before.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jan 13
hi pq I had one person write me a really nasty private message telling me that my dumb stupid discussion had been deleted and so she lost a lot of money. to begin with it was not my discussion that got deleted it was someone elses and I had commented on a response that that response was not helping the discussion and it was her response to someone elses discussion and her response and my comment n it got deleted. I was going to p message her back and remind her it was not my discussion but she had unfriended me. Yet lately she sometime got back on my friends list. after that really mean p message to me I was temp
ed to delete her bu t she had delted herself but how she got back on my list I do not know.


