Piddling laws - India versus the rest of the world..
By vanny
@vandana7 (100249)
India
January 11, 2013 10:42pm CST
Ok..we have laws...
There is nobody to follow them. We have public toilets that some agency tries to keep clean and collects charges for keeping them clean. But the truck drivers, and homeless on the street are not going to use that. They prefer the trick that the dogs and cats have taught them.
I was watching a tourist describe Indian Railways...and to tell you the truth, I felt ashamed when he described the railway station as some place that smells of raw faeces. I cant feel offended about that..because that is true. It is not as if people dont know how to use such facilities. They know. But they are ok with not following the laws as there is no way laws can be enforced correctly in this vast population. The government cannot afford to have as many police officers, or weapons. They know it..
Coming to the western nations, I watched Sandra Bullock and Hugh Grant in Two Weeks Notice, and I thought, can somebody do that? lol
One of my friends said..we do have problems out here...I mean, we have traffic jams, and long queues of vehicles, and if it is cold, really cold, and foggy, you do feel like ..you know...but its very expensive way of fertilizing the farms around, because the one who supplies the fertilizer can get caught between the teeth of some ferocious dogs, if not by law enforcing officers, who can charge as high as $500. So I asked, what if the person has diabetes? My friend didnt have much information to add to that.
So yesterday it was cold out there...and cricketers were playing a match in cold. I had the same doubt.
Just some morbid thoughts...today I am sick...cold, sneezing, and headache...and something to keep my mind away from the near war situation on Indo Pak border.
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5 responses
@SViswan (12051)
• India
12 Jan 13
So, what's your doubt? How the cricketers can play in the cold without a toilet break?
Though I love my country, what you said is so true and I have to admit that I am guilty sometimes, when I let the little son pee when he needs to go. I'd rather he did it out in the open rather than the 'clean' toilets that are 'maintained' by people who charge for the service. Don't get me wrong...I don't mind paying but it's the stink and the cleanliness (or the lack of it) that puts me off. I would never let them do it outside if I could find a clean enough toilet.
Though I love my country, what you said is so true and I have to admit that I am guilty sometimes, when I let the little son pee when he needs to go. I'd rather he did it out in the open rather than the 'clean' toilets that are 'maintained' by people who charge for the service. Don't get me wrong...I don't mind paying but it's the stink and the cleanliness (or the lack of it) that puts me off. I would never let them do it outside if I could find a clean enough toilet.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
20 Jan 13
I think children should be taught that in primary schools. :(
I remember I used to be in a hostel in Pilani. There, every morning I used to dread entering the toilets, simply because they used to be so dirty EVERYWHERE..in the Indian commode and outside...I used to get nightmares about dirty toilets..lol
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
13 Jan 13
It is the low sum that they collect, it is not possible to buy enough of the hygienic stuff out there...while I am scared of E.Coli myself..I do feel there has to be something that needs to be done about it...as of yesterday. It is not right to shout on rooftops that we are a poor nation, we are a poor nation, we are a poor nation...especially if we are bringing in Formula one racing track to our country. We need better toilets and toilet habits before we invite the foreigners as tourists, whether in Asiads, or for any cultural events.
@nitinnair89 (2900)
• India
13 Jan 13
Rightly said mate.
I personally feel India is poor with regards to hygiene. I hope it will change soon..we can dream though..lol..
And i think there will be a war between India & Pakistan..
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
12 Jan 13
What kind of weapon does the government need? 
Take rest and don't watch tv.. do you like to watch cricket? I only sat there for last few balls.
Regarding your main discussion, I am just so full of thoughts about your other discussions I may mix them all up! So will comment later on that...
Take rest and don't watch tv.. do you like to watch cricket? I only sat there for last few balls.
Regarding your main discussion, I am just so full of thoughts about your other discussions I may mix them all up! So will comment later on that...
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
12 Jan 13
Sure.
You think and then put all that here so you are dangerous. Actually going by interest you have been posting in lately, you think a lot!
I too am a thinker but I just get lost in them... not dangerous at all, huh? You won't find thinker in my interests even. Painstakingly rejecting that all the times. 
You think and then put all that here so you are dangerous. Actually going by interest you have been posting in lately, you think a lot!
I too am a thinker but I just get lost in them... not dangerous at all, huh? You won't find thinker in my interests even. Painstakingly rejecting that all the times. @hora_fugit (5862)
• India
12 Jan 13
I was wondering why people in foreign countries behave themselves : because they love a clean surrounding or due to fear of law? Guess the latter one is correct! In that case, you must have noticed those keep your city clean signs, they should add an or else... after that. People will surely notice!
@sanjay91422 (2725)
• India
12 Jan 13
What is Sandra bullocks?
I also hate when I have to pay there for peeing in the public bathroom. It makes me feel bad because instead of relaxing a bit, I have worry if there is a free change of 2 rupee coin in my pocket or not.
I see that some people go without paying and some pays there. It do not look a good practice. I don't get the dog part.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
12 Jan 13
Sandra Bullocks is an actress. You might want to check on that movie...two weeks notice ...she gets into an RV for relieving herself.
Why hate sanjay ji...who will clean it up otherwise? Westerners pay, so we too pay. In fact, I was told in some of the colder countries, we might incur as much as 30 to 50 dollars for that...comparatively, two rupees is negligible. Cant we do that much for our country and our neighborboods?
I know some people dont pay...they intimidate the person who collects the monies. That is wrong...
Dogs tend to relieve themselves on the trees or walls.
@vandana7 (100249)
• India
12 Jan 13
If tax monies were enough then other countries too would not fix 3 dollars per visit, would they? :)
Agreed the quality of cleaning and facilities are superior. But if we are good with paying our facilities will improve as well.
Making them permanent employees would make them lazy I think. As long as they are temporarily employed, they are constantly afraid of losing their jobs. Once they are made permanent, they will be covered under Union laws, and demands, and they wont work like the rest of government employees, and ask for bribes and we will be paying taxes, but getting nothing for it. So I am fine with hire and fire system....EVERYWHERE.
@sanjay91422 (2725)
• India
12 Jan 13
Well that is a good point, but you know that there are sweepers for every public buildings, who keep them clean everyday. Take the example of the bus stand, or any other office. There are sweepers too and there is always the facility of the sweepers. I think ministry Govt. is able to pay them with the tax which we pay in terms of the bus fair, or other taxes.
Why don't govt. appoint these people as govt. employee and pay them regularly. I think in this case they will take care of the toilets in more good way. Why the public is to be disturbed when they have to do the most relaxing activity. They have to if they have single coin or not, and if not, then sharing the notes at that place seems a little non-hygienic (Look at it in practical way).
That is why I hate it. Thanks for the inquiry.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
13 Jan 13
To be honest I don't hear much difference with other countries where I have been. Although there are countries where the public toilest are very clean, although not everywhere. There are also countries (esp. their big cities) where the sqaures etc are very clean (people are cleaning up whole day). There are plenty of countries/big cities where traffic jams are and long queues of vehicles (it's in my country day after day after day). In most countries there is not enough police and in very less countries the police will wear weapons around. Besides of the police there are also other people who can "quard" the safety of shops, or the malls or give bills if you park your car where it shouldn't be parked (like they do in my country). All over the world there are people who have cold and humid weather or live in these circumstances day and night, summer and winter. But what does make you different is the way you treat women. The way people behave if it comes to that and the many rapes there are daily. Rapes the people seem to find normal. And it will stay normal for a long time as long as everybody keeps talking about "cast differences" and is not willing to stand up (leave) their family. India can't have both. Not using the luxury, internet, all inventions, cell phones etc to be hot, populair, wanted, seen, modern, but on the other hand living long before the middle ages. If your country does has laws they should practising and controlling them as well. Otherwise it's useless to have laws at all.
