Where's the Outrage Liberals?

Oh grand pubah, so glad you corrected me about MY beliefs.

"Lord and savior" are relative terms. That those words put together to a Christian mean one specific deity is not the fault of anyone else who finds another object to be their lord and savior. Or messiah. Or redeemer. Or anointed (ironically, a lot of folks love this term for a slam against Obama). Or any of the other hundreds of monikers or aphorisms Christians have chosen to put to Jesus over the years. That Christians coin terms doesn't give them license over meaning. Lord and savior are words which still mean lord and savior. If you want them to only mean Jesus and then take offense to everyone who claims that their lord and savior isn't Jesus, that's certainly your right. But language isn't owned.

I hadn't thought of that, in effect, he was saying Pres. Obama was his lord and savior, wasn't he? According to the scriptures I read daily, the title Lord and Savior belong to Jesus Christ. What other religions HAVE a lord and savior? I'll have to go look it up. I know Hindus call Krishna lord....but not sure about savior. It would be interesting to know if any other religions who may use those terms for their prophets or gods are offended as well by Obama being called lord and savior.

Stopped? That would imply he once was....

Yeah, I explained up above that I posted this in a hurry when I was tired. It was Jamie Fox. What if he'd of made the same sort of mistake and said something insulting to Muslims? Or would he be more careful to not offend them? Mind you, I feel more sorry for him than I am offended by him or Newsweek. I just don't care for the hypocrisy. The left is ever so careful not to offend unless it comes to Christians or conservatives and especially if the conservative Christian happens to be black, then the gloves are off and anything goes.

What about ME calling HIM a racist name here? Would YOU be offended at that? OR what if I said ALL muslims were terrorists, or the Prophet Mohammed was a paedophile or another insulting name? I can almost bet you'd call me a racist/intolerant if I did any of that. Fact is, BILLIONS of the world's citizens believe in Jesus Christ. Fact is, we are told not to insult blacks and Muslims and if someone does anyway, they are condemned as an intolerant racist for the most part. Fact is, Christian's beliefs should be respected same as Muslims. But they're not. I respect a person who is honest. I find it hypocritical to insist that society expects tolerance from ME, yet find it acceptable to disrespect me (for my color or beliefs).

OK, I guess I did not make myself clearly understood. Can you take a look at my response to Aida above for clarification? thanks

I agree, and believe me...I catch a lot of flak for speaking my mind and expressing my beliefs. I've thought a lot lately about the attitude of some of the progressive left; that they are assuming everyone should accept their worldview. And they can be oh so tolerant of some, but not of the conservative Christian worldview. Like I said up above, I almost feel sorry for them, not only can they be very closed minded, they miss so much by refusing to look at other views.

I understood, you didn`t got offended but you wanted to ask where are those who get offended by christians, i wanted to tell that to Aida too a little earlier.Still here is the problem with the christians in the US ( and probably one day all over the world ). Don`t bring examples where other people are saying something against christian beliefs, fight for your right to speak free instead. And if someone tells you that you are bigot or racist or intolerant then to hell with them. Why do you care if a fool thinks you are that way ? Tolerance itself is a very bad idea someone is promoting, it means we have the power but we tolerate the others. Btw i`ve seen Obama saying today "so help me God". Which means he is a christian according with what some people are keep saying ( that whenever God is mentioned, that is the christian God ). Aren`t people "offended " already because he said that ? I mean where is the "separation between church and state " ?

I think the most concerning, outrageous aspect of these comments are the hero-worship for a president, to the point that journalists like Evan Thomas are declaring this president to be "sort of God" and equal with a religious experience. That is not how we should view politicians of any color or in any position. We the people should view them as humans, who must be held accountable to the people. You can't hold a prophet or a messiah accountable and that's dangerous. Yes it is outrageous, because these people worshiping the man are violating the basic premise behind our political system.

Which is even more hypocritical of the progressive left, who for the most part cannot abide mixing religion and politics. I thought of this when posting, thanks for bringing it up.

Aida, what my point was, if I were to post a discussion on something that was deamed insulting to the prophet Mohammed, (which I have) I'd be called intolerant, perhaps racist too. (I've had that experience) I didn't mention it in the OP, but a poorly made 14 minute video on youtube was the reason given by the White House for the attack on Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya. I'm sure you remember that, right? The president's remarks posted in my discussion were in response to that video. (we now know it wasn't the cause of the murders, but oh well) The world was in an uproar for a week or so due to that 'insult' to Muslims. The Muslim Brotherhood demanded we arrest and the maker of that video and turn him over to them for punishment. (they kill those who insult Mohammed btw) My point was poorly made I admit, but what I was attempting to point out is that Christians and their beliefs are made fun of, denegrated, and used flipantly by a large portion of Americans. IF TOLERANCE and respect are demanded for Muslims and their beliefs...by OUR PRESIDENT and the left, why is it that they do not speak as firmly about respecting ALL beliefs and against ALL intolerance. Muslims (and Obama speaking on their behalf) expect and demand respect for their prophet, going so far as to behead and stone and crucify those who do not give it. WHAT do Christians, Hindus and pagans for that matter do against those who insult their beliefs? NOTHING. What does that tell you about Muslims? Personally, the offense to me is minor. I feel sorry for those responsible actually.

hhhmmm.... You may be on to something there.

YOU got my meaning. Hurray!! btw, in case you missed it, I made a mistake, it was Jamie Foxx who called him lord and savior. BUT, Chris Rock is a bigot in the worst sort of way as well. He uses his money, his fame and his blackness to ridicule those whom he doesn't agree with and gets away with being a bigot cause he's liberal and rich. Same with Jamie Foxx and other race baiters. IMHO, Martin Luther King Jr. the greatest man of the 20th century sacrificed much so that they both could have what they have, fame, money, acceptance, power. And they disrespect his words everytime they open their mouths.

Kent Hovind has been debunked more than the JFK conspiracy. He's a nice guy, I'm sure, with a lot of faith. But "his" teachings are just his father's, which are thoroughly debunked.

CODY, good to see you! I left the evolution argument alone. I guess you said it all, and I agree!

http://youtu.be/Z3UL5YEgTGg He is a great science teacher.