I've Conceded Defeat - No Choice

@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
January 21, 2013 9:09am CST
Earlier I rang St Paul's Medical Centre and asked why I had not heard from them since I submitted a registration form to them a week ago, only to receive a letter from the doctor I've a dispute with..to which the receptionist replied, 'We don't take new registrations.' Funny how it said they did on the NHS Choices website but I've mentioned this in a review, so, hopefully, that will be amended shortly. So, I had to 'concede defeat' and decided to ring the Practice Manager up of the Surgery I was thinking of leaving. She was very nice, actually. She seemed more 'savvy' than the doctors even though she has no medical experience and told me that my doctor had indeed been to see her after our consultation and he was going to mention my thyroid but got a bit sidetracked. I then said, 'If it was so urgent why didn't he say something at the start?' 'Well, I wasn't in the room so I cannot answer that,' she replied. Anyway, after a long (quite constructive) chat she has made an appointment for me to see the same doctor again on Wednesday. She said that the Pelvic Ultrasound Scan should be discussed with him and the fact the Mirena Coil may be out of position, something (she knows) would have to be dealt with under anaesthetic, in my case. I told her that it must be frustrating for 'medics' not to be able to examine me properly as most women will just have the Mirena Coil taken out there and then, problem solved. But, with me, I would have to be 'put under' as I put it. She said that it's a GOOD thing that I am able to recognise that I have a problem in this area as 'not every woman does and they force themselves into a situation they are not comfortable with.' I was quite impressed by this statement as she is RIGHT! I have lost count of the women who have told me in the past that (for example) an 'internal' was 'horrendous' but they just accepted it and went back for another one 6 months later. I'm not saying what I am doing is right, not by a long way, as all these 'obstacles' don't help me, ultimately, but at least I know what my limitations are. I will say to the doctor though that I was most upset when he said the words, 'All they want you to do is relax.' I've had a lifetime of people saying this to me, both medics and otherwise and it actually makes me WORSE. This is something many people cannot get to grips with. We shall discuss at length treatments for my thyroid as I do know this is free, even if it's for 'a couple of months' and it will be monitored. So, if I accept the drug I will be on it for only a short time, then go back for another blood test, I would think. Obviously, this is unconnected to my bleeding problem but if this treatment helps me in other ways, I am willing to try it. However, I have no control over the gynaecological department and what they make of my Mirena Coil moving out of position. It will be interesting to see though as, like I said, no-one can just whip the thing out there and then.
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@francesca5 (1344)
21 Jan 13
I don't think that's conceding defeat, as it seems like you are going to get what you want, and the doctor had to admit that he had done something wrong, which, when it comes to doctors, is a major victory. I'd call it a draw. though in the end you both win, as the doctor now understands what you want, and you have a better understanding of the doctor's failings too. so it might have been a bet messy getting there, but the outcome is likely to be more positive now.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
It's all coming from the Manager though, not the doctor himself. I shall go in on Wednesday with a positive attitude and - hopefully - the doctor will do the same. I did say to the Manager that the doctor was 'totally different to the previous time I saw him' and I was wondering if a previous patient had upset him in any way? She didn't know but she did say that they've been under a lot of pressure since Christmas but she concedes that he shouldn't have taken it out on me if that were the case with him. Anyway, 'Onwards and Upwards' as they say!
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@lacieice (2060)
• United States
21 Jan 13
I simply don't understand your doctor. It could all be solved with a simple historectomy. I had one many years ago because I had fibroid tumors. You're problem is such that it should be obvious what needs to be done. You have no plans to have children, so I don't see what the hold-up is.
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@GardenGerty (161319)
• United States
22 Jan 13
It is more expensive if you keep having to have other things done.That needs to be considered. If you have a complete hysterctomy, including ovaries, you might need to take estrogen replacement therapies for a while. I did and then quit after a year or two, so that may be one reason to delay on you.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
There is one reason and one reason only (and no-one will admit it) and that's cost (to the NHS, not to me). They bang on about the fact that the operation itself is risky..but so is crossing the road. The risks don't outweigh the benefits. I also agree that the children thing is not an issue. I have never been pregnant, never wanted children so why the medics think I want to hang on to my womb at all costs is baffling to me.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jan 13
The problem with telling you to relax, is that it comes across as dismissing your concerns, and making it sound like you are overreacting. What would actually get you to relax would be if they were treating you with respect and taking your concerns seriously.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
I couldn't agree more. It's not just men that say this to me, it's women as well. They can't deal with someone who is sensitive and has 'issues.' I can well understand why some rape victims never come forward as they're treated poorly from the start.
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@MandaLee (3764)
• United States
21 Jan 13
Hi Janey, This is a really frustrating situation. Keep trying. Hang in there. I hope you will get treatment soon and that the problem will be resolved. I will keep you in my prayers. Please keep us posted on your condition.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
Hi Manalee It is frustrating, I agree. However, I am hopeful that my appointment with my doctor will be miles better than the previous one. Purely because it HAS to be as I've involved the Manager now. She will keep the doctors in line to make sure people like me get the best care and I'm soo glad I spoke to her as opposed to the doctor himself earlier today. She actually listened to what I had to say! I shall keep you posted on developments.
• United States
21 Jan 13
I'm not familiar with the Mirena Coil, but I remember you having bleeding issues for as long as I've known you. I had an IUD in the late 1970s. I know that my periods were very painful and I would miss work with such pain. I finally had it removed. I didn't bleed for long periods of time like you did. I just got horrendous pain. I hope you get your thyroid and this other issue sorted out.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
Thank you. Yes, I've had a bit of an ongoing spat with the medical profession for quite some time now as I can't have internal examinations, for one thing. It makes life difficult both for them and for me. Anyway, I shall see what transpires on Wednesday. It will be interesting to see my doctor's reaction when I tell him that the Pelvic Scan showed the coil has moved. This may (or may not) explain the bleeding. However, I do not bleed all the time but whenever I do it can drag on for 3-4 weeks. It is lighter than before I had the coil fitted but - as the doctor himself conceded - it hasn't worked as well as it should...and it's now in the 3rd year of 5 of its lifespan. At least I'm not in pain, which is the 'silver lining' in all this.
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@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
21 Jan 13
Well, I do hope you get the proper treatment. At least you are speaking up for yourself. I do hope the treatment does help you. Wishing you a speedy recovery and health.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
I think the Manager admires me for that, actually as you get many patients just accepting what they're told, whether it's wrong or right.
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@GardenGerty (161319)
• United States
21 Jan 13
You know, Janey, if the coil is out of place they should not want to risk just yanking it out anyway. What if it is the cause of the bleeding? What if it damages something or perforates your uterus? They should be cautious as it is getting quite a bad reputation here in the US.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
I had not thought of that. Over here it tends to be the hospitals themselves that get caught up in compensation claims, not the manufacturers of the product, from what I can gather. Anyway, I shall discuss my Scan with the doc on Wednesday and he may be able to speed up a referral. He does know, however, that having it 'yanked out' isn't an option so my 'condition' actually works in my favour, if you get my drift.
@BarBaraPrz (47892)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
21 Jan 13
Now, if only you could have a long and constructive chat with the doctor. I hope everything works out for you, I really do.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
Thanks. I reckon he must've been mortified when I stormed out like that. He wasn't expecting it but I couldn't think what to do as I wasn't getting through to him at all. Perhaps he sat and thought about it, had a chat with the Manager (who is lovely from what I've heard of her on the telephone) and maybe..just maybe, it was HER who told him to write the letter to try and iron things out. Now, he will be relieved that I'm giving him another chance. Well, I'd like to think so anyway!
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• United States
21 Jan 13
Hopefully, the doctor will have undergone an attitude adjustment prior to you seeing him. Otherwise, you may have to give him one at the appointment. I have little patience with medical professionals who irk me. I am certain that I have a reputation for being a "bad" patient. I really do not care. They work for me; they are here to help ensure my health. If they do not understand that, they are of no use to me.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
21 Jan 13
The thing is I could not register with that other Practice so I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. At least I spoke to the Manager (who isn't a doctor) FIRST, so, no doubt she will let the doctor know I have done so. Come Wednesday he will be sh!tting himself lol.