Is qualification necessary to apply for job
By Admin1993
@Admin1993 (628)
India
January 28, 2013 7:47am CST
Hi friends today being jobless i went to a small school so that i can teach atleast those kids,but unfortunately the Headmistress told me thy need qualification rather thanknowledge,i was shocked to hear this because i guarantte i can teach kids even though i have a bad english.
So again i told theHead madam i want to take up the job because igenuinely want to help the kids learn and in this way i will be able to give financial support to my family.
I am very unfortunate she told me to submit my qualification which i don't have.
So i want to know is qualification really very neccesary to get a job.
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27 responses
@Archie0 (5652)
•
28 Jan 13
You know how well you would teach the kids. But the Company outside they are bad. They require a written confirmation or proof that will give them assurance that you are capable of teaching the kids. They need some specific degree or qualification to be completed in order to gain the position. Even after i been done with my International Business Finance management studies lately. I wanted to enter into HR. But they threw me out stating that i am not qualified for HR. I was so upset because i wanted to be in HR. Now imagine, even when you are this qualified and they still need more what would you do? It is everything about the paper work they need certificates. and qualifications.
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@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
It seems that every Boss or Head Master need qualification which one can make a fake one with little experiences but unfortunatelyeveryones thinks their job in terms of money,and don't look at the welfare of the school or they are not kepping the job well.
Take an example some people take up the job just to make money but have no skills or knowledge but they get experienced after some months in that particular job.
I wonder why education qualification is trusted rather than knowledge.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
28 Jan 13
No...not necessary...but such a job would entail a lot of hard work..
The kind of jobs that I can think of off hand...
Assistant to LIC agents..or other insurance agents. They dont pay a lot, but you do get some monies...you would have to maintain records very systematically and pay the premiums promptly and run about to various people to collect premiums and deliver policies and receipts, and pay the premiums at the LIC office.
Post office agency...in fact, this you can take on your father's name, and do it. You can then run around to various high networth individuals, and make them buy National Savings Certificates (NSCs) for saving taxes. There is a commission for this work. Your limited qualifications may be considered...
You could start a cresche at your place, where working people can leave children with you, and you look after them the whole day...if you are ok with such things..
You could start a xerox center, along with computer center, and a coffee and tea supply center..and may be some other snacks too near some office...provided there are no such things out there..
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
29 Jan 13
Ideally, work under a Chartered Accountant, as a paid assistant, gain experience and grasp on accounts for about 4 to 5 years, and move out as an accountant...initially it doesnt pay well, but over that period, you learn a lot...they really squeeze the life out of you..lol
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@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Hi Aunty i really appreciate your wonderfull ideas.I really like xerox center with PC.haha.
I thought without qualification i might unable to survive in this economy.Thanks for encouraging me.
@Archieo,i agree with both of you and thanks for the wonderfull responses.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
29 Jan 13
Knowledge is of great value in itself, but without the qualifications to prove to others that you possess the knowledge it will not be recognised. It would be a different matter for someone in employment wishing to be promoted because they have been able to demonstrate their ability during the time that they have worked there. However, when it comes to be application for employment then the qualification is the only proof available that you do have jnowledge on the appropriate subject.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
30 Jan 13
I know qualification is the only proof but they requires a very high qualification certificate and that is 12pass and i hardly passed 9th which now i am unable to complete my studies and chase my qualifications.
I think i should take up my qualification certificate either by hook or crook.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
28 Jan 13
I do not agree that you should HAVE to have a qualification, such as a degree. I think that JOB EXPERIENCE in that field, whether it was paid or volunteer or intern should be considered as well, along with letters of recommendation or reference from other people who have either been your supervisor, coworker, etc who have knowledge of your experience in that area/job field.
Too much emphasis has been placed on having a piece of paper or a degree which people get from going to school or taking classes. Going to school or taking classes hardly qualifies you as having ANY EXPERIENCE, PERIOD, which is why I think it's more important to look at 'does this person have any experience in this field, doing the duties of this job, and am I able to get proof that the person did so satisfactorily based on the opinion of someone who worked with them or above them?' A piece of paper means nothing - you supposedly gained the knowledge or education required to do the job, but you did not actually DO THE JOB. Are people not understanding this? Even as a business owner, if I were to go about hiring a secretary, I don't need to require someone has an AA degree or a degree in accounting or office management, I want to hire someone who has had previous experience being a secretary or working in an office! IF they ALSO have a degree, GREAT but why require it except in the absence of any job experience? I would still maintain that if I were to choose between someone with ONLY a degree and NO job experience, or someone with plenty of previous job experience and a good recommendation but no degree or certificate, I would PREFER the person with EXPERIENCE. Hello! Who is more likely to know what they are doing? The person with job experience.
I think it is totally messed up that people want some stupid piece of paper which doesn't prove anything, just that you did not fail a class or a series of classes!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
28 Jan 13
I will add that people SHOULD either be in the process of getting a high school diploma or GED or HAVE that if they are over the age of 18 and an adult looking for a job, but beyond that, why? College or continued training is not mandatory, it is not paid for by the state, federal government, or taxpayers, and there are tons of people who are unable to afford it. It is not fair to penalize EVERYBODY who can't - and even middle income people sometimes can't because they do not qualify for any programs to help cover the cost, no grants, nothing financial need based, and who wants to start off their 17 or 18 year old high school grad with 150K of college loan debt?
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@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Well said and i appreciate that my friend.
Good that you have cleared my confusions and i hope to ask you when ever i have a difficult situation.
Happy mylottings.
@prashu228 (37524)
• India
28 Jan 13
Hi Admin
In my view Qualification is necessary for any job , if there is no qualification then there will be no difference between a Doctor and a Engineer. I can also go and join a Hospital as a Doctor , So in order to nullify every negative aspects Qualification is Must.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
28 Jan 13
Obviously for a job field that is VERY SPECIFIC, you need to have a degree and certification, but for basic jobs? No... I do not think people should be required to have a degree to get a job, period. Working in food, retail, basic office jobs, anything you sell, physical labor, etc - why? Pointless. I also believe that they should accept the most basic degree or cert if there is a way to implement internships or on the job training. If someone demonstrates they have the skills and knowledge needed, why require them to go to a class to get a piece of paper if they already KNOW EVERYTHING REQUIRED ALREADY?? Give them a test and then give them the degree if you need it so bad!
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Hi Mommyboo,i agree with your response.Yes they should give or take some test in order to prove he/she is eligible for particular job.
Not every one do that,they just need qualification and finally they face bad consequences.
Thanks for sharing.
@heaytheblogger (2876)
• Philippines
29 Jan 13
Well in some cases, yes. Because some companies are looking for those who really have what it takes most especially on what they filling up on their open position, they try to look for an employee which meets their certain standard.
Moreover, some would hire people who do have a complete track record in terms of set skills, working experiences, and job requirements.
But this really depends on the company that you wished to apply to, some are strict on their job qualification, while others are not.
@heaytheblogger (2876)
• Philippines
30 Jan 13
Thanks for your response, sure do that institution you are trying to land a position does have set standards for their applicants.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Hi friend thanks for sharing your idea and i too agree that yes some schools,colleges and companies needs qualification to employ people but in some cases like private schools who are owned and runned by single individuals don't need that,but unluckily this unique school asked me to have atleast 12grade qualifications to eligible for the job.
Thanks for the response and happy online mylottings.
@taheraa (1545)
• Giza, Egypt
29 Jan 13
Hi, Admin:
In some high-level schools, competency and qualification be a condition of acceptance, because these schools want to be at the highest education level of professionalism and skill.But I am surprised by this Director, after your words to her, when she said to you bring your resume and qualification annex did not get it from the original.
Do not make hopelessness enters to you, and patiently tried to get the job that you think you have competency.
I hope to God that gives you luck
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
They told me i can teach upto 5th standard but they asked to to submit my bio.
Well there is no way through which i could get the qualification certificate somehow because for that i will have to continue my studies and get a good rating qualification to apply for any jobs.
@tash01 (2030)
• Jamaica
29 Jan 13
Yes qualification is necessary,to apply for a job.Every body need papers now to apply for a jobs these days,because they require a written confirmation or proof that will give them assurance that you are capable of teaching the kids. Especially a time like now where a lot of things taking place at schools.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
30 Jan 13
Education qualification is neccesary and i have my highest education qualification of 9th standard haha..Those schools requires atleast 10Pass and unfortunately i am below 10th and so they rejected.
Not sad because i am not educated but literate and i think they need a person who is qualified and can able to keep the job well.
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
29 Jan 13
Qualifications consist of education, work experience, and personal characteristics. When they told you that you are not qualified, on what ground? Don't you have the educational training they require, don't you have any experience? How about your passion and your personal capabilities? Didn't they consider those?
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Well they asked me my highest education qualifications but my qualification was below 10th grade and here in my Town most are not well educated because it's remote.
BTW they asked me about my experiences and i told them i am a tutor,i gives tutions to small kids say upto 5th standard but unfortunately they said i won't be eligible for the job.
They asked me to submit my qualification certificate to be eligible even though i've knowledge and some previous experiences.
I agree my english is also bad but it dosen't matter as lon as i can teach them in accurate way,and kepping my job well i won't cause any problem to kids.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
29 Jan 13
Qualification is necessary because this determines how well you know the subject or topic that you are going to teach to the kids or if it was in an office, the company would want to know that you really know what you are doing based on what you have learned in school.
Having the knowledge is not enough. Coz all people who have been through school have knowledge somehow. But to be able to get a specific job, you must have the skills that goes along with the job that is required to be done.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
I agree with you that those who have qualifications are experienced and knowledgeable as they learned from schools and colleges.
I think i should continue my studies for qualifications.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
28 Jan 13
In many cases they do ask for qualifications but you can still do the job if you show you are able to. In some cases you are not allowed to work if you do not have the qualification for it. which is in my country if it comes to schools or universities, etc. Still it's weird since many teachers are way lower educated as the parents are.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
29 Jan 13
In my country the law will say that a teacher needs qualifications otherwise the school will be closed down. It is possible for students to "teach" next to a qualified teacher but only if they can prove they are studying for a teacher.
BTW I did hear from an acquintance he did give English lessons at an English private school, found that hard to believe since his English was kind really bad. Still he did it for 2 years or so. Perhaps the school will let you teach to get more experiences? In many countries it's no big deal as long as you are able to teach and the pupils (= school) have great grades/are improving. Personally I think that is what counts or? I know schools where children after visiting it for 6 years still are not able to write their own name. I also wonder how come you need all these qualifications and in many cases the teachers are still not know anything about grammar or can count (my 7 year old had fights with her teacher about that, she said the solutions are alright, the teacher said it was not. The teacher was not able to count, did check it wat a paper where all the answers were written down wrong). Also many parents do home schooling, they are not qualified at all but their children are higher educated as the once visiting regular schools. So what does this prove?
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Hi friend thanks for sharing your opinion and yes i agree some companies asked for qualifications but not all.
I express them that i want to work as a teacher in her school so that i can get experienced in this field.I told them i have less than one years experience because i used to give tutions to small kids like from UKG to 5th standard as a junior tutor.
I think getting employed now a days is not only difficult but impossible without education qualifications.
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@arnabroy16 (438)
• Howrah, India
28 Jan 13
Ofcourse qualification is necessary. It is the basic parameter to judge about the person's knowledge.For an example a mechanic may have a good knowledge but he can't be appointed as a engineer as he don't have any qualification..
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
I agree if only,people employed those experienced and knowledgeable person in certain fields without comparing or considering his/her qualification rather than knowledge.
But unluckily people get scared or respect those people who are graduated.But they have no knowledge then what's the use of qualification.
I think knowledge should be trusted,i not mean that expect knowledge but literate and educated too.
Many people are famous,even if they are uneducated but they have knowledge like..bill gates,elbert einstien,they are not educated but are famous and great honor people.
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
29 Jan 13
How can you say the people you mentioned are not educated? Of course they're educated. How could Bill Gates possibily have been so successful of he was not educated? You need to find a way to further your own education if you want to be even a small percentage as successful as those you mentioned.
@deiusz (193)
• Indonesia
29 Jan 13
i think the school or the company of the school need blacn on white, paper guarantee only for qualification. From that paper they believe in you.
I can suggestion try to be online worker, so many small job on the need that may be you can try it out to support your financial like odesk.com, freelancer.
Before going in, you should read carefull how they work and all the processed until you received the cash. It's more good if you already know the flowchart all the processed.
only need one 'mus be' requirement and that is internet connection. It's not quick rich schema but at least you can make money from there besides writing here.
Other things is some website offering you good money by writing article which is i believe you've already know.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Thanks friend for recommending those wonderfull earning websites but i can't to on odesk nor on freelancer.
Coming to writing,haha this is one of the craziest and funniest part,because if i was able to write online and earn writing articles then i would never have tried to apply for any jobs.
Thanks for the responses.
@Hence27 (450)
• India
29 Jan 13
It depends upon what type of job you are interested to do.If you need a job in teaching,bank or in a company,you need qualification,but you want to do another field jobs like LIC agent or a like,then you need not any qualification for it.If you do business,it requires only experience,not qualification.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
30 Jan 13
Thanks friend for the response,i didn't realize the differences between those jobs that requires qualification and that are not.Thanks for letting me aware about those.
Yeah,some jobs requires qualification but they very high qualifications,even to teach kids i need minimum 12Pass,so in this situation i need to practise my english and build my vocubalary and aim to become a writer.
Taht will be better idea for me,than to waste my time sekking a job.
@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
29 Jan 13
Hi Admin1993, here in my country qualification is a must to apply for job in majority fields. I believe such situation happens similarly in other countries as well, especially in government departments. On account of this parents here pay high attention in their children education. Only rich people don't have to worry if they don't have qualification as they don't reply solely on qualification. They have sufficient capital to start their own business If one doesn't have the needed qualification he would get less salary even though he works in the same post. Quite unfair right! Doing same work but getting different amount of payment
Happy posting
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
You know,i resides in a small town in Kohima,Nagaland and there few are educated but are empty vessels.They just thinks their jobs only interms of money.
Well no issues even if have qualification but the main problem is people should look for experienced and who have enough knowledge to that jobs.
Thanks for the response and happy online lottings.
@toyota4k (1208)
• Philippines
29 Jan 13
Nowadays, with the countless job seekers hunting for work, it was made a standard the one qualification, is the educational attainment and to some, with lots o experience. Good English might not be a priority now that the teaching method should be with the mother tongue, that is if ti was here in the Philippines.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Yeah due to overpopulation the governments or private schools are unable to provide jobs to those who are coming out of shools and colleges every year.
They have qualifications but less knowledge and another reasons is overpopulation.
I have some ideas on this teaching fields but i was rippedoff.
Thanks for your response.
@verolop29 (1096)
• United States
29 Jan 13
HI friend! where i come from, educations is key to getting that job that will pay for your needed expenses.
I myself am looking for a job outside my home and im not getting anywhere. So I have decided to be my own boss and that is bringing in money guite nicely! you see, I sell body wraps for a living on and offline. i have a small costomer base and thats ok with me!
dont give up. you will find that job that you want most!
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Thanks for sharing your bio.
Well i just wanted to take this teaching job because i want to be an expert one in this field and in this way my english will be improved.For me this job was more than money but unfortunately i lose it.
Maybe i should start my own business so that i can make good living.
Thanks for the wonderfull ideas.
@Janurmas (642)
• Indonesia
28 Jan 13
Seem that you are really confidence for your knowledge of teaching kids. But, nowadays company need some written qualifications as proof that you are expert in the required job you would like to apply. I think the company would not considering you to be qualified for the job. don't be loss hearth my friend. You still have many opportunities to get other job. Good luck.
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
Thanks friend for encouraging me.And i really hope to get a job,because we also need some jobs to survive.
For me teaching and explaining jobs are bit easy even if i have a bad english i can do that.
Time to forget about this job and will have to seek another job soon.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@teotimoponcerosacena (1552)
• Philippines
29 Jan 13
Yes, how will they know your worth without your qualifications.With you qualifications they will have idea what kind of assignment they will assigned for you for you o accomplished ,
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
I agree with you but i saw some people who have written degrees but are unable to write even a leave application.Because they have learned nothing,they just passed their exams by crook,but most Clients trust their qualification.
That's a very bad news that if you have knowledge but no qualification the you're not eligible for any job and this sentence is opposite.
@tanvirnabi123 (126)
•
29 Jan 13
Hello Admin
Your asking for a job is quiet right but think why there are so many formal educational institutions. They are imparting education targeting the learners skill and professionally competent. After completion they are conferring certificate on the basis of courses and degree.Teaching is a challenging profession. Teaching kids are more challenging. There exists odd,disruptive and different type of students. Mere knowledge is not enough in teaching kids. You require systematic approach and professional skills to deal these delicate groups. Head of any institution obviously demand needful qualification, training and knowledge to meet the professional purpose.
Tanvir Nabi
@Admin1993 (628)
• India
29 Jan 13
I didn't realize that,i thought teaching kids is many times better than any job.
Thanks for the expert response.