TERMINATOR 3: Wouldn't It Change the Future if John Knew Who Would Kill Him?
@mythociate (21432)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
February 2, 2013 11:31pm CST
I saw TERMINATOR 3: RISE OF THE MACHINES and got cleared-up on a few things (both 'on points of the story' and 'of the nasal-congestion I got while watching THE FIFTH ELEMENT' 
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It wasn't 'the T-800 & T-1000' in T3, it was 'the T-101 (Schwarzenegger) & the T-X (Kristanna Loken).' (Maybe 'T-800 & T-1000' were in T2, I forget.)
And "Judgement Day" wasn't 'something mysterious that the audience doesn't know about' (as TERMINATOR SALVATION made it seem), it actually took place at the end of T3.
TERMINATOR SALVATION showed why the 'infiltrationaters' (i.e. terminators made to assassinate from within The Resistance) were not allowed to believe they were human---because humanity chooses life (even though it's more-painful).
Oh wait, a T-800 DOES "kill" John in TERMINATOR SALVATION---right before the T- ... -100? -102? -Y? ... SAVES JOHN'S LIFE by giving him its human heart!
But still ... I think it points to the secret of time-travel, and why time-travel is an absolute last-ditch option: because it ends the world. Not with a bang, not with a whimper ... just---not.
The entire world outside of the time-bubble just disappears & the present starts at the past. The two time-travelers in each of the first three TERMINATOR-movies were from different (but similar) worlds.
But what about now? Will John live a little longer? Where will TERMINATOR go from here? Is John Connor the REAL Terminator? Will he give birth to the race of Daleks? Is The Doctor (from DOCTOR WHO) therefore future-humanity's enemy?
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It wasn't 'the T-800 & T-1000' in T3, it was 'the T-101 (Schwarzenegger) & the T-X (Kristanna Loken).' (Maybe 'T-800 & T-1000' were in T2, I forget.)
And "Judgement Day" wasn't 'something mysterious that the audience doesn't know about' (as TERMINATOR SALVATION made it seem), it actually took place at the end of T3.
TERMINATOR SALVATION showed why the 'infiltrationaters' (i.e. terminators made to assassinate from within The Resistance) were not allowed to believe they were human---because humanity chooses life (even though it's more-painful).
Oh wait, a T-800 DOES "kill" John in TERMINATOR SALVATION---right before the T- ... -100? -102? -Y? ... SAVES JOHN'S LIFE by giving him its human heart!
But still ... I think it points to the secret of time-travel, and why time-travel is an absolute last-ditch option: because it ends the world. Not with a bang, not with a whimper ... just---not.
The entire world outside of the time-bubble just disappears & the present starts at the past. The two time-travelers in each of the first three TERMINATOR-movies were from different (but similar) worlds.
But what about now? Will John live a little longer? Where will TERMINATOR go from here? Is John Connor the REAL Terminator? Will he give birth to the race of Daleks? Is The Doctor (from DOCTOR WHO) therefore future-humanity's enemy?2 responses
@cecil04 (409)
• South Africa
4 Feb 13
I don't really get the whole Terminator movie series myself. In Terminator 2 I thought all the remains of the first terminator and the second were destroyed so that should have been the end of it. In Terminator 3 the third terminator came from the future to protect John Connor but not to stop the machines. The other thing is if they were able to stop the machines in the past wouldnt that have ment John Connor would have never been born in the first place and there would be no terminator sent to the past. This is just one of those loops in time that just happen to be there with no logical reason.
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
8 Feb 13
DOCTOR WHO & TERMINATOR both deal with time-travel.
And in TERMINATOR 3 the government had built a totally-new SkyNet (and I think they actually ran all the army's equipment on it).
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
5 Feb 13
But isn't SkyNet based upon some technology that was left behind by one of the Terminators before? Maybe it was alien technology, gathered by ... oh, that group that started with technology aliens left behind in DOCTOR WHO---White Castle, Tea Garden???
(taking some time to do a MyLot Search search ... http://search.mylot.com/search.aspx?t=web&k=%22Doctor+Who%22+%22Captain+Jack%22?ref=mythociate Torchwood!)
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
3 Feb 13
I don't think there will be any cross stories between Dr. Who and the Terminator.
If you are caught up on time travel or the passage of time, you should read Kurt Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five" or try to see the movie. In the story, the main character, Billy Pilgrim, is captured by a race of aliens from the planet Trafamador where they live in the 4th dimension. They make Billy become unstuck in time. He ends up traveling up and down his own timeline moving from one point in his life to anther. He keeps reliving parts of his live over and over again without knowing where he'll be from one point to the next. He even knows who will kill him and where and when.
@burrito88 (2774)
• United States
5 Feb 13
Slaughterhouse Five seems like a different premise. Billy seems to move back and forth in his life without control so he doesn't know where he will be next. He also has no ability to change things so he's doomed to relive different parts of his life. Even when he's killed, he doesn't really die, he just moves to another part of his life and relives it again. The high point of his life comes after he is taken to the planet Tralfamador and is basically put into a zoo. His life does get better in the zoo after the aliens kidnap a Playboy playmate so that he can have a mate.
