Dear men: how big is your ego?
By MissPiggy
@MissPiggy (1748)
Indonesia
February 4, 2013 4:21am CST
Seriously, I'm really asking this especially for all the men who have been in a relationship for long. Even I need those who have been married for years.
What do you expect from you partner? I mean, we can't read your mind and you expect the woman to understand you, right? But how can we understand if you don't say anything???
I'm the type of woman who discuss everything, talk about anything, plan it all, but when it comes to love I prove it. I act. I show it. I might don't say a lot, but I do it. When I'm in a relationship I give everything to it. But I also expect the same. I don't need words. I can't be enough only with "the most important thing is I love you and care about you" but it isn't proved by action!! How can I believe everything that has been said if there's no action?!
Okay, I start to become emotional here.
So come, make me understand what kind of character is the creature we call "man"? Please, tell me. Teach me how to understand man.
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8 responses
@webearn99 (1742)
• India
4 Feb 13
Dear MissPiggy, to put it all simply, we men are very simple. It is this simplicity that is misunderstood.
You say we are not communicative, while we hold our silence for as long as possible. Nature has given us two ears and only one tongue that says it all!
You say we are not demonstrative, we go back to the same lady for years and years, that should demonstrate it all!
You say you give everything to a relationship, we have given up what the constitution of every country gives up, freedom.
We have a different way of conveying our feelings, anger is frustration, rage is helplessness, joy is when we simply let you be.
Trust me, you would not like if we did exact same things you do! Praise nature for diversity!
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@webearn99 (1742)
• India
5 Feb 13
It is just that we men are not verbal in communication for the most part. Action is the faith we have in you and the faithfulness we maintain for a marriage to survive for a lifetime.
Being demonstrative has somehow escaped the male psyche, perhaps because of the nature of culture which demanded the male go out and earn for the family, for eons. The situation has changed now, I agree, but it will take sometime for change of psyche.
As of now, "sensitivity", which is the precursor to being demonstrative, is not exactly in the male domain. It, in these times of liberation, may as well raise questions about "preferences".
By "go back", I mean being faithful, the very foundation of a fulfilling marriage.
My reference to the constitution was in the lighter vein, as you may have inferred by now. Independence for a male is sacrosanct. Nothing personal here, it has been so for ages.
By "different", I mean, being stoic in pain, being there for family without drawing attention, taking charge in times of need and many more ways of behaving.
I do get the point you are making, I have had many such "discussions" with my wife in the thirty odd years of marriage.
What I am trying to say is that nature has made two genders, broadly. Each with biological and behavioral uniqueness. This uniqueness is the diversity that makes a relationship.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 13
So understanding stands above all? Or is it compromise? How do you overcome the boredom during the relationship? But first I have to ask, during the thirty years of marriage (which is not odd, my parents are married for 36 years now) have you ever felt bored with your wife? Even just once. And if you have, what did you do? If you haven't, what did your wife do so that you're not bored of her? I'm not trying to imitate anything, I'm collecting data and knowledge.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 13
But if you are communicative, why do you have to hold your silence as long as possible? It's not about says it all, it's about does it all. That's my point. I don't ask for words, I ask for action. Is that too much?
What do you mean "go back"? You mean "go home"? Because "go back" seems to me that you often separate for some time and go back again.
I don't mean to talk about the constitution or country. I mean for the relationship itself. Between one man and one woman. That small circle only.
And what is this different way? That's what I want to learn. I might find one that matches my guy.
And what is the thing I do? Showing the love for the person we love? Then why won't I like it?
Do you get the point of my discussion? I want to learn to understand, I don't want to stand against the man's character. That's my point. Why is it become the praise of the nature for diversity?
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
4 Feb 13
It's hard since not all the men are the same and think the same way. This applies to all people. If they want to be understood, they should express it, talk about it and act on those words.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 13
My man is the type of quiet man. So can you imagine how hard for me to understand what he wants? And ask him to act? We have to argue first.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 13
Uughh...I often ask what's the matter and even give time. Sometimes it even takes a day until everything cools down and then we can talk. But yes, patience. That's something I have to work out a lot.
Do books really help?
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
4 Feb 13
Arguing will not help the situation. So it is important to keep a cool head. There are people who are very quiet so you need to talk and ask them specific questions so they will answer.
Like if you ask, "What's the matter?"
The question is too general and quiet people may not want to talk at length. So, small and specific questions might help. Also, when you are patient and you wait for him to say something or you can state that he talk to you when he is ready, there's higher possibility he will talk.
Like kitty said, you might find relationship books useful for this.
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@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
8 Feb 13
Hi Miss Piggy: I think you won't find a definitive answer as men are not equal to one to another. I am just talking about myself and my expectations. I want someone that makes me feel happy so good sense of humour it's a must for me and a nice personality. Someone who understands or make her best to understand me. I won't lie, I want someone attractive to my eyes and even if she doesn't need to be a super model I must feel attracted. I also like girls with ambition- that are working to get what they want and that look for their future as professionals.
The list could be enlarged but I think it can be summarize in: someone who can love me and understand me just a friend does but in a romantic context.
ALVARO
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
8 Feb 13
Hi there, Alvaro. Thank you for sharing but don't you think this kind of girl is like one in a million? Like me, for example, if my man wants the same girl as you do, I think I can fulfill all of them except the "attractive" part. I don't know, somehow that is difficult to do. I can attract men using my brain. But that's just it. However, of course there's always someone who can fulfill those. The "understanding" part is just the same, though. All people want others to understand them. Right?
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
4 Feb 13
What kind of character is the man? All men have different characters (which is a good thing) just like women. There are plenty of books written about how men and how women think/communicate. Might be a good idea you read them? I think men have exactly the same problem by not understanding what women want, talk about, why they talk non stop or Always feel the need to talk, discuss, inform... To be honest, I am a woman but I don't feel that need at all, it tires me out as well.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 13
But I have just read your response that we women must get the same thing what we give to men. Books don't really help since they have more theories than reality. People like you, on the other hand, have done more than just theory.
But look, since you're also a woman, is it wrong if I demand attention from my man? I mean, the same attention I gave to him. We live in different cities and both of us are busy. But I still have time to text him or even think about him. But he doesn't seem to do the same. If I protest him, he would do what I want, but then when everything seems fine, he's back to his daily behavior. So do I demand too much? What should I do?
I know you would tell me straight on my face the truth. So tell me, please. This is what I don't understand.
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@mranjaan (136)
•
5 Feb 13
Oh MissPiggy, only you are such woman who wants to understand the "man".
I am also a man, no ego, only straight forward. Yesterday we were celebration our Ist marriage anniversary. I love my wife so much by words, by emotions, by the heart and i ever prove it. My wife also loves me, but she cant prove.
So dont take it deeply, Every man/woman has a different nature, some are very straight, and some are very difficult, some are very co-operative, and some are teasing personalities. "Variety is the spice of life".
So that you do, what you want, dont try to understand your husband/man.. Leave him in his world.
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 13
Omg...what you said is so difficult to be done! Don't try to understand? How come? So what do you usually do when there's a problem between you two? Or do you compromise everything? Like "this is what I like, back off. That is what you like, do it"?
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@teotimoponcerosacena (1552)
• Philippines
4 Feb 13
If I were you just do what you want to do be happy and responsible. Stop thinking of what he want for you to do, for you will be his prisoner for life. He must be responsible enough to knew his obligation. Why waste on person who treat you of no value. Do things to the best, if he like you, so be it. If he don't, there are people who will notice of what you did and who you are and will definitely love you.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 13
For me, what you said seems so easy to imagine but so hard to do. He says he likes me. But do you think it's enough? I mean, what about your opinion? Do you think saying "the most important thing is I love you and care about you" is enough? When you say it is enough, then I might want to be more patient. Do you think I demand too much?
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
7 Feb 13
Couldn't resist responding to this.
I think what you are feeling is natural piggy.
If a partner says that it's as if he is not trying to get better or change because he is already satisfied with what he is doing and you don't find it satisfying.
I'd be annoyed if my boyfriend said that to me and not do anything else. So maybe you can try and suggest some things he can do for you, sometimes, men just need our guidance in order to learn how to make us happy. We can't just sit there, wait and see, we have to act our part as well.
If we want things done, we got to take action.
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@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
7 Feb 13
I have done a small thing actually. I stay quiet. I told him that I'd turn my phone off if he thought I disturbed him so much and he said "don't, please". But I still did. And the next day (which was yesterday), he was the one who started the communication. I only replied. I kept silent if he didn't say anything. And it happens until today, and I'm still going to do it tomorrow. See, what I learned here is that he actually can't stay from me, all I need is just giving him a little space and a chance to miss me.
Do you think I've done something good?
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
Hi misspiggy men are not the talkers, we are, they are the doers. My husband would not write a gushy poem but would dig up a wheelbarrow full of Shasta daisies to show how much he loved me and plant them too. love. Men will not tell you anything that they think will upset you, they will go off and sulk in a corner until you grab them and make them tell you what the hell is troubling them.Do not ask them
to show you how to do something as they will at once just do it for you .but woe to you if you ask them to do something as its I am watching the football game, basketball game baseball game. cant it wait? men are not from Mars no no some really far off galaxy wet have never even heard of. lol
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
12 Feb 13
Wow! The last sentence finally makes me feel better. You're right. My dad never tells my mom he loves her and they have been married for almost 36 years! But he indeed does everything my mom wants him to do. But even so, my mom has to seek for the perfect time to ask him to do so. So wow...relationship is really an amazing thing that needs a lifetime learning. Am I correct?
@iWhizkid (31)
• United States
5 Feb 13
Misspiggy, like you, i want to understand women; because i have been rejected for alot of times now and i want to know why?
Was it because of me being honest with my fiance and i told her that i have been in a relationship before her, to which she said she's fine with it and after two years she realized she don't love me.
Misspiggy, men are all different like women, i do act love, not only talk when i am in a relationship but even than i fail. Which, make me realize its a problem with the people we're with not us, not all of the men or women.
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 13
Well, I know I have to admit that even we, women, are not perfect creature. We aren't angels. Some of us really nice, some of us really jerk. Just like you said, we're different.
But to me, I want to learn from this diversity of characters. And I agree with what you said, this isn't about man or woman actually, but about the person.
Geez...we're full of mysteries, aren't we?