Old Fashioned Or Right?
By robspeakman
@robspeakman (1700)
February 8, 2013 2:58pm CST
I am not one to bring arguments to a public forum...
However, I think in this case I want to know if I am old fashioned or right.
What is the global viewpoint.
I have a 19 year old daughter -
She has a boyfriend -
And he is a pr|ck.
Apart from the fact that he has grubby male hormonal thoughts about my little girl...
Or the fact that when I first met him he asked "What should I call you? Rob or Dad?"
I have seen his mother, I ain't his Dad.
I clarified the situation - "Mr Speakman will do"
A Daughter's boyfriend should respect or fear the father
No I am old fashioned because I question my Daughter and ask....
Why does he not walk you home when you have been out together?
Why does he never meet you from University?
And why does he not collect you from the house when you are going out?
Am I being old fashioned in asking that the boyfriend of my Daughter acts and behaves like a Gentleman?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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8 Feb 13
My daughter's 'beau' came to collect her for her 6th form prom wearing an old jacket, jeans and his shirt untucked. I sent him home to get ready! Which he did. Came back in a suit. Glad to say that he's dating someone else's daughter now! We need to insist on some standards. If we don't how will they learn? Gosh but I am sounding like my Dad!
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
8 Feb 13
I really commend you for doing what you did. Not everyone would have had the guts to do it and this is why these young lads show little respect for young ladies.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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8 Feb 13
I knew that his dad, who I am friendly with, would have done the same as me. I am the least scary person on earth but all my daughters boyfriends somehow act very nicely when they come here. Of course I was a professional hit man when I was younger. My eye is still pretty good! LOL.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
9 Feb 13
You are not old fashioned, you have every right to make sure the guy who is dating your daughter looks after her, treats her with respect and has manners, they cost nothing, from the way you speak he sounds like a waste of space and I would have my heckles up if that is his attitude. I hope your daughter soon sees through him.
@robspeakman (1700)
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9 Feb 13
Not sure if it is a case of seeing through him.
I don't think she sees it as relevant.
I think that this current generation has made a massive shift from the norm.
Every generation does try to be different from the previous one, until they see what is right and proper about how the previous generation may have done things..... But this generation could be a different species completely
@dlr297 (5409)
• United States
9 Feb 13
No you are not being old fashioned. Men with no respect have always been around. If a boyfriend would have treated me like that you better believe he would not have been my boyfriend for long. and i believe that i would not let any man treat me with that little respect.
you are Right
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@robspeakman (1700)
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9 Feb 13
I do believe that it may be a generational shift to be honest.
Respect for me does not matter, it is how he treats my daughter that matters - If I am honest I suspect she does not see it as an issue
@heleighna (102)
• Philippines
9 Feb 13
I salute you as a parent that cares so much to your daughter, some of the parents i know don't even bother to meet the boyfriends of their daughters.for me you are not old fashioned, you are just acting your part as a concern Dad.. And as a boyfriend that young man should respect you for the very reason that you are his girlfriends DAD. He should know that..
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@robspeakman (1700)
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9 Feb 13
Respect from him for me is irrelevant - I want him to treat my daughter correctly
@blackrusty (3519)
• Mexico
9 Feb 13
you are most correct a man should always be repectful to ones parents and well think with his private parts he has no right to call you dad or by your first name unless you say ok and any time he talk to you it should be MR what ever you last name is
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
9 Feb 13
Hi Rob,
As a parent who has raised 4 girls, I do not feel that you are being old-fashioned at all. At 19, it is your daughter's choice who she dates and all but I would be questioning these kinds of things also. I would be especially concerned that he does not pick her up or escort her home. IT's all about respect and while your daughter probably doesn't see it this way right now...it's also self-respect. I do recall being a teen and trust me, I dated some real losers that my parent's just could not stand. My girls were no different.
I am in the States and I'm sure that our customs our very different than yours but it is your house and your rules. Until she is on her own, you can set any rules you want and be within your rights. One thing I would really, really enforce would be that he at least make sure my daughter made it to the door safely. I would NOT be ok with my girl at any age walking home alone. If he cares about her, then he should not be ok with it either. Anything could happen. If they are on foot, a decent man would pick her up as well. I would also make sure that she informed you of what time she was coming back in. In this case it is not only respect but a safety issue.
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@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
9 Feb 13
No I don't think that you are being too old fashioned but I do think that you need to at least give your daughter's boyfriends a chance when you think that they may actually be worth your daughter's time and love. I do support you though entirely on questioning young men because there are a lot of guys out there that are just trying to get in a woman's pants and don't really have any real plans of staying with them or truly care about there feelings.
I know that once I become a dad I will be doing the same thing as you, trying to protect my daughter from getting hurt by some jerk. At least I'll know what to look out for when I'm a dad because I see the characteristics that stupid frat style guys have and their attitudes just show how unworthy they are of the beauty of nice girls. Hopefully your daughter can find an incredible man that will take care of her and help her to reach her goals and dreams.
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@Berardesco (83)
• Cleveland, Tennessee
9 Feb 13
Of you aren't asking to much when it comes to little girl. You should also not feel bad about laying down the rule when it comes for him to have respect for your daughter and for you. If he can't do it right tell him he is no longer welcome in your home or allowed to go out with your daughter.
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@tiffnkeat (1673)
• Singapore
9 Feb 13
When I dated my wife, she specifically asked me to call her dad to ask for permission to date his daughter. Frankly, the relationship between the father and daughter will come a long way.
Have you spoken to your daughter to speak your mind? Tell her frankly yet lovingly how you read the situation. Seek her understanding because she knows you are speaking in love.
If she calls you old-fashion, maybe in due time, when she becomes a mother, she will look back and know how much you cared when you opened up to her.
I hope all turn out for you...and your daughter. And if she doesn't relent, I wish you the very best with your (future) son-in-law. Pray that he will change to be a gentleman.
Cheers!
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@giggles721 (275)
• Philippines
9 Feb 13
Daughters or teenagers in general wouldn't understand a parent's point of view. They'll only realize that they weren't treated properly after they've gone through several bad relationships. What you are doing as a father is just right. maybe just give a little more explanation because they do get it once they hear the cold truth about relationships like that. Explain why a guy should show respect to the girl's family.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
9 Feb 13
hmmmm...( this is as if we are close friends.... ) was there a little tear when you saw your daughter's bf? just wondering... most dads do... seeing their little girl now a grown up lady...
No you are just right, i think most fathers could ask and wonder same questions like you do. it is just normal...
specially if the boy is quite odd.
@extremefun4fun (2908)
• India
9 Feb 13
well it is not old fashion that you talk about.... it is right... the respect that you want and yonger one that should acccept... these days it is a common problems with many families that they have complain about their child, we are pattern of our children... with our love and patient all will be well... we guide our children but not to force them... we teach them every good and bad but finally choice belong to enybody....
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
9 Feb 13
In my opinion respect never goes out of style. He should respect you and he should respect your daughter. "Sir" would be a nice name to call you.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
8 Feb 13
He sounds just how you describe him. Of courdse he should pick her up and bring her home-especially with all the rapes/murders/muggings that are going on.
You may be called old fashioned by some but in my opinion you are a caring Dad. She deserves better doesn't she? Tell her that.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
8 Feb 13
Perhaps he's scared of you so he can't be ar*sed. Just sayin'.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
8 Feb 13
Not necessarily. It depended on various factors. It depended on how far away I was from home (therefore a taxi was in order) and if I was within walking distance of my home I would actually run so I got there quicker, especially when I was drunk.
Your hackles are raised already as you obviously don't like the guy, so why should he go out of his way to please you? He's going out with your daughter, not you and if you moan at her about him she'll only dig her heels in even more and perhaps - even - leave home.
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@robspeakman (1700)
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8 Feb 13
He is not there to please me...
His ideal situation would be never to meet me again.
If he treats my daughter with respect and like a lady, then he will never have to deal with me again.
I used the term walk home as a general term.
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@robspeakman (1700)
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8 Feb 13
That would be a feeble reason.
Tell me Janey - Did a young man never escort you home?
And would you expect anything else
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
10 Feb 13
You are not doing anything that any other normal concerned father would do. I see nothing wrong with you are doing. Ask all the questions anytime. But at the same token, listen to your daughter. Remember, one day she is going to marry someone. Maybe not this guy, but someone for sure. She is the one that ultimately needs to be happy. We are here to guide and protect out children. But we can only do so much. As long as we keep our eyes open and our ears open, we should be good to go. And, if your daughter is a good kid, then I am sure, no matter what, if she ever got into trouble with this guy, she would call you and ask for help.
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
11 Feb 13
I understand that. But we all had our own little things that we did as young adults. And our parents were also from a different time zone. But, you're right, there should be some element of respect involved.
@robspeakman (1700)
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10 Feb 13
I do accept that it may be a generational thing, but I find no reason why he can not be a gentleman
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
8 Feb 13
Of course you arent asking to much. But if he doesnt do these things.. why doesnt your daughter step in and ask him to. SHe knows dad best and knows what you expect.And if she has asked him to be respectful, and he isnt. Hit the road Jack and dont come back for my girl again.
@robspeakman (1700)
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8 Feb 13
It is not just me though.
Her mother expect the same thing too.
Another thing that really bothers me about him.
he is a University student and he refuses to get a part time job because he says his student loan is enough.
Misses the point of working a grubby part time job - Never about the money, it is about learning about the workplace
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
8 Feb 13
And of course your daughter wont see it or listen to you im sure....