Food Fraud - Rogue Food

Horse Meat, Beef Or Venison - Right before you can you determine if this is horse meat, beef or venison. Make a guess to see if you can be right.
@artemeis (4194)
China
February 14, 2013 7:48pm CST
It seems like the West have not learned their lessons from the fatal Mad Cow's Disease and E coli. Now we have horse meat being passed off as beef. I think a lot of people must be wondering what's wrong and worrying about this rampant food fraud issue. Disgusting as it may seem but horse meat has found itself in Italy's famous Lasagne and Ireland's Irish beefburgers. I think Italians must be wondering what meat they had for their meat sauce. Food fraud is getting serious and shocking as it may seem but true where a Waitrose (UK), the most upmarket of all the supermarkets, has been caught up in the scandal, after DNA tests showed that its discount range of frozen beef meatballs contained up to one third pork. Fortunately, nothing of the bad sort has happened with these horse meat but I am sure everyone is concern given the fact that diseases has incubation time before it explodes and become an epidemic. I am really keeping my fingers crossed on this one and hope that the authorities would step up with their job and increase their checks on the foods that are sold on the shelves and restaurants. Contrary to the news article's title where it implies that we can't find rogue meat if we don't look for it. What's happening? Are businesses so bad that businessmen have to abandon their conscience? Could we trust food labels anymore? Ref: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9867838/Horse-meat-fraud-If-you-dont-look-for-it-you-cant-find-it.html
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
15 Feb 13
We have several states here in mexico that HAve reported the same thing here. With some off the smaller states in bad poverty. Id bet its true here. Hope its not. Have a great weekend there.
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• Canada
16 Feb 13
I am enclosing a link so that you can appraise yourself of the truth of horse slaughterhouses. Research will show you that since 2007, the only TWO countries in North America that slaughter horses...ARE MEXICO and CANADA! In 2007 horse slaughtering ended in the U.S., which created a 49 percent increase in shipments to Canada and a 51 percent increase to Mexico. In 2008, House Judiciary Chairman, John Conyers (Democrat, Mi) along with Rep. Dan Burton (Rep-Ind.) introduced the "Prevention of Equine Cruelty Act of 2008" which prohibited the slaughter of American Horses for human consumption! This Bill did NOT stop the export of horses to both Canada and Mexico for slaughtering! For Canada alone, this became a 70 million dollar export commodity..I do NOT have the facts for Mexico..but that data could be easily explained. Most of Europe and the Asian countries are the biggest importers! Previous to this bill in the U.S., Canada had only 3 slaughterhouses...and now, because of the Bill, Canada has 7! Mexico has 12! The U.S. has washed it's hands of the dirty deed...but is quilty of supplying and transporting these equine in VERY, VERY CRUEL conditions. For reference only, I supply these two links; www.hsiccanada.ca z Horses and www.defendhorsescanada.org/ or www.animalsangels.com I warn you, these sites will break your heart. I have been a very active member, since 2007, and we are just about to get a Bill passed thru parliament that will control the horrendous shipping conditions and slaughterhouse conditions in Canada. We cannot do anything about the conditions in Mexico.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
This is really scary considering that the undeclared meat has reached to countries as far as Mexico. I am wondering how it can actually happen and I am very suspicious of the state of these meat now. From the suppliers right down to the processed beef producers, I believe non of them are innocent if you know what I mean and the horses better be healthy and bred according to safe agricultural standards. I simply could not forget the chilling Mad Cow's disease outbreak a couple of years ago. Don't mean to joke but seriously I am not looking for a crazy horse outbreak.
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• Mexico
16 Feb 13
sure is, I once read mexico used to send horses to slaughter houses in canada. Many here told me they made alot of money doing that.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
15 Feb 13
I don't trust our food system at all and not just for meat. I don't eat much beef because I can only eat grass fed (and finished, when I can find it) and it's expensive. I do enjoy a hamburger (homemade) sometimes, though. As they say, though, there is nothing new under the sun. Milk sold in the city used to have water and chalk added and corn meal sometimes had sawdust in it. Bread from bakeries had quite a bit of cheap alum in it. Those are just a few things they used to do, and that's why they started policing the food industry. They haven't done a very good job of it, have they?
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
I don't know how it has arrived for you but I believe your cynicism is being justified with this latest development. Sad but scary as well, when these food labels means nothing these days. I really do not know where these horses come from and to find their meat now in almost all of the known processed beefs, I have to believe that the authorities are not only not doing their jobs but are in bed with these scrupulous businessmen. However, I am happy that the problem is now being looked into and not swept under the rug. Read: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9874398/Horse-meat-in-school-dinners.html
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
16 Feb 13
You're right; the authorities are probably helping them rather than stopping them. At least it's out in the public so they have to look into it now.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
16 Feb 13
Sadly, some of the facts here are convoluted! The law of supply and demand reigns here! Canada and Mexico would not have slaughterhouses for horses if it were NOT FOR the demand created by Europe and ASIA! For Canada alone, it is a 70 Million dollar export business. Your country is one that is importing horse-meat. It is up to your country to label the content of your consumptives..as we are exporting a raw product! Horses ARE NOT more expensive to raise than Beef, Pork or Lamb! The entire population of feral (wild horses) is nearing extinction due to the culinary demands of Europe and Asia. Wild horses cost nothing, other than the round-up! Non-productive horses (those that have retired from racing, jumping, showing) are part of the slaughtering. Please take the time to view one or two of the links, I have added to another response...and you will see the slaughtered horses are shipped as whole carcasses for the butchers in your country and Europe to create whatever cut the consumer wants. Therefore the food is processed in your country, and that is where the label is put on...it cannot be blamed on the West!
• Canada
16 Feb 13
Absolutely not...I do not know what country you live in...and if by reading some of the other responses, I drew some wrong conclusions..I apologize for my error. I will then ask you, are you producing and exporting independently? Because of the transport and slaughter conditions of horses, we have formed a large union here in Canada, to make every effort to improve both conditions...and we now have a bill before Parliament, waiting to be signed in the next session. Horse meat can only be found in specialty Butcher Shops, in Canada.. Once again, I apologize for placing you in the wrong country!
@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
First of all, do you know which country I am from when you state as a matter of fact that my country is one that is importing horse-meat? I'd really like to hear what you have to say when I think you have no idea where I am from because I am very sure we are not importing horse meat from Canada when we are able to produce and export independently! So, come again?
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
16 Feb 13
Perhaps business indeed has gotten so bad that business people need to think of more creative (if not legal) ways in order to have more earnings with lesser costs. It's sad that we have to go through all this crisis but I do hope that there won't be any epidemic from all the horse meat. Have a great mylot experience ahead!
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
About being business going bad, I believe fingers will be pointing at the Wests for the cause of it. However, we can see that instead of making amends and upkeep their reputation and standards, they are making matters worse. The food label system has by far the benchmark of reliability and high standards but I think you will agree with me that the legislators are being lazy and taking things for granted lately. Lessons from the past Mad Cow's Disease, Salmonella and E coli have not yet gotten into them and it is sad to wonder what will eventually. I am keeping my fingers crossed on these undeclared, unaudited and unknown horse meats as far as epidemic is concern. Read: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9874398/Horse-meat-in-school-dinners.html
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@marguicha (223795)
• Chile
16 Feb 13
In my country there are special butcher shops who sell horse meat. Some people eat it because it is cheaper and people say it is not bad at all. But there are health control for that meat as they have it for veal. bWe don`t have venison here so I don`t know about venison. But wild animals are more dangerous than domestic animals.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
Having eaten horse meat myself, I really do not have anything against it. But, this latest discovery is both disturbing and unacceptable when the meat is being falsely added and labeled as other meat. My concern is that the horses and the meat are unaudited, unchecked and uncertified to be edible. The fact that these fowls and meats could carry potential deadly diseases should be considered and the processed beef producers should be fully aware than to actually go along with these lunatic immoral suppliers. I am really worried that these meats are "bad" and the ramifications that will follow. Until then, I believe we should stay away from beef for the time being. Read: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9874398/Horse-meat-in-school-dinners.html
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@jdawg011 (498)
• Canada
15 Feb 13
I suppose that's how they sell McDonalds so cheap and such. Really a shame, although horse meat isn't unhealthy, it is still bad that they lie directly to their customers about what they're really eating. I guess vegetarians/vegans get the last laugh when it comes to food scandals, since they avoid most of it.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Feb 13
I am sorry but I don't find McDonald's cheap at least not in China. Anyway, I don't find horse meat to be cheap being that it is rarely being breed for meat and the cost of rearing them is not cheap either. My concern is why the sudden increase of these meats are being passed off as beef. There are a lot of questions in my mind and I am sure the people in countries affected will have much more. I hope that there will not be any disease outbreak with these meats and it will be major catastrophe if it does happen.
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