Are we safe?
By dollar3235
@dollar3235 (2062)
India
February 16, 2013 11:15am CST
This question came to my mind when I heard what happened in Russia. The meteor shower has injured more than 100 people in Russia, thank god, it hasn't happened in India or China otherwise, the casualty would have been much much higher.
Now that it has happened, the question that I've is, what have our scientists done to prevent it?
Good that they knew something like this would happen but what's the benefit of that if they can't protect people here. I read that there was an explosion on some mountain about which no body had a clue.
Does this indicates the level of our science and the type of civilization we are? Are we so primitive that we can protect ourselves from a few stones falling from sky?
Please share your views.
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9 responses
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
19 Feb 13
As far as I know, they are aware of the meteors and they supposedly have a plan of sorts. Not to blow them up as much as to be able to move them off course from the earth. But whatever they do I am sure we will not know until the last minute.
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Feb 13
That is what even I thought before this incident but now after coming to know that approx 1000 people are injured in Russia and there was not even a warning, I feel, there is a misunderstanding..we are still in semi-stone age. The only difference is in stone age, such meteors wouldn't have affected humans because that time they were less in number and they used to live in caves and now we live in houses and that's why we're affected.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
21 Feb 13
I think it was the same thing back in the stone age. The difference is now we know about them and understand the devastation they can cause on earth. It is what it is. Remember, meteors have been around longer then we have. And if this is going to happen, we are limited in what we can do to avoid them.
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
22 Feb 13
We do have an options available to avoid such issues but we are not focused and willing to handle such situations. Unfortunately, we've left ourselves on luck.
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
What happened to Russian Meteor is an example event to compare Science and Holy Bible.
Holy Bible cannot predict an incoming Asteroid and incoming Meteor, and also Comet.
Whereas…
Science Astronomers Meteorologist will only announce to public those sure flyby calculated threats that misses, and they keep silent to those alien stones that will surely collided I think for one reason…
And that is to prevent Mass Panic.
It is impossible for them not to detect those Meteor destined to Russia as meteors are completely telegraphic, to take a note that even a small meteor shower show even during December 13-14, 2012 here in the Philippines they also detect it, and why not regarding big meteor what happened to Russia?
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
17 Feb 13
Hi Mantis,
How are you?
I'm not concerned about the fact whether they are able to track such stones or not, I'm concerned about the fact that whether they are able to protect us or not. What's the point of having so much money spent on hubble and other things when we can't save ourselves from small stones.
Do you really think it would have created mass panic if they had have announced that there will be a small meteor shower?
At least they could have tried to evacuate that area, it would have been great to save thousands of people rather than letting them suffer like this. It's not the right attitude.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
I think they can’t protect us, current science technologies has no ability to intercept Asteroids, Comets, and Meteors, even prayers can’t divert the collision course to earth’s crust.
What happened to Russia Meteor incident only proves that even Moon is never set footed by man.
Spending millions of dollars for hubble and kepler space telescopes is just a viewing telescope, we are currently not advance.
40 years from now maybe they have the technology on how to send a droid there on alien stone and instead of intercepting it by force, they will do it by neutralizing the speed of the meteor to slow down till absolutely zero acceleration and that is the time to pull the asteroid to safely land on our moon…
Or let that asteroid stays stationary there for future use, and in time if there is another asteroid, comet or meteor incoming from a different direction they will use it…
What will happen is a previously captured asteroid to send and set as a shield to block new visiting comet with ambition to land on earth with the help of a pushing-pulling remote control droid.
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
Not a referral link but here is the SMALL meteor shower in the Philippines December 13, 2012 and they detect it:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/323067/meteor-showers-peak-on-thursday-and-friday-pagasa
but to BIG meteor will surely land on Russia can't?
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
Hello there dollar, i am not sure about this, I think they should have at least a warning, or they must have seen this at least a couple of times? or maybe it was something that came to us by surprise because it remained hidden, unseen until it was there already! could be true about what you said that we must have been technologically incapacitated when it comes to the heavenly bodies, to whatever is outside the scope of our world...?
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Feb 13
Hi chiyosan,
I was taught in schools that we have telescopes that can show you things outside this solar system and now a days, so many amateurs have got telescopes and they are also watching these skies, then how come we completely missed this one? Something that injured 1000 people?
Tracking a few stones approaching our planet and informing people for that is not big deal, especially in 21st century, this is what my mindset was before this incident but now it has changed.
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
16 Feb 13
I had the same questions.
Why wasn't there some kind of warning.
If I remember this right, the size of the meteor plus the materials they were made up from made them undetected. Sample of the meteors were taken so their equipment could be updated (not sure saying this right) to detect these kind of materials.
I really wish could find that article again. Read it online and now can't find it.
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@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
16 Feb 13
found it
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/15/russian-meteorite-why-didnt-scientists-see-it-coming/
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@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
16 Feb 13
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/15/russian-meteorite-why-didnt-scientists-see-it-coming/
foundit
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
16 Feb 13
Thanks for sharing the URL, it's really an alarming incident for us. When our scientists can't track a flying stone, how do we assume that they are really capable of saving lives on earth from external threat.
A century back we were in the hands of god and this incident confirms that still we are.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
There really is no safe place on earth. And we can only pray that we are spared from all the catastrophes that happen.
If scientists have known anything how to prevent it, they have done it years back. But I guess, it is really hard to divert the direction of the meteor once it started falling towards the earth.
Maybe in the next hundred years, when everything else have turned Space-like, then maybe thay could invent a force shield that would envelope the whole world and let the meteors just bounce back towards space.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
Well, maybe it is nit that easy to mak we an apparatus thay could exactly confirm the trajectory of the meteors. The atmosoheric pressure, size and speed are all factors that need to be considered.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
17 Feb 13
Hi Jenny1015,
If they could not divert it, at least they could have given a warning to people in Russia about this, that would have certainly protected so many people from getting injured. This incident clearly shows that these guys didn't even notice the path of this meteor.
This just shows the dumbness of our so called advanced science, what's the use of hell lot of theories in Physics when we can't even notice when a stone is approaching us?
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Feb 13
In the future is not a force field idea but a drone that capable of slowing down
(Like a very small pilot boat capable of pulling a large size Aircraft Carrier Ship)
even a ten kilometer wide asteroid while in a completely zero state speed, now it’s the time that the man-made droid will pull that giant asteroid to place near our moon and by way of chopping it to pieces and steal all important parts to make building of domes for our astronauts to temporary stay safe in Moon Stations…. maybe in year 4000 where human technologies are very awesome and to consider advance.
Asteroids that is rich in iron, gold, or other precious natural resources to think about.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Feb 13
If this is how we are supposed to react to this kind of incidents, then in that case, we should not invest any money in science, rather, we should make sure that all the scientists go to their religious temples/mosques/churches etc and pray their for our civilization, rather than wasting time in labs on god know what.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
19 Feb 13
To be more accurate, this is not a disaster with a few stones falling from sky, it is a twenty ton asteroid closer fly by our earth in a near collision path in this century, China and India are just lucky this time only few break away pieces of this gigantic asteroid managed to fall on Russia vast land instead of their land. The next close encounter with asteroid may not be that fortunate for our earth, we may have the chance to witness the power of asteroid's destruction first hand when the time come, unless with the use of combine missile fire power of some of these superpowers, only then can the earth get to avoid a large decimation of earth population. Yes the scientists can do somethings about it, but they must be ready and start from today t come out with a solution with financial assistance from various government and not wait for the final moment to arrive. To counter such a gigantic threat with a viable project, plenty of financial aid from government is critical and most helpful.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
19 Feb 13
It is not the fault of NASA and Scientists, the agency and its scientists are not equate with the necessary counter measure to steer asteroid away from hitting earth in this near head on collision course. The agency is only empowered to study and research on small part of our universe planetary objects, not funded with plenty of $$$ from various world government to come out with a project to be ready for such a gigantic threat from outer space like asteroid, comet or solar's corona mass ejection. Rather than blaming NASA or its scientists, it is actually the fault of various world governments that refuse to fund and authorize such a counter measure contingency project against external threat, they are more eager to spend money in building war machines to kill large population on earth internally than dealing with external threat, that shame is belong to them not the scientist or NASA, my friend!
@lampar (7584)
• United States
22 Feb 13
The viable option i think will work to mitigate the immediate threat of a deadly impact on earth by a extremely large asteroid or meteorite that is coming head-on collision course is to have the ability to zap it or break it into smaller pieces outside our atmosphere before its arrival, in this way, making it less deadly in term of size and lessen its impact force. By to have such type of space weapon in orbit ready for the immediate external threat, world government need to fund such a project with $$$, not building more nuclear bombs and weapons to kill foreigners. Until those greedy fools begin to be able to see this danger from outer space, they will stop at nothing to build more weapon of war and nuclear bombs with the hope of annihilate large population of earth inhabitants before the asteroid or meteorite do, that is for sure. It is no doubt one day the earth will face a deadly impact with a huge external object when all the condition are right, you can bet on that.
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Feb 13
Hi lampar,
I agree with you on this, we are really fortunate this time, I read somewhere that in Russia it had hit the ground at a place very near to the plutonium storage, now what if it would have hit that storage.
This time we were extremely lucky, all those things that people would have imagined for 21st Dec 2012, could be the fact by now had it hit some panic areas on earth.
It's not something that we couldn't imagine, they have Hollywood movies on this subject and in reality, we don't even have a clue of what to do when a stone approaches our home?
It's a shame on scientists and NASA if they can't even protect earth from showering stones.
@Professor2010 (20162)
• India
20 Feb 13
First of all, may I know your name?
We are not at all safe on this planet, what warning our labs will give, i have visited many research labs, most working there are just relaxing and reading magazines like Filmfare not scientific journals.
When our weather bureau says it will be rainy, be sure it will be the most dry day, am I right.
@xanderkage (100)
• India
17 Feb 13
inspite of all the progress we have had in the field of science there are certain things that are beyond the reach of modern day science,every time we humans start boasting about our technological advances nature steps in & shows that it has several other secrets hidden in it's closet that we have never even imagined.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
17 Feb 13
Hi xanderkage,
Welcome to myLot!
Had it been some really complex phenomena, I wouldn't have this kind of question in my mind. I know there could be so many possibilities where our civilization can be in danger, however, this was a very basic incident which could have been handled easily. Generally, we blame the politicians that they don't work properly and hinder the growth of the country but here I see even scientists are just wasting our money and their own time.