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That sounds even more creepy. I know some creepy stories like that that really happened. An older woman was having relations with my friend's son (she was a teacher's aid) and was trying to get him put into foster care so she could "foster" him.

Yeah it is. The more we think about it and talk about things the more creeped out we are getting. But see, there are people like that in this world and I think he is one of them... Scary. Guess he is really desperate to have a child-ANY child, which is really scary to us!

Well we have a feeling jealousy had a lot to do with it. He is single, older and he cannot have kids, never could. My husband has everything he wants and cannot have... He always told our youngest that someday he would adopt her, he said it like he was joking so that is how we took it. In some sick way, I think he really thought if our kids got taken from us maybe he would have the chance to actually adopt her. I don't know but now it has us thinking... We will never trust anyone ever again.

We think he is more jealous of us than we thought... My husband has a wife and kids-two things this man does not have and he cannot have kids at all. I personally think he is trying to get my husband locked up so he can try getting me and my kids-NOT going to happen ever! But I think in his own twisted head that is what he is trying to do. He is a sick person we are finding out... He will never be allowed near our property ever again. But I think he already knows that without us even having to say it. He knows we know now... People are really unbelievable. They really are. We have to be so careful of who we trust and allow into our lives. I hope if anyone here is about to trust someone that they read this first and think twice about it.

I really hope he gets what is coming to him. We have had a roller coaster of a life together and this was one of the worst things to happen! I am so upset right now and to know that it is not over yet makes me more sick to my stomach. Another one will be out on Monday, the thought turns my stomach completely. I hate these people! They don't bother the parents that REALLY abuse their children but they bother and harrass GOOD parents like us! It ticks me off so much. My husband is absolutely right, trusting no one is a good plan...

You know, we do think it is jealousy. He is very jealous that my husband and I are together since he is alone and he cannot have kids ever, so he is jealous of our family I would say most definitely. We just did not realize how jealous apparently... Yes it could definitely cost us everything we are working towards because of this idiot making false accusations! If we could afford a lawyer and we had absolute proof it was him we would look into that but DSS won't tell us who did it. We just know by some things that were said...

the accusation stays on your record for 7 years even if you are found innocent. It just shows that you were accused and that it was "unfounded". you will have a possible problem in getting business from those that don't know you well. I also don't believe that jealousy is his problem. Honestly, I think that he is guilty and trying to deflect his guilt onto you guys.

Some people just let their problems take over and consume not just themselves, but others. If the two of you feel certain that you can identify your accuser by specific phrases or incidents, I would think you have a civil suit, especially if the accusations cause you or your husband professional or financial damage. Why can he not have kids ever? Was he neutered or something?

They really need to start making some changes about that. It is so not right that charges can't be pressed for false statements. I think if it sounds outrageous or anything like that then they need to investigate more into the person who made the claim. Well at least there is one thing Child Services are on top of their job that's for sure. But its sad that innocent people get accused all the time, while guilty people get away with things so easily.

Yeah, I will never let people come into our home again if I have the smallest idea that they are jealous or are trouble makers. Oh, we are DONE with the friendship! My husband tried to get him over here today to try to get him to admit it-guess what? He would NOT come, which also shows us how guilty he is! He cannot be charged because DSS will not tell us that information of who called it in. We just know because of the things that were said, it was him most definitely. I don't think there can be charges placed when they won't tell us who it was that called but I will look into it...

If it was the cops, the guy could get charged with making a false report. If it is child services, then no. I wish they could or would but no. Child services uses little to no common sense sometimes in my opinion. They don't care if the call is off the wall even (had one come to my house because someone thought my husband was a satanist) and even if he was (he's not) there is still freedom to practice your religion whatever that might be.

I am so sorry it happened to you too! =( It is the worst feeling ever as you know as well. I am so worried since another one is coming out Monday. Not that we are doing anything wrong because we are not but I just don't know if they will take them for something stupid, as you stated like dishes in the sink or dirty laundry! With kids in the house, WHO DOESN'T have some dirty dishes in the sink sometimes or laundry to do?!? How STUPID!! It means we are GOOD parents for taking care of our children and doing the chores when the kids are busy playing or occupied! We will have a tape recorder, thanks to you on Monday. We didn't yesterday because we didn't know but now that we do we will DEFINITELY be recording EVERYTHING that is said! ALL children get bruises from playing, my daughter is the most clumsy child I have ever seen in my life, she literally trips over her own feet and sometimes gets a bruise from it. How ridiculous! I cannot stand these social workers, they should spend their time worrying about kids that are REALLY being abused with plenty of signs and leave the rest of us alone!!! This whole thing has stressed me out so bad I am not eating and cannot sleep. Last night I got a whole 3 hours of sleep and I am still going, thanks to my adrenaline. It is the most nerve wracking thing ever! I really hope they do not take our children for a stupid thing... That is what worries me, dishes or laundry-WOW!

I know, they go after the GOOD parents which makes absolutely NO sense at all! And it angers me to no end! I understand what your saying because the other day at my niece's preschool there was a little boy STANDING in the front seat of his mother's van, at the preschool with people all around and NO one calls on these kind of people! The boy was no older than FIVE years old!! He belongs in the BACK SEAT in a booster seat, not standing in the front seat while she was pulling out of the parking lot! This kind of crap blows my mind. Why were they not called on this mother? I would NEVER allow my kids to do that, ever! It makes no sense to me...their called on people who have dishes in their sink or laundry, I will never understand it. I don't know how social workers sleep at night. I could not do it. Not hurting innocent people every single day...Just could not do that to people. The workers that came here DID ask me about if we were on public assistance and why I am choosing to Home School my kids?!? I did not think they needed to know those things. It's none of their business why I CHOSE to homeschool MY children...I know they thought it was because we are hiding something, but I told them I like the one on one teaching attention my children get from homeschool, I like that they are not being bullied and their not learning bad behaviors from other children. That was honest. I will try to remember not to get loud with these people... Aida it is really hard though to do that because I am SO angry about this whole thing!

It is and they will purposefully make you mad to try and pin something on you. I don't understand it either. A friend of mine who moved back to Ohio for work wants them to go investigate her sister. Her sister, brother in law, and their kids all sleep in a small dirty one bedroom apartment. The kids haven't seen a doctor in years. The parents will still mess around even though the kids are there and they all sleep in the same bed. Her mother told her if her or any of her friends call on her sister, she was going to disown my friend and kick her out the house. Now she is desperately saving as much as she can (her mother charges her rent plus she has her medical insurance and such) so she can move out of there. Standing in the front seat? What the heck was wrong with that mother? I make sure my kids are buckled in before the car starts moving and never in the front seat. I truly wish they would go after truly neglectful abusive parents but they feel it is too dangerous for them. They ask about public assistance because they assume those people don't have what they consider enough to take care of the kids. One former worker admitted to searching for people on assistance and hanging out at these offices to pin these parents. They don't need to know why you are homeschooling your kids but sadly they will try and think you are hiding something and that is why. You have a valid reason for homeschooling your kids and with the cyber schools becoming bigger all around it shouldn't be that much of an issue or an issue at all but of course most workers have no common sense. Do your best to not get mad at them. It is very hard not especially when you can sense they have already made up their minds about you and more. I hope you get a decent worker but those are few and far between. I had posted a while back about how my neighbor called on me because my child's bedtime is 7pm. I am happy I got a decent worker that time. One piece of advice, once you get them out of your life and they close the case. Make sure to get the paperwork documenting it is closed and put it up somewhere safe, if some idiot calls again (mind you the people who call don't even ever have to be in your house for them to investigate) but if someone calls again and they come out. Don't let them into your house and ask them if they have a warrant to come in. It sounds bad but remind them that they are not cops, so if someone truly felt there was abuse they would make a police report and an officer of the law would come out. They are just civilians and without proper paperwork they can't come in if they don't have an open case. Unfortunately letting them in once allows them to open a case but they can't just reopen it once it is closer. Something to think about after this fiasco is all done.

What disturbs me is someone lying about me and my husband!!! We KNOW it is HIM because of the things they said he told them. He was the only one around us during that time period and there were certain things that were said that only he would say. No one else was in our house! So, don't tell me not to accuse him when we KNOW for a FACT it WAS him who did it!! And don't act like he should not be blamed for his actions...

Yes it is stressful and another social worker will be here on Monday so it is not even over quite yet. I am so stressed out about this. I cannot believe someone could be THAT jealous or stupid to think he would get our children!

I'm just really worried someone is going to lose their temper and that won't look good at all. That makes me nervous.

Okay, there are a few things with this guy... He cannot ever have kids, never could. He was always telling our youngest he would adopt her someday. We thought he was joking so we never thought anything of it. He was also mad that my husband never gave him money when we got his settlement, just found that out recently as well. I don't think anyone else called because the things that were said, the person HAD to be inside of our house to know some things... Like one thing he said was our daughter fell asleep on the floor because she doesn't have a bed-NOT true, she DOES have a bed BUT she did fall asleep on the floor because she was watching cartoons and we moved her into her bed before we went to bed. Then another thing he said was, my husband dips and leaves his spit cups laying around where the kids can get them. NOT true-the kids cannot reach them but my husband throws them out after using them a time or two so he doesn't waste cups. He was the ONLY one in our house, only one besides my sister who would NOT have done that to us. But it had to be him because he was here when our daughter fell asleep that night on the floor in front of the TV. No one else called, not with the things that were said. There is no way possible... He is a child molester, which we only found out after he called on us...We thought maybe he was guilty since he was accusing other people and we were right. We should have looked him up BEFORE he came into our house, lesson learned with that one. I know they have to check all reports but that is sad to me that they are wasting time at my house when they could REALLY be helping children that are in trouble!! There should be a better way of going about these things...

I agree. But you know they sometimes make the husband leave or take the kids just on a report. Read about my former pastor. They had only a lie from a brat nephew and because it was a pastor they made an example of him. It cost them a lot. They had to move. They now are better than before with their own home but it was a terrible couple of years.

I don't blame you a bit. It is sad that it has to be that way but now days you just know what people are really up to. Jealousy is such a horrible thing that will eat a person up if they don't get over it. Glad to hear Danny is behind bars and for a long time. That guy seemed scarey. The DSS would really have to have some good evidence when they come into your home to warrant taking your children. I do understand how that would scare you though. And they see and understand alot more than you think.

Yeah, we help a lot of people. My husband is so social and outgoing that he meets new people all the time. He is so nice and helpful that people think they can do anything to us... That is why we are always having problems because we do invite people into our lives when we shouldn't. No more though. We are done helping people, regardless. And we are no longer trusting anyone. Anyway, the guy IS jealous of my husband. We have 3 beautiful children-he has none and cannot have any. We have each other-he has no one except an ex wife that constantly cheated on him. We have a house-he lives in a basement in someone else's house. So, yes he is very jealous of what we have... He was telling our youngest one all the time that someday he was going to adopt her. He said it in a joking manner so that is how we took it. Too bad now, I don't think he was joking at all. I think he thought if we got them taken away from us that he would have a chance of adopting them...Sick but I truly believe that is what he thought... Nothing else has happened with the crazy guy Danny. He is locked away for a long time-he now has murder on him too we just found out recently. We will not be having trouble with him anymore thank God! Yeah I have plenty of good references for my Childcare. And the workers even said last night, wow this mother must really trust you! I said yes she does, that is why she leaves her boys overnight with me every weekend!! I hope it all just goes away without any issues. I won't want to live without my children...

Seeing they didn't take the kids immediately and left them alone over the weekend until Monday, I think everything will be ok. I'm not familiar with this stuff at all. Your story is so sad. They go from one extreme to the other, and this is where most problems start. There never seems to be a happy medium and common sense gets thrown out the window. I hope LMB and the family get through this with no other problems involved. It just still seems odd to me that this guy did this because he was jealous. Why bring attention to himself that way....just strange.

"If a neighbor knew or suspected the man was a threat a neighbor could have called the state.".........that's what I told her also. The stalker and the guy she's talking about are 2 different people. The stalker is in jail right now from what I understand and they had all sorts of problems with him, and he is nasty, and his son. But I also thought that maybe he did it too, and he could have done it from jail just to get even. The other guy she's talking about in her discussion is someone else, and yes, he is a known child molester, which they JUST found out since this happened. That's why I thought possibly a neighbor too who already knew about him. So of course, this looks bad all the way around to people just watching. I'm still waiting to hear if he took any pictures of the kids...you know. And he may have even took pictures of them outside without LMB even knowing.....creepy, just so da*n creepy.

It's vicious. Who would be so vicious. Who would have something to gain the most from reporting and causing trouble? This is my question. The stalker? What is his motivation and what does he have to gain? I would be looking at him too as a suspect but I wouldn't rule out someone else that might have something to gain. Is the suspect a known child molester? If a neighbor knew or suspected the man was a threat a neighbor could have called the state.

Thanks, me too. It is very upsetting and scary. You never know with people. They don't tell you when you meet them-hey one day I will call Child Protective Services on you with false accusations. So it's hard to know people... We will no longer allow anyone in our house unless they are family.

Still go to be careful with family not all family members should be trusted. I don't trust several family members. It's much wiser to go along with just family. I've thought of calling cps on someone in my family but I haven't because other family is around to watch out and help with my nephew for his protection and to make sure that this person doesn't take away my nephew and run.

Yeah unfortunately, it is my life right now! =( People do have some serious issues!

Oh I know. He really does have more issues than we realized! =(

I meant the other guy has issues :)))

I too am a firm believer in karma, I've had to learn the hard way, it's the only comforter I have had in the past when people have abused me etc, this nasty piece of work will get his come uppance, maybe not today, but someday it will get him off-guard, I just think it's a pity that we are not there to see them get exactly what they deserve.

He was really jealous of our family...more so than we realized apparently. He cannot have kids and he has no spouse or girlfriend. We knew he was jealous but we did not know how much! I am sure karma will get him, one day...

wow, very sad. So sorry dear. I hope he gets a pay back someday.

What a malcontent! That's going to come around and bite him. I'm a firm believer in reaping what you sow.

Someone my husband knew recommended Tony to fix a vehicle we had at the time. My husband was talking to him, and he fixed the car. After that they would and hang out off and on. We have known him for over a year which is why I am so shocked I guess... He doesn't drink, he is on pain medicine. He has no house, no kids and no wife. He is extremely jealous of what we have. And we also found out through someone else he is mad because we didn't give him any of my husband's settlement money! I WISH we could press charges on him SO bad!! It is not fair that people can just say such false things and nothing can happen to them!

Thanks, it is the worst thing ever! We don't really know why he called either. We do know he is jealous of us and our family. We also just found out he was angry because we didn't give him money when my husband got his settlement. We just heard about that one... He won't admit that he called and DSS cannot tell us who it was that called so we have no proof. He cannot get in trouble for lying about us either, which to me is not fair at all. Thank you, we really try to be good people and help everyone out so much. Sometimes it's not a good thing to help certain people... I love kids and my husband and I would not hurt any child ever! That is why we are so angry because the things he said were NOT true at all. We tried to confront him but he denied it and told us to leave in God's hands! I cannot even believe he had the nerve to say anything about God after what he did to us!!

Yeah it has been awful. I am so tired because I cannot sleep and I have not eaten much since last night. I am too stressed out because of this mess. I really hope they see this is all crazy and a bunch of lies! I just hope they see we are good parents and we love our kids more than anything in this world. I cannot believe someone is that jealous to do this to us! It is not our fault he cannot have kids and its not our fault that he never found someone to make him happy! It is so wrong that he did this to us!! Ugh, I just hope this will all be over soon!

Most of them are really bad people, I have no idea how the heck they sleep at night doing what they do!! Harrassing good parents to me is horrible! I would not have talked with them either unless they came to the door and knocked on it like NORMAL people. Oh wait-MOST of them are NOT normal at all that's right! Yeah it is really scary! I am glad you had one good social worker, I have never seen a good one yet. I feel like most of them are out to steal our kids away from us! Yes because we are poor too they think we are bad parents, which really ticks me off. Just because we are poor does not mean we cannot take care of our children! This person said about the abuse, he said my youngest daughter was the only child who does not have a bed (My daughters share a room and they have bunk beds!!), which we showed them that night that both the girls have beds in their room. We showed them both the kids rooms and they have a good sized playroom filled with toys which we showed them as well! Yes we will definitely be recording the entire time they are here! They will NOT twist our words around... We will have proof of everything that is said tomorrow. Gosh I am nervous. Your probably right, they want "normal" children in the system, rather than kids with behavior issues. I think it is terrible what they do. Also, I don't know how true it is but I read an article where it said Social Workers get some kind of BONUS for the kids they bring into the system!! I hope everything is okay too. I am worried, I know we are good parents but I don't know what they will try to do.

Yeah, you never really know a person like you think you do.

Yes, there are mean people like him in the world, and I for one,hope that he will get what he deserves! In this case let the saying"what goes around ,comes around", be true.

He is a very mean liar that is for sure. He said things for us to know it was him who called on us. He said things that only he was here to see, like when our daughter fell asleep on the floor while watching cartoons-she does that sometimes and then we put her too bed before we go lay down... It's not a big deal. He was the one here for that though, only him. There were other things too he said, so we know it was him. It is unfair that innocent people have to go through this whenever someone is upset with them...