Is it fitting to call yourself "doctor" if you're a Ph.D. in public?
By laydee
@laydee (12798)
Philippines
February 28, 2013 3:06am CST
Don't get me wrong, it's very difficult to achieve the Ph.D. distinction. However, what comes to mind is the fact that it's miseading at time because generally people would call physicians "doctor".
When should Academe people indicate Dr. on their names?
7 responses
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
28 Feb 13
I worked in a hospital before (in the admin) and there were Ph.D members of the business group and they were also called doctors. I was even confused at a time that he was being called a doctor but he is not a medical doctor.
Many 'real' doctors in the hospital somehow is feeling adamant to it, you would see eyebrows raised and faces confused as to why they would want themselves called doctors if they weren't even treating anyone. I think it offends the real medical doctors to an extent.
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@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
1 Mar 13
I don't why people with Ph.D. holders should be resented. They are all professionals, worked hard for their degree and achieve it in their respective fields. It's not that a person having a Ph.D. in business or any field has less quality work or responsibilities compared to people who have M.D.s. Is a judge with a PhD in law lower compared to a M.D.? The term is not exclusive to the medical industry. Never has been.
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@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
2 Mar 13
I don't really know the true feelings, but it has been going in on around in the hospital where i worked before. i did not get the chance though to ask a doctor close to me because i think i might offend anyone. :D
I never bothered to study masters degree after i graduated from my bachelors and yes i see how hard it is to attain to a PHD.
i do commend them for their patience and for the persistence to further and specialize in a field of their interest.
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
30 Mar 13
I think it is really confusing. Indeed those with the Ph.D. Degree worked hard for it, but they should have another type name other than "doctor" perhaps "Professor" is most fitting, don't you think?
Thanks for the responses guys, have a great mylot experience ahead!
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
1 Mar 13
They earned the degree, they should use it. Usually, people call Ph.D. degree holders as "Doctor". It''s hardly misleading since they earned the degree even if it's not a M.D. After all,the title can be a good way to explain to people that not all doctorate degree are related to medicine. Usually, when others are asking, holders will complete the title Ph.D or Ph.D. in the course they taken to ease the confusion. Knew two women who are both doctor - PH.D.aand M.D. and they call each other - 'doktora'.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
30 Mar 13
There's no question that they deserve to be called so, however, what if they come into a situation when a person needs medical attention and since she called herself doctor she's expected to do something about it? It's awkward to be explaining then that she's in the Academe, right?
As I said in the above comments, perhaps it's best if Academic Doctors should called themselves "Professors" instead.
Thanks for the response, have a great mylot experience ahead!
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
1 Apr 13
Actually, I never heard ti was awkward.or maybe I know too much people in the academe with doctorate degrees.
However, laydee, it's not just the professors who had this title. As I mentioned before, lawyers, engineering and other professionals also have their title. It's just the people from the academe who use it most since prestige is sortieing that is very big in that area. Trust me, a ph.D. will give you a ton of respect and deferance. And I don't blame them since it is hard to earn a postgraduate degree.
In addition, there is already a hierarchy of professors in the academe (i"m not sure it it varies from school to school). Having a doctorate, of course, can catapult anyone to the higher levels quick.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
28 Feb 13
'Doctor' is the proper form of address when introducing someone who holds a PhD (as a speaker, for example) within the academic community or when it is quite clear that he is a Doctor of Philosophy and not a medical Doctor.
It is usually unnecessary and undesirable to address someone who has a PhD, or to refer to them, as 'Doctor' in the course of general conversation. Most PhDs prefer to be addressed as 'Mr/Ms/Miss/Mrs' and would only include their qualifications in the name under a signature to a letter or other places where the qualification is relevant.
The correct full style would be:
Written (in a letterhead or, possibly, as the adressee of a letter):
"John Williams, PhD"
Personal Signature:
"John Williams" or "J. Williams"
When spoken to formally in public:
"Mr Williams" (and "sir" subsequently)
When referred to or introduced to a non-academic audience (depending on the level of formality):
"Mr [John] Williams", "John Williams" or even "John"
In an article quoting or referring to him as an author, when it is clear that the subject is not medical:
Initially as "John Williams, PhD" OR "Dr. John Williams" (never "Dr. John Williams, PhD"!) and subsequently as "Williams" or "Dr. Williams".
Any holder of a PhD who styles himself and insists that he be addressed as "Doctor" at all times is usually considered to be something of a pompous a$$ and not really deserving of the qualification!
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
28 Feb 13
There are a number of ways in which one might address a letter to someone with a PhD.
If the letter is formal and connected with his academic status (for example a letter from his University or College), it might be addressed as:
"Dr John Williams" or "John Williams, PhD"
In normal circumstances and unconnected with academic business (for example, from the Tax office or from a friend &c):
"Mr. J[ohn] Williams" or "John Williams".
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
30 Mar 13
Exactly my point. I came across this problem when one of my Academic professors got angry at our class when we called him Mr. or Sir, it was generally okay because we were in school. But it was now a big deal when even outside of school he signs his letters and addresses himself "doctor".
It's really awkward. hehee..
Thanks for the in-depth explanation. Have a great mylot experience ahead!
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
28 Feb 13
"Doctor" is an academic term. It is to teach.
It's not misleading. It's just that a medical doctor's doctorate is in medical field, whereas another doctor's might be in a social or another scientific field.
Because we assume "doctor" means an M.D. is our issue, not a doctor's.
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@cowboyofhell (3063)
• Philippines
28 Feb 13
I guess it isn't misleading to say you're a Ph.D. as long as you add which field you excel in. For example, doctor of philosophy in electronic arts.
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@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
28 Feb 13
It is more appropriate to call yourself doctor when you have a Ph.D. than when you are a physician because the origin of the term had nothing to do with being a physician. A doctor was an authority like St. John Chrysostom was inside the church.
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