WHAT NEXT...Now our Dairy Products????
By pergammano
@pergammano (7682)
Canada
March 4, 2013 7:07am CST
With all of our food controversy lately...is this NOT the epitome of fraud???
The U.S. Dairy Industry has petitioned the F.D.A to put Aspartame in Milk products...and NOT label it as such....NOT TELL YOU! No mention of the artificial sweetener will be on your Chocolate Milk, flavoured milks, yogurts, creams..etc.
Many people have a intolerance to this Chemical...and some CHILDREN, those born with PKU (Phnylketonuria)..a baby born with inability to break down amino acids..this is a HUGE danger to!
Here is a reference; www.Care2.com (and the in search bar type: Aspartame in Dairy Milk.)
The article tells you, the reason for the application is to reduce childhood obesity...HOGWASH, just load them up with chemicals.
If this isn't a full-blown case for ACCURACY and TRUTH in labelling..I don't know what is????? What a farce...your take?
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
4 Mar 13
I know how stronly u must feel about this for u to write a discussion. I feel the same way. Looks like they are just asking for bad trouble to do this. take care. love ya!
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
Good morning, dear friend! In the light of how things are going so wrong in the Food Industry, I really think it is important that we are AWARE of what we are consuming. It bothers me greatly, to think that "your grandbabies" may be consuming chemicals...other than by choice! I am of the opinion that we should still have the right to CHOOSE, but we can't if the label isn't honest! ANd it seems to be common these days...remember the pink slime controversy..the horse meat problem now existing...! JUST give me the TRUTH, and let me decide!
I am also really concerned about Aspartame..it is derived from Aspartic Acid, and it has many, many health side effects in many people!
Hope you and family are "over the top healthy and happy! HUGZ and LUV!
@celticeagle (167043)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Mar 13
That is fraudulent! All we have is the label with ingredients. If that is a lie then what do we have then? Nothing to go by. Huge danger of being lied to too. We need to know what is being put in our food!!
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
I am horrendously mad...that Dairy will be messed with...BUT YOUR POINT is so bang on....LABEL it, so I know what chemicals I am ingesting!
Some people here have missed the point...a lot of other things are artificially sweetened...but their label STATES so! This application is so that they do NOT have to label that it is aspartame!
I know for example; I have a terrible time with MSG..now I can look at the labels and see whether it is included or not...and there has been so many chemicals intoduced into our food lately, we should have the right to avoid them if we want/need to! Look at our staple..White Bread, two bad cancer chemicals used in the processsing of the flour....Potassium Bromate, and Benzoyl Peroxide...both not included in the labels. I think California, is your only State that has banned these products...altho the EU, China and Canada has!
Who can we rely on...why have the FDA in place?? Wasted money..I think we would be better off with a "consumer watchdog!"
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
They should have to change the LABEL of the product..if it contains a non-nutritive sweetener. Aspartame should be listed as the non-caloric sweetener, as it is most widely used..and the most reacted too!
I get a little head shy, when I know Monsato owns the company!
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@celticeagle (167043)
• Boise, Idaho
5 Mar 13
I think that this falls on the FDA. If they aren't doing what is right in this instence it makes me wonder what other ones they have not done things right with? It is very alarming. I wrote an article on sweetners and aspartame is rather mysterious. Must be cheap too.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
26 Mar 13
Actually, DD (darling daughter) and I caught up by phone today. We both have a lot going on that has been somewhat overwhelming so have not had much time to think. I'm just waiting for my passport to come to me in the mail then I will send it off to her to get my visa. I really must get back into researching the destination so I'm into the spirit more, other wise it will be here before we know it then we will be back home again. Thanks for getting me back on track.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
26 Mar 13
Sadly, that is not the case, my dear friend! Labelling Calorie reduced is good enough....it is not necessary to list that the artificial sweetener will be ASPARTAME...which for many years, was stalled in the FDA, as it couldn't be proved safe to be consumed. Then Monsanto (Big Oil) bought the company...and rammed it right thru. There are many, many folks...highly allergic to this product...as seen in the response below!
Guess you are getting antsy for your trip...my friend?
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
I appreciate your comments, but there seems to be a common practice abounding in "truth in labelling"...IT IS NOT HAPPENING..I have yet to see anyone convicted of this fraud. Just to mention a couple of cases in point..how about Pink Slime/Hamburger...Horsemeat..Groundfish loaded with Mercury, sold as cod, or haddock..!
The list is very long of mis-labelled products you are consuming that are mis-labelled by OMISSION! Thank goodness for the internet..and informative sites!
@topffer (42156)
• France
5 Mar 13
Sweeteners have replaced sugar in many drinks here for several reasons : the price of sugar is rising in Europe -- a few years ago, many factories producing beet sugar had to close, due to production quotas imposed by the EEC which decided also to buy cane sugar to help some foreign countries : these countries have never been able to supply the quantity they promised, and the price of sugar rose by 50% in the past 3 years -- and we have in my country a sin tax on drinks with sugar. But when sugar is not employed, it is mandatory to write the sweetener used on the label. I have read Lamb's comments saying that Aspartame will be on the label, yet I think you have to stay mobilized to be sure that it will be, and a discussion like this one is important to inform people and keep them watchful.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
5 Mar 13
I cannot say if it is a conspiracy, but it is bad politics. Quotas have been created in Europe to avoid overproduction and to maintain the same level of price over the years. It is the case for milk, and it was the case for beet root until 2009. It is sad to see high performance factories closing and people unemployed because there is not enough beet root produced. The rise of the price of sugar is completely artificial : if agricultural quotas were at their 2008 level, the price of sugar would fall in a few months. You are right, perga, there is something weird here, which benefits to Monsanto and other dealers of artificial sweeteners.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
4 Mar 13
Yikes!!! I stopped drinking regular milk and started drinking organic almond milk a few months back for a different reason and now I am glad I did. Now I need to convince my family to switch.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
Truly, carmel....what can they mess with next??? Possibly if you read the link...and print it, and have your family read, you can all sign the petition attached to the article...
If this is a need...then the label MUST reflect the contents. Some are highly allergic, and there are serious issues with babies born with PKU!
I am so pi$$ed by this underhanded application...FRAUD..bigtime!
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
4 Mar 13
I can't find the article on the milk on the link, but if you PM me the petition, I will sign it and even pass onto my FB where I have a lot of friends against this kind of control.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
That was my whole point of this discussion, Green Moo! What is the purpose of having a supposed "watchdog" like the FDA in place..if they are going to allow this crap??? Aren't we getting enough untruths..pink slime..and horsemeat! I keep wondering what else I will find...I really had faith they wouldn't mess with dairy...is there NO Santa Claus???
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Mar 13
Hmmm. Well, I'm not one of those people who is beating down doors to label everything. I don't want the costs of doing that passed on to me as a consumer when I don't actually require it - but I do think that labels and nutritional information for EVERYTHING should be available on demand FOR anybody who DOES want it.
The reason I don't really personally care about it is because I'm not one of those consumers who has food allergies or sensitivities to anything like dyes, flavors, or artificial sweeteners. I don't think there's a HUGE population with a sensitivity, I think the people who are sensitive just scream the loudest. Lots of people complain about artificial sweeteners and complain that they are bad for everybody and make everybody sick and kill people. That is not true. If you have a sensitivity, then yes, you should avoid them.... meaning YOU, the person who is sensitive. There is no reason to create paranoia and false upset and make EVERYBODY think they are ALL in danger when that is far from the truth.
I am also sick of people trying to address childhood obesity or obesity in general with attacks on FOOD. If we want to address childhood obesity or the obesity epidemic, let's focus on getting active, NOT FOOD. We need PE required EVERY DAY for all 12 years of mandatory school as well as at least a year or two requirement in college for young adults. Companies and corporations should give breaks or compensation for gym memberships or healthy actions such as proof that you are part of a team (like softball, basketball etc) or that you signed up to run a marathon.
I think it's time to put the responsibility on consumers to find out what is in things and to make personal choices regarding what they purchase, eat, and use. Not to have government with their paws in it or guidelines that interfere with anybody's choices.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
There are many points that I concur with...BUT, the point is, if I am sensitive...to anything (peanuts, shellfish, etc.,) it should be included on the label....AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION for it NOT to be included!
The consumers can/should take responsibility...but they cannot, if products LABELS are not all inclusive of their content!
The government already has it paws in your food...the FDA! And it certainly fell to it's knees..on pink slime!
Just label it properly...and let people take the responsibility!
I concur, inactivity is one of the largest health detriments, today...very seldom in my childhood/formative years..did we see obesity...but then FF was not in existence..Soda was a once a year splurge..and you played outside 'til mealtime!
@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
5 Mar 13
That is the worse news that I have heard in a long time. Aspartame has been a proven neurotoxin and the F.D.A has lots of studies that show it's horrible side effects. When aspartame gets to cold it breaks down into a piperazine that is horrible for you and when it gets to warm it breaks down to formaldehyde. Plenty of evidence has been presented to the FDA showing how bad aspartame is for you.
I think aspartame is another prime example of how we are continuing to try and use chemical means to correct problems that need to be adjusted through behavior and personal choices. Instead of avoiding these things that are highly packed with sugar and bad for us we try to alter it chemically so we can still drink our soda and still eat our junk food. Instead of changing our food chemically to avoid obesity we should just start making the right food choices and get up off the couch and exercise once in a while.
The thing people aren't realizing is that all of the diseases that can affect us are often caused by the choices that we made. I really hope that this plan doesn't go through because it is already hard enough to avoid high fructose corn syrup, sucralose, hydrogenated oils, preservatives, aspartame, bleached flour, and all the other junk that is in our food. We really don't need food to contain it without it being labeled.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
I think we should ban together ... and be Food Cops!
Regarding Aspartame, I find it interesting in all the studies of "aspartic acid" it was stalled before the FDA for approval for human consumption...and then it was bought by Monsanto (BIG,big oil) and I guess the FDA was bought off, and it was immediately approved and became the diet go-to!
I am probably much older than you...but try as I might, I cannot remember ONLY ONE over-weight child, in all my schooling. We ate simple but nutritive..the only time we sat, was in school, homework or mealtime! I don't ever remember having any junk food..home-made cakes or cookies were a treat when company came!
I want the choice...to eat what I want..and to know what I am eating! AND all of the items that you listed are at the top of my DON'T consume list!
A very informed response for which I thank you!
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
4 Mar 13
There is a gray area here that keeps popping up at the different articles I've read on this.
The labeling issue I thought was they didn't not want to label it as 'reduced calorie' BUT, if they don't have to label it as 'reduced calorie' then does that mean they won't list the aspartame? I would think they would have to list all ingredients and then it's up to the consumer to read it or not.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
You definitely have a different understanding of this issue than I have...Aspartame will not be listed as the non-nutritive sweetener (non-caloric)...and the chemical which is "Aspartic Acid" many persons have severe response too!
We had a similar case with MSG (Glumatic) reacting adversely with people?
Monsato owns Aspertame...do they own you, too, Lamby???
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
Aha...in the statement you provided above; "ANY safe sweetener!"
In the Public's eye..the jury is still out on the safety of Aspartame...it was just literally shoved down our throats...when Monsanto rammed this bill thru and manipulated a market..for "calorie reduced!"
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
26 Mar 13
That would be something that would be absolutely horrible to do because I know that there are a lot of people that aren't able to tolerate aspartame. I am one of those people, someone doesn't even have to tell me that something has aspartame in it and I will be asking them about it within about twenty minutes after consuming something because aspartame is something that gives me a severe headache. That would be terrible to people like me to not be able to consume dairy products because of an additive.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
26 Mar 13
Thanks for responding...dorannmwin, You are one of the people, that I was interested in reaching, just to appraise of the fact, this more than likely will be happening, in your backyard....and you will be alerted! By reading the Bill, I cannot see where you will have a label that says anything about Aspartame, and it is amazing how many persons ARE allergic, severely allergic like you! Calorie reduced...Tells you Nothing!
THere was a huge uproar over Mayor Bloomberg limiting the Super-Size Soft drinks, and this one, way MORE significant to one's health, is being slipped thru the back door!
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
5 Mar 13
I don't think that it is a wise idea to completely make use Aspartame as replacement for sugar. Although what they can do is to have another variant of their products and properly label it as having ASPARTAME.
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
5 Mar 13
Same kinda thing here in Mexico. Now come reports that some milks have more water than they are supposed to have in them. Very sad...
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
That is dispicable...that is blind robbery! Do these people have NO conscience...robbing a child of nutrition, just for money! Makes me very mad...as if we want to have watered down milk, we can do that ourselves..but don't sell me a product that is short-thrift!
I must admit tho, clean water is a little kinder that dumping a load of chemicals in your Dairy, and you are not made aware of these chemicals. Aspartame, so widely used as a sweetener, can have dire side effects on some people so it should be LABELLED properly! This makes my blood boil, and I hope the U.S. rallies!
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
28 Mar 13
I have never heard this one yet. I would think if they are really going to do this without listing ingredients, can't they get in trouble? I have heard it is illegal now to not list ingredients for what you might consider wanting to eat for the day. But wouldn't people know what it is, because they find the items where those type of items are sold.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
4 Mar 13
That's taking the "nanny state" to new heights! I cannot imagine that they would get away with it but wouldn't be surprised if they did. They are working very hard to take the care of children out of the hands of parents, although why parents just can't say no to flavored milk is beyond me.
If it happens I hope it gets a lot of publicity and there is a flurry of lawsuits.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
5 Mar 13
My point exactly...full disclosure LABEL (and not in such fine print we all need to carry a magnifying glass) so that we can choose whether we want to add any more chemicals to our diet!
I also find it very interesting...Aspartame was only approved for human consumption after it was bought by "Monsanto -- BIG oil" and rammed the bill thru.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
4 Mar 13
This is just not on. I am glad that it is still in the petition stage and hasn't been made law. Aspartame is not a good thing to ut in daity products at all. But it can't happen as I am sure the people will speak out and be heard by government. At least - I hope so
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
Morning, cynthiann...at least for me!
I am SOOOO agrieved by this underhanded FRAUD! Angry enough I could chew up nails, right now....DAIRY, I have always thought is one of the few consumptives that would NOT be tampered with...and if it was, each would have the RIGHT to know what is in their product!
And this is the reason that I am bringing this to the forefront..it is quietly before the FDA right now, and the application specifically states they do not have to label the fact that aspartame is the non-nutritive calories!
My fear is if the U.S. secretly passes this...Canada will follow suit!
@checkmail (2039)
• India
4 Mar 13
Hello pergammano this is checkmail and do think all edible products should be spared form chemicals and added flavor which require certain chemicals.Even few of preservative class chemicals should be banned as food seems to be fresh despite its been wasted.And in milk mine, i just wonder how would it result in upcoming future, as milk is our basic diet form early childhood till older ages.
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
4 Mar 13
My biggest issue here, is that it is another bill being passed on the sly...a product that we all rely on...and WE MUST demand the right to know what we are consuming!
There are MANY health issues attached the chemical aspartame!
The FDA is trying to ram this thru...without you being aware!
@much2say (55664)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Mar 13
Hi pergammano!
Bad, bad, bad - hogwash, like you said. If the dairy industry feels a responsible to society to reduce childhood obesity, well first they also need to be responsible in telling us what exactly is in their product. Why is there a need to sneak in an artificial ingredient (now would it REALLY help - that's another discussion altogether). . . really it seems it's a way to trick people into thinking "see, cow milk is a natural product keep people slim" . . . but most likely it will host another set of health problems. If only people could be more educated about better choices in their diet . . . but if people are misled about even dairy, they would never have a chance in the first place.
We never buy flavored milks and are now trying to get away from pre-flavored yogurts.
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