When a woman says "Do whatever you want", do NOT do whatever you want.

That's it. That's also what happens to me. Even when I tell him about what I think nicely, he would only say yes but still do it anyway. And I know he would do it anyway.

Most of us don't have things that easy! I wish! Lol. I wish he would not do something because I don't want him to... Lol, that is in a perfect world which does not exist.

Like you said, that world doesn't exist. I mean, if our men agree not doing anything that we don't want them to do, of course they would demand the same thing, right? And if that happens, how can we be so selfish by not doing what they wish?

Nope. But problem is...not all women really mean what they say.

And they think WE are unpredictable! Isn't it interesting?

I hate it when I said ok do whatever you want, this man will not do what ever he wants and he will tell me that I am just upset that's why I said it... "OMG! I told him to do it. then I am upset. that's the time when I will really get upset. they are unpredictable.. LOL

Of course! Each one is unique!I just don't understand why a woman would say the complete opposite of what she is feeling. I see it as a form of lying.My guy wants my happiness as much as I want his. the main way to be happy is being comfortable enough to say what you mean and mean what you say.I'm his girl Not his mother. I would Never tell him what he can and cannot do.I would say I'll worry or be careful but that is it.

Oh me neither! I would never tell him he can't do something just because I don't like it! I would only like giving him the second opinion. You know...like "what if you this or that" but then when he keeps on defending his idea, I would say something like "okay, try it". With a smile, of course.

We won't be able to stop them anyway. Slowing down, yes. But stop, no. Am I right here? However, Mavic there also said when she said "do whatever you want", she really means it. However, her partner would say that it means she's upset. Men are just interesting, right?

Agree , if the guy respect the girl he would not willingly try to upset his girl . I just think some woman are just used to be treating those way so they simple dont care .

I agree with Aja. I often say "up to you" only when I don't have the mood to quarrel. And that is when he would calm down and maybe think about it for a while. Maybe it's because he knows that is when I'm really angry.

If women are not ready for the consequences of saying this, they should not say the line at all. Good men won't do anything bad even if we are not there to scold them.

And you're so welcome for sharing! Your opinion represents all husbands in the world! And I think only married couples really understand what the line means. Because it won't really work for boyfriend-girlfriend or those who are still engaged. I'm just saying.

Heheheheh...but not all men can really accept that they're wrong even if they have got the prove. My boyfriend is one of them. When he finally knows that I'm right and he's wrong, he won't say "yes, you're right". He would just say "I'm wrong".

That's right,MissPiggy,that's the tendency of all males,be they married or unmarried.I know myself.Accepting that I was wrong is something I hesitate to do until I am completely cornered.

Maybe both of you need to discuss stuff? Because I think a wife must listen to the husband. And why did you choose crying smiley for your avatar? It seems like you're sad all the time!

Well, some of still have this childish attitude, right? I'm the youngest daughter in the family, so I think no matter how old I am, I'll always be the little girl in the family and that makes me spoiled sometimes. For your email, heheheh...maybe you should write it down this time?

but my wife attitude is what she like, she do and sometimes same at me LOL i think it was cool to have an avatar like this which is a crying emoticons, but any way this is my 3rd account here for some reason that i forgot my 2nd account and can't access to the email that i used to sign up here same as in my 1st account so i made this 3rd account of mine and manage to go back here, maybe that is a second thing why i choose my avatar

That means both people don't want to try to make the relationship work out. Actually the lines must not only be said, it must be followed by a discussion instead. Right? What if what's the man doing is right? Of course he must still do it anyway, right? But for that, he must explain it to the woman. And sometimes, this "explanation" doesn't exist in a man's dictionary.

And does it work? Does he always remember to put the toilet seat down? By the way, as I think it over again, the line seems to come out mostly from my dad's mouth instead of my mom's. So I think, everything depends on the person, am I right?

I don't think this "IQ and EQ" would be acceptable for everyone. However, I agree with "the woman to be clear with what she wants". Only one problem, sometimes men won't understand if we're clear as well because that means we'll talk a lot and most men are not good listeners.

That's good!

I agree. If someone really wants to use the line, it will only work for three or four times, other than that, it won't work at all.

Like you said, it's not easy. Even for us girls to understand guys. However, if we want to make a relationship works, understanding is a must. It's not always satisfying, however, but just like you said (again), it is something you have to do.

Unless the guy is too quiet. My guy can be so quiet but is so busy in his mind.

Thats how my fiance is , he is an adult with free will but he dont like to be the one that make me upset that is why I love him so much . Its always better when your guy try convince you than go and do the thing that upset you . The guys that it work on really consider their girl feelings . If you dont care do what you want !!

I think everything still depends on whether our reasons are logic or not. If they can accept the reason we give them because it seems logic to them, I'm sure they'll listen. Just like Demonic said it's 9 out of 10, so it means that sometimes the "one" reason doesn't sound logic to them. That's how it works. Men are men. I think every woman's man is just like that. And Silver, I'm sure if your fiance has tried so hard not to upset you, I bet you would do the same right? Because everything must be in balance.

That's it. I think it's more like they need our support. And if we don't give the support they need, then this "let's talk about it" would come out. But I'm sure this "talk" won't work for so long as if they can convince us, we would be the one who finally support them and if they get convinced, they would stop for us...at that time only.

So it still depends on whether his logic can accept it or not, right? And I think after you get married, a husband can understand his wife's opinion better than before they get married. Am I correct?

I'm sorry, I didn't get what you mean. Could you explain it to me? I mean why were you always wrong afterwards everytime you said it?

Managing a relationship is indeed challenging, but it is not difficult if you both work together to make it work. Any problems can be solved, only it depends on how big is your willing to solve it. Sometimes when we say "up to you" doesn't mean we lose the argument. It means we just don't want to argue anymore. Arguing is useless, especially for couples. We need solution, not argument. If we keep on arguing, it means both of us do not want to solve the problem. Saying the line for the man who understands, actually would only be able to stop them the moment a woman says it. But then there is this word "discussion". That's when we can talk about why we (the woman) do not want them (the man) to do it. And this is also the time when they (the man) want to do the things they want to do and give us (the woman) the perfect reason so that we would finally let them do it and support them.