Let them make profits, it will trickle down

Blogs? The New York Times? Anyway, I will believe things are better with jobs when my unemployed friends find one.

I was referring to all the huffington post and thinkprogress articles you posted, not the one New York Times article. Neither of those blogs has any credibility. The New York Times is a short step up from blogs, but on roughly the same level as MSNBC as a propaganda wing for the Obama White House. The real problem with all these regulations isn't what they do to big business. It's what they do to small businesses. The Walmarts and Starbucks of America have the money, lawyers, and experts to help them comply with, or get around government regulations. Joe Schmo running a small computer shop doesn't have those resources and all it takes to shut him down is one government agent stating that he failed to cross a T on one of his forms. Most big businesses had the resources to weather the recession and come out ahead. Small businesses did not which is why unemployment is still stagnant. Those big businesses are still hiring and their profits are still trickling down. They just aren't creating as many jobs as were lost when their small business competitors closed up shop.

Well I agree that small businesses are being hurt. As for big businesses hiring, the large company that laid off me and a lot of other people sure isn't doing as much hiring as it's cutting.

Even if a company does absolutely nothing, but put it in a bank account, that still helps people. It gives the banks more capital to make loans, creates jobs for bankers, tellers, etc. and any big business reinvests money in the company to open new locations, thus creating new jobs. Every time a big evil Walmart pops up there's going to be plenty of new jobs there.

I say if they were investing it back there would be more jobs.

A company can also invest to replace men by machines. And don't tell me that there is a man behind every machine.

Wages are powered a lot by the supply and demand. A high demand field with a low level applicants will get a higher wage than a job were there are literally thousands of applicants and not much demand. Wages are down because right now, there is a huge influx of applicants and not a lot of jobs to go around. When the Government gets off of its butt and puts some certainty back in the market that will change.

Never said there was anything wrong with making a profit. I do believe that these companies that say "let us make a profit and the money will trickle back down" are mostly lying.

Yes, they aren't throwing enough of it back. Wages haven't grown as fast as expenses for most middle and lower class people, and it's hard to survive, while at the same time, the huge corporations are walking off with record profits. Wall street got a bailout, and who is going to bail out the middle class people who lost their jobs, their homes, etc.

Because most companies are making their products overseas for cheaper labor/benefit costs without the added cost of regulations. Case in point, Apple.

Then they aren't suffering an undue burden. They have found a way around it.

If they are suffering such an undue burden, why the record profits?

The sequester is not taking the money, the government is taking your money through taxes. Former Speaker Pelosi said that taxes are a positive way of spending and is good for the economy and that tax cuts are taking money from the government. This lady does not understand that it is not the government money thay are taking it from the people by force.

I fear that you are right.

The threat of force, more like. Force only comes in to play if you refuse to pay...

The big stores have such an advantage with being able to negotiate lower prices due to bulk purchasing that it's really hard for small businesses to compete. You can't blame people with limited money for shopping for lower prices, but at the same time it hurts small business owners.

Yup. I read an article about small businesses coming back, people supporting them in their communities. I hope it's true.

yes they do, hard for the small markets here in mx to compete with walmart. Same kind a thing in the usa.

yup very sad they can agree on this but they send jets and money to Eygpt and Isreal

One side dug their heels in, and nobody came to an agreement. Sad.

For one thing, when the authorities take huge campaign contributions from corporations, how can they be impartial? Yes, where are the jobs?

I hope more jobs are created, but Ifear they won't be.

Me too. Hope so though.

I agree, there should be full disclosure. It's a catch 22. A business acts unethically. There is an attempt to regulate them to prevent that. both sides come up with a "solution" that is cumbersome and expensive. businesses go elsewhere, cut people or shutdown. but if they had self regulated in the first place, they wouldn't have been forced to deal with all the regulations in the first place.

Well yes. If we humans were all perfect and never did anything wrong... amazingly life would be better. Business is full of people. People do wrong things. I would suggest to you that the regulation of the market will correct that better than government. Enron was brought down by the market. The market found out Enron was faking stuff. The market refused to loan them anymore money. The market ended the Enron deal. Government only cleaned up the mess after the market figured it out. Similarly, Bernie Madoff was brought down by the market. The government didn't show up and figure it out. The market kept investigating, kept looking at the numbers and finding the problems. I know you'll find this crazy, but this is why I support no regulations. Imagine if you are a business person. You have no regulations. How do you make more money? By making a better product, more products, or cheaper products. So where do you spend your money? On products, by hiring more people to make them, or design them, or market them. Now imagine if you were a business person with tons of regulations. How do you make more money? By changing the regulations to benefit you. So where are you spend your money? On lobbyists, and congressmen, and PACs and soliciting support for your regulations. Dupont spent millions to get R-12 refrigerant banned in the name of saving the environment. In reality, the patent for R-12 refrigerant had expired, and dozens of companies were making the R-12 and selling it for a lower price. Dupont had R-134a, which is both less effective coolant, and more expensive, and more importantly patented exclusively by Dupont. Regulations make rich people richer, and always have. Why do you think so many businesses are spending money to overturn Obama Care? Because that regulation is costly. It's more effective to spend money hiring lobbyists to over turn that, than to invest in engineers and workers to make products.

I think the Supreme court needs to overturn Citizen's United, but I rather doubt that is going to happen.

did I detect a wee touch of sarcasm?

they are pummeling me :D

I read (sarcasm alert) in your title, but there is no sarcasm in the first phrase : it is interesting and you are brave to have started it.

The point being that large companies are making huge profits, but it is not turning the unemployment situation around (quickly enough) in this country.