…how to say it
By jeanneyvonne
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
Philippines
March 15, 2013 5:54am CST
Any suggestion to how to say your ‘writer’s articles are crap’ indirectly, in a very nice way and without costing me my position?
I love my boss and my current job but the articles (from the writer’s point of view) I’m forced to submit and publish are really not great. Hence, this dilemna.
3 responses
@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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15 Mar 13
I'm not sure what you're trying to say...
Are you editing and correcting someone else's work that's crap or are you producing work on crap subjects?
If it's the former, I'd just say it. Employers love a bit of honesty. I recently told a long-term client that his writer sucked and was impossible to correct without totally rewriting and costing him a ton of money. He fired the writer and found someone better through me, so everybody wins except the old crappy writer.
If it's the latter, I'd just say it. There's no point producing rubbish just to get paid. Employers love honesty there, too: producing rubbish means rubbish traffic and his site(s) will always be rubbish.
Of course, if you're worried about losing the job, you might want to start by popping him an email that says "I have some constructive feedback for you. Would you like the blunt version or the polite version?" and go from there. 99% guaranteed he'll ask for the blunt version.
@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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15 Mar 13
Oh, one more (important) thing I forgot: when you tell him, offer a solution. Never just complain. Always have a suggestion of how to fix it. Otherwise you're just whining and not helping.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
15 Mar 13
Hi Spike.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. It’s actually the first one. I am having a real conflict over this because I do write for the web but my position current puts me in the somewhat awkward position. In this position, my only job as far as the articles are concerned (and my current client) is minimal editing. Put some subheading, correct grammatical errors and fire it with an email. But I guess at the same time I am correcting grammatical errors, I might have changed the style and in my client’s own words ‘making too many edits’. It doesn’t help the fact that the English involved is Australian while I’m schooled in the American English and clients that I’m communicating to are US sites.
I don’t have anything personal about the writers. But reading their long sentences might irk the US client and probably not accept (more trouble for me to sell it to another one). I tried to tell the client to please use short sentences and even gave a link for web writing. No such luck. And don’t even mention the titles –most of the writer’s titles are hardly related to the content and yes, they are long. I don’t want to know what their credentials are.
I have given numerous tips and advice but I guess my client wants a different thing. I make too many edits (in his opinion and perhaps rewriting the whole thing) I get told. I kinda understand but I don’ want to be stuck with these articles. Sometimes, I just don’t want to care. If he wants no one to accept the articles because it’s hardly quality, it’s hardly my reputation and byline on the line.
Frankly, I have been honest about this. I just don’t know if he cares enough. I told him to get an independent editor if he doesn’t want me making the edits. Personally, he has crappy content, I just don’t know if he realizes it.
So in a sense, it’s like a cycle that never ends.
@ketanm (68)
• India
15 Mar 13
I think you should stop trying to improve your writers. It seems like you are banging your head on a wall. So why worry if you have already raised your opinion and no one is listening? If you are not in a position to influence, it will not happen. You need to find someone who agrees with you on this and is in a position to influence.
@fannekhan (783)
• India
25 Mar 13
It is tough. People don't accept their shortcomings easily and tend to get into an argument if you press further with suggestions and corrections. Recently I had suggested a content mill to a friend of mine who has occasionally made some money on line by offering consulatation services on line. He took it up. I cautioned him to be correct in Grammar and spellings. He was impatient and shot off his first article and in less than 24 h he was suspended. It meant that he could not write anymore for them. This guy was not ready to admit that he was a crappy writer and still holds a grudge against the content mill. If you can't withstand a honest feed back you may never succeed at writing.
@Aja103654 (5644)
• Philippines
15 Mar 13
Maybe you can suggest some ideas to improve the article? Then you can tell them that the article could be better. It is good but it could be better.